Karen Walker

[Moony]

Karen is the only reason I can watch that show. Will, Grace, and Jack all annoy me to no end.

I love that woman. I wish I had a friend like her (well, perhaps not..)

[The Tower]

This is one of my favorite Karen exchanges:

KAREN: Hi, honey.

GRACE: What are you doing here?

KAREN: You invited me.

GRACE: Yeah, but I never thought you'd come. I figured you'd be spending the holiday with Stan and the kids.

KAREN: Wha--? No. Honey, your apartment looks good. I like what you've done with the place.

GRACE: Karen, I don't live here anymore, and you've been to my new place.

KAREN: Boy... you try to be nice...

GRACE: Hmmm. Well, you've come on a good night. Jack's mother is going to be joining us, and she doesn't know Jack's gay.

KAREN: How could she not know? What is she, headless?

GRACE: I guess you believe what you choose to believe. One time, Judith caught him in bed with a guy, and Jack convinced her that they were doing a school check for lice.

KAREN: Oh.

GRACE: And when she caught him wearing her high heels, he said it was because they helped him with an inner-ear problem.

KAREN: Ah.

GRACE: And he also told her that I am his ex-girlfriend.

KAREN: And she bought that?!?!

[amber]

Tribute joined. She's phenom.
Her and Will are my favorites.
I'm also the only person who has Will as a favorite, I think. They both have the most clever lines.
"oooh, honey, no. All I meant was, you're boring, and you have nothing to offer besides sex! Okay? Better?"

[goldie]

I love the episode where Grace needs some money to expand her business or something. Karen offers to lend her $$. But first she wants a presentation to understand Grace'e line of business. I can't remember the whole exchange, but it is hilarious! Karen says something like: "honey, I don't know what you DO ...."


Also, I used to love Grace, but she didn't seem like Grace so much anymore after she had a baby in real life...... She just looks a lot different now ... I think she gained weight? Which is all fine and normal and good, but it's not Grace. Just my two cents.

Also, I believe the very first episode of W&G has a Stevie reference?

[Livia]

*raises hand* LOVE KAREN!! ^^^ That pic Amber posted is drrrrop! Bruce and I call the show "Jack and Karen" instead, cuz they get all the best lines. I love when Karen hits on girls.

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by goldie

Also, I believe the very first episode of W&G has a Stevie reference?

there's lots of Stevie/FM references.

my favorite is when Will learns that both his mom and dad have lovers, he says "what? is my family now part of Fleetwood Mac?"

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

there's lots of Stevie/FM references.

my favorite is when Will learns that both his mom and dad have lovers, he says "what? is my family now part of Fleetwood Mac?"

Anything/anyone known for being a gay icon has been used in some way on Will & Grace..

From Judy and Liza to Barbra to Cher to Stevie to JLO..

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Anything/anyone known for being a gay icon has been used in some way on Will & Grace..

From Judy and Liza to Barbra to Cher to Stevie to JLO..

true true...

[Sorcerer386]

Actually the only Mac reference I've ever heard was the one Jason mentioned, although goes more like, "This is great, everybody's cheating on everybody, suddenly my parents are Fleetwood Mac!" I did miss the later episodes as I felt they lost a lot of the writing ability, but I've seen probably the first four seasons a hundred times (I watch it almost every day on Lifetime 12-1). I feel the show jumped the shark after Stan died, but one of the funniest scenes was when they were on the boat throwing Stan's ashes into the ocean. Will and Jack are inside singing along to Crocodile Rock while Karen and (can't remember Minnie Driver's character name) are fighting outside. Karen gets thrown overboard, and then Rosario swan dives off the boat after her. That was hysterical!

Anyway, yes, I love, love, LOVE Karen. I want a Karen in my life so that I have someone to "go buy me some happy." After Stan died they ruined her character by humanizing her. Plus, they dropped the always funny three-questions-in-a-row thing she did. "Honey, what's this, what's going on, who are you supposed to be?" I also love the line in the episode goldie mentioned, she says, "Oh honey, you have a dream. I had a dream once. It was to be rich and beautiful with a killer rack. Oh look! My dream came true!" "Well, you're all boring and I'm fun!" "Honey, get out of there, kids have been in there! You're swimming in a pit full of pink eye!" "What are you looking at preggo? Haven't you ever seen herpes before?" I could go on forever! Ah, yes, Karen Walker will be missed.

And by the way, I think I'm one of the only ones who likes all four characters. Not many people like Grace, but to me, she's pretty damn close to a modern day Lucy from I Love Lucy. Her cries, getting into "sticky" situations, etc.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Sorcerer386

Actually the only Mac reference I've ever heard was the one Jason mentioned....

In the pilot episode, in the very first scene, Will & Grace are chatting about a dress and Grace says something to the effect of, "It's too 'Stevie Nicks: The Heavy Years'."

[goldie]

A bit of a Will tribute:

I also liked the episodes when Patrick Dempsey was Will's boyfriend ....

I love the one with Kevin Bacon .... Will and him dancing ..classic.

Tonight on UPN or WB was the one where Sharon Stone was Will and Grace's therapist...

I LOVE Karen's three question thing!!!! I wish I could do that like her!

[diamondsnake]

Originally Posted by David

Ah.

I'm almost totally ignorant of anything that happens on commercial television. There are shows I'd like to see & would probably enjoy, but the constant commercial interruptions have driven me away permanently from ad-infested TV.

I'd recommend TV on DVD box sets. They are a lifesaver. No commericals, no week long cliff hangers. I enjoy watching TV shows much better on DVD...

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

In the pilot episode, in the very first scene, Will & Grace are chatting about a dress and Grace says something to the effect of, "It's too 'Stevie Nicks: The Heavy Years'."

ouch!

[Livia]

There was a slight Stevie reference in last night's episode - Karen pouring herself a stiff drink of Bombay Sapphire!