Ah youth... - Page 2

DrummerDeanna · #16 04-23-2007, 03:24 PM

Hey..my opinion is my opinion...I'm not "worked up" and there's no need for "holy christ"

I'm not changing my mind, kids should not have cell phones. Good grades or not...that's just MY opinion. Deal.

Johnny Stew · #17 04-23-2007, 03:35 PM

When I was young (where did I put my false teeth and my hearing aid?), you used to see PARENTS with their kids. Now you see kids walking around by themselves with just a cell-phone.
TVs and computers shouldn't be used as babysitters, and cell-phones shouldn't be used as a parental surrogate.

If giving them a cell-phone makes a parent feel better about their child's safety, it should be one of the "kid-friendly" phones with limits on who they can call and who can call them. There's no reason they need text messaging, photo-taking and video-capturing abilities, etc.

carrie721 · #18 04-23-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

When I was young (where did I put my false teeth and my hearing aid?), you used to see PARENTS with their kids. Now you see kids walking around by themselves with just a cell-phone.
TVs and computers shouldn't be used as babysitters, and cell-phones shouldn't be used as a parental surrogate.

If giving them a cell-phone makes a parent feel better about their child's safety, it should be one of the "kid-friendly" phones with limits on who they can call and who can call them. There's no reason they need text messaging, photo-taking and video-capturing abilities, etc.

so kids shouldn't have cameras either? wtf?

phones are not the problem. parents who give their kids a cell phone and don't watch them wouldn't be watching them anyway.

Johnny Stew · #19 04-23-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

so kids shouldn't have cameras either? wtf?

What I was saying is that they don't need camera-phones and all of the other bells and whistles. They just need to be able to call home in case of an emergency.
I had a camera when I was 13/14 and loved it. I just hated how long it took for that little bird to peck out the picture on a stone slab.

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Originally Posted by carrie721

phones are not the problem. parents who give their kids a cell phone and don't watch them wouldn't be watching them anyway.

I agree, the phones aren't inherently the problem... and I didn't say they were. The problem is technology being used and abused in lieu of good parenting.

AliceLover · #20 04-23-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Hey..my opinion is my opinion...I'm not "worked up" and there's no need for "holy christ"

I'm not changing my mind, kids should not have cell phones. Good grades or not...that's just MY opinion. Deal.

Nor is there a need for stereotyping.

DrummerDeanna · #21 04-23-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

so kids shouldn't have cameras either? wtf?

phones are not the problem. parents who give their kids a cell phone and don't watch them wouldn't be watching them anyway.

So recently there was a situation (I think it was in Colorado) in which some little middle school girl sent a nudie picture of herself to someone. With her cell phone..using her camera phone.

Well this picture, naturally, went out to hundreds of little middle school and some high school phones.

Just one example of how kids are just not responsible enough for this stuff. Granted, many college-aged people aren't either

But I do agree, Carrie, that ultimately it's the parents....

BUT I still think kids should not have phones

danax6 · #22 04-23-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

BUT I still think kids should not have phones

I agree. At least not up until a certain age, when they're responsible enough to use it wisely. I mean, sheesh, 8.000 texts a month?? I think I'd be braindead after that. Not to mention suffer from a severe case of RSI. (And really, what kind of subscriptions do you guys have there? 8.000 texts here would make me go bankrupt.)

I really do think that all these videogames and cell phones and what not else are a waste of childhood. Look at all of us here, we grew up without all that **** and we were fine. We didn't need a cell phone or a computer to keep us entertained, no, we climbed trees or went out on our bikes and played games and socialized. You know, we were kids.

danax6 · #23 04-23-2007, 04:03 PM

You know, we have to watch these kids, cherish their youth, otherwise this might one day turn into a real case scenario:

carrie721 · #24 04-23-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

I really do think that all these videogames and cell phones and what not else are a waste of childhood. Look at all of us here, we grew up without all that **** and we were fine. We didn't need a cell phone or a computer to keep us entertained, no, we climbed trees or went out on our bikes and played games and socialized. You know, we were kids.

i totally agree with this. i just don't like when people blame the technology. i had a nintendo when i was younger, and a computer. but i wasn't allowed to sit and play it for hours.

xdreamsunwindx · #25 04-23-2007, 04:11 PM

I've had a phone on and off ever since I was 14. Granted, each phone I had was a prepaid phone that I used for emergencies or long distance. They served their purpose - I could make a call if I needed to, and people knew where to reach me. Especially after I started going to shows by myself, and I needed to call my mom or whomever to pick me up afterwards.

I got my first phone with a monthly plan a few months ago, simply because I was sick of going to Wal Mart or wherever and buying phone cards. I pay the bills, and I never go over my call/text limits. I have T-Mobile with "My 5 Faves," so I put the people I talk to most in my top 5, I get free calls and texts to anyone on T-Mobile, and nights and weekends are free, so I make sure to budget everything wisely.

I love my phone, too. It's super cute and it's bright pink, so it's almost like another accessory. I love that it takes pictures and video. I was at a show the other night, and my camera ran out of room, so I took video on my phone. And my ringtones are super awesome. My phone is simply made of awesome.

foxyluva · #26 04-23-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

I agree. At least not up until a certain age, when they're responsible enough to use it wisely. I mean, sheesh, 8.000 texts a month?? I think I'd be braindead after that. Not to mention suffer from a severe case of RSI. (And really, what kind of subscriptions do you guys have there? 8.000 texts here would make me go bankrupt.)

I really do think that all these videogames and cell phones and what not else are a waste of childhood. Look at all of us here, we grew up without all that **** and we were fine. We didn't need a cell phone or a computer to keep us entertained, no, we climbed trees or went out on our bikes and played games and socialized. You know, we were kids.

Totally. I had a great child hood - I was outside playing with all my friends every day, because we were to poor to afford any those gadgets. Im so grateful for that, and I actually feel sorry for kids today who don't know how to go outside and have fun...

DrummerDeanna · #27 04-23-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by carrie721

i totally agree with this. i just don't like when people blame the technology. i had a nintendo when i was younger, and a computer. but i wasn't allowed to sit and play it for hours.

You mean you had rules and boundaries...oh you must have had cruel parents...

The Onion just had a hilarious article about how most kids today are "abused" citing kids who were made to wear ugly clothes or clean their rooms.

Anyway, I've already said I agree that it's ultimately the parents...because kids don't automatically come with responsibility and common sense. If a parent lets their kids sit all day and night on the computer or videogame system then yeah...that's a problem...and it's not really the kid's fault.

Of course, that brings me to another strong opinion, I don't think kids (until a certain age) should have complete access to computer (ie in their rooms).

Let THAT one fly....

It's not an issue though, since I really don't want kids at this point...if I ever had any...they'd be so deprived *evil laugh*

carrie721 · #28 04-23-2007, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Of course, that brings me to another strong opinion, I don't think kids (until a certain age) should have complete access to computer (ie in their rooms).

Let THAT one fly....

yeah, i agree. same with tv's. i got a tv for christmas when i was 14 and it got taken away until i was a senior

and i survived.

ryan8472 · #29 04-23-2007, 04:18 PM

I just feel that points about poor parenting are moot, especially since A) This girl's parents are obviously responsible ones, and B) none of the people who have responded to this thread besides Maria are parents, so who are they to judge one for giving their kid a cell phone. JMHO.

Johnny Stew · #30 04-23-2007, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472

none of the people who have responded to this thread besides Maria are parents, so who are they to judge one for giving their kid a cell phone. JMHO.

That's not true -- I'm Scary Spice's baby daddy.