Israel seemingly massing troops toward Syria

[irishgrl]

Israel has been harrassed by its Arab neighbors ever since its inception. I for one sympathise with Israel and the Israelis who have had to endure CONSTANT bombings for decades. Where was the outrage from the World Community then?

Iran is (and always has been) unstable, its leaders (aside from the Shah) absolutely RABID about anything Western or Democratic. I know there have been small glimmerings of hope from a more "Western-friendly" faction, but those factions cant seem to gather enough support to be viable.

Tommer, you make good points as always--the high toll in civilian life is directly the fault of Hizbollah who use civilians as "shields" and deliberately mix with and hide among people who are no part of this mess. Thus the tragic loss of civilian lives. The only place I would (and have) disagree with you is that I think this will have no speedy end. Unfortunately.

[tommer]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

The only place I would (and have) disagree with you is that I think this will have no speedy end. Unfortunately.

yeah, you are right, it was supposed to end very rapidly, but everything got messed up, i'm just glad i'm outta here next week.

Originally Posted by tynan88

Isn't it true however that Israel just in the last few weeks recognised the 60th anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel by an Israeli terrorist group Irgun who were fighting for their cause for the foundation of Israel?
Although none of us may agree with the Syrian or Iranian cause or the cause of Hezbollah should we not at least be mindful of the fluid definitions we can attribute techniques such as terrorism or freedom fighting?

that's SO lame... you bring up an incident that happened over 60 years ago, and was heavily denounced even back then (not to mention that it didn't target civiliens to begin with...) in fact the definitions are pretty simple to me, fighting opposing armed forces is fair, while fighting civilians isn't.

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by tommer

yeah, you are right, it was supposed to end very rapidly, but everything got messed up, i'm just glad i'm outta here next week.

that's SO lame... you bring up an incident that happened over 60 years ago, and was heavily denounced even back then (not to mention that it didn't target civiliens to begin with...) in fact the definitions are pretty simple to me, fighting opposing armed forces is fair, while fighting civilians isn't.

Well thank you for clearing that up then

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Israel has been harrassed by its Arab neighbors ever since its inception. I for one sympathise with Israel and the Israelis who have had to endure CONSTANT bombings for decades. Where was the outrage from the World Community then? . . . .

You are always so one sided. Certainly you must concede Israel has far from clean hands and has been a bit of a bully itself though in this particular instance (which I assert cannot be seen in a vacuum) Israel is correct for retailiating to get its soldiers back.

In the end, part of me wants to put a huge fence around the Middle East and like some twisted Thunderdome - let them fight each other until there is a last man standing and then deal with them. But, that, of course, is inhumane. So, I guess the world will always be wagged by Israel and its neighbors - and that saddens and somewhat sickens me because I can see both sides and neither are IMO 100% correct and thus, the fighting (mostly inane IMO) will continue forever. But, if the English and Irish can somewhat reconcile as we have seen, maybe there is hope for the Middle East. Which one will blink first is the question though. Admittedly, Israel did close to a blink in the last five or so years and kudos to it for that.