Clooney Felt Suicidal

[jannieC]

It looks interesting- well, this part looks a little scary- "...but is interesting to note Styron's slightly patronizing tone as he describes for the reader the secrets that only those who have joined this exclusive group can know."

Anyway, famous or not, depression is an individual experience. What may seem like no big deal to one person could make another contemplate suicide. I'm happy he's able to express himself- many people don't have that luxury.

[David]

Originally Posted by jannieC

It looks interesting- well, this part looks a little scary- "...but is interesting to note Styron's slightly patronizing tone as he describes for the reader the secrets that only those who have joined this exclusive group can know."

If you can find it, get the audio cassette read by the author.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Cause the reason's listed don't seem like reasons to want to kill yourself. Be depressed, yes, but want to kill yourself? I mean, your grandmother and your dog die. Come on.

It's a disease that takes over your mind so it is no longer your own. My brother was suicidal over a breakup. This kind of attitude is exactly why people don't talk about their depression. Would you tell someone with a broken leg to walk it off?

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Would you tell someone with a broken leg to walk it off?

Yeah, probably.

[Für Elise]

Originally Posted by bikerchic

Cause the reason's listed don't seem like reasons to want to kill yourself. Be depressed, yes, but want to kill yourself? I mean, your grandmother and your dog die. Come on.

you don't need a big tragedy to have suicidal thoughts, you can't really apply logic and reason to such a state of mind.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Für Elise

you don't need a big tragedy to have suicidal thoughts, you can't really apply logic and reason to such a state of mind.

This is true, Confucious said if you try to mend the mind with the mind how can you avoid immense confusion?

[JazmenFlowers]

where does it say he was suicidal except in the tagline?

depression can effect anyone...some worse than others. it goes without saying that some take depression a LOT harder than others who are able to just shrug it off so no one can judge the degree of another person's depression and the extent to which it may impact his or her life.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

where does it say he was suicidal except in the tagline?

depression can effect anyone...some worse than others. it goes without saying that some take depression a LOT harder than others who are able to just shrug it off so no one can judge the degree of another person's depression and the extent to which it may impact his or her life.

I know - that was a horribly written article - in fact I'm still looking for where it says his suicidal thoughts were because of spinal fluid - or are we supposed to just assume that from the bit where he hits his head

So yeah - I was thinking the same thing - severly depressed and suicidal aren't necessarily the same thing and the article and quotes themselves never mention suicidal thoughts.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by DavidMn

I hear that brother!

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I still will never feel sorry for george clooney. If hes 44, and never been depressed before in his life, its like, well, welcome to the real world!

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

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I still will never feel sorry for george clooney. If hes 44, and never been depressed before in his life, its like, well, welcome to the real world!

Having sympathy for someone is completely different from feeling sorry for them.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Having sympathy for someone is completely different from feeling sorry for them.

but is it possible to have sympathy and feel sorry...for one's self? that's what I'd like to know.

I may be a medical mystery.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

but is it possible to have sympathy and feel sorry...for one's self? that's what I'd like to know.

I may be a medical mystery.

Pity has a helpless quality but sympathy is more giving of the heart without judgement, you know? If you are judging yourself too harshly then you might be depressed! We've now come full circle.

[Rickypt]

I didn't really *get* what depression was about until it happened to me. I was diagnosed with severe depression and had never had an episode before.

I wouldn't wish it on anyone; it is a horrible experience. Mine often kept me from being able to leave the house and even forced me to miss a Fleetwood Mac concert.

I don't really think it matters what the reasons are. It's a chemical imbalance and should be looked at more as a medical condition.

[bikerchic]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

I know - that was a horribly written article - in fact I'm still looking for where it says his suicidal thoughts were because of spinal fluid - or are we supposed to just assume that from the bit where he hits his head

So yeah - I was thinking the same thing - severly depressed and suicidal aren't necessarily the same thing and the article and quotes themselves never mention suicidal thoughts.

Exactly. That's what I was trying to say. I was responding to the article only. Obviously Mr. Clooney has some serious underlying issue's that are not discussed in the article of course. You're right Suze, I do not understand mental illness and hope that I never have too and I apologize if I offended anyone (again ). It just sounded like the dude wanted to kill himself cause his dog died and I know that is not the case.

[David]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Pity has a helpless quality but sympathy is more giving of the heart without judgement, you know? If you are judging yourself too harshly then you might be depressed! We've now come full circle.

Beauty without the beloved is like a sword through the heart.

--Rosetti