Like or Dislike: Two Kinds of Love

[skcin]

How the hell did Kenny G become so popular when it's apparent that he's sucky? Seriously. I can't stand the guy, I can't stand to hear his songs.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by skcin

How the hell did Kenny G become so popular when it's apparent that he's sucky?

Beats me. You could ask the same question about dozens of people at the top of the charts.

Really, though, there's a much bigger audience for ****ty smooth jazz than most people think.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Beats me. You could ask the same question about dozens of people at the top of the charts.

Really, though, there's a much bigger audience for ****ty smooth jazz than most people think.

I think people like to say "yeah, I love jazz" cuz they thnk they'll sound cool.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by skcin

I think people like to say "yeah, I love jazz" cuz they thnk they'll sound cool.

Sound cool to who, though? Most people who know nothing about jazz think it's stupid, and everybody who knows anything at all about jazz would beat to within an inch of his life anybody who dared utter the name "Kenny G" in their presence.

[David]

Originally Posted by skcin

True, but that would have entailed me actually thinking "it is a sax, right?" and then wondering if someone (David) would have corrected me & made me feel dumb with some comment like "well, it's specifically a suchandsuch sax..."

Where did I get this reputation for being an obnoxious pedant? Is it my own fault? Is it really justified?

Puzzling . . . .

[JazmenFlowers]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

I'll offer my thoughts . . .

are you ready for this? are you sitting down?

I think you're dead on here.

[Sahara]

"There are two kinds of love
To do the things that we do the best..."
are the only lines in this song that I think sound any good at all. The rest I'm happy to skip over.

One of the few OSOTM tracks I don't like. Her best albums are often a little hit and miss. This was one of the misses!

[SpyNote]

Originally Posted by David

Where did I get this reputation for being an obnoxious pedant? Is it my own fault? Is it really justified?

Puzzling . . . .

Well, I'm still quite intimidated by you. It must be all those big words!

Seriously, the forums don't anyone justice (except if you're Johnny Stew ). It's always better to meet in person, even if it's only a 30-second chat at a concert.

[David]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

Well, I'm still quite intimidated by you. It must be all those big words!

Seriously, the forums don't anyone justice (except if you're Johnny Stew ). It's always better to meet in person, even if it's only a 30-second chat at a concert.

Uh..you DID meet me, spynote! But apparently I made zilch impression because you don't remember it.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by David

Where did I get this reputation for being an obnoxious pedant? Is it my own fault? Is it really justified?

Puzzling . . . .

Oh, David, I'm playfully teasing you. You just happen to know lots of stuff that I don't.

[David]

Originally Posted by skcin

Oh, David, I'm playfully teasing you. You just happen to know lots of stuff that I don't.

I know nothing. Factoids do not wisdom make. Richness of the spirit, tenderness of the heart, fortitude of the bowel, the truly wise have all these things. Time taketh them not away. Physical beauty is passing, a transitory possession. Sic transit gloria mundi . . . thus goeth the glories of this world . . .

Come, let us pray.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by skcin

How the hell did Kenny G become so popular when it's apparent that he's sucky? Seriously. I can't stand the guy, I can't stand to hear his songs.

My father loves Kenny G. I don't think he owns all of the albums, but he sure seems to have a lot of 'em.

I hated ol' Kenny when Dad first started listening to him, and I hated him even more after 'Mirror.'
He was definitely like **** for awhile there... he was everywhere, and it all stunk to the high heavens.

I should add that the only Mac song my father really likes is "Tusk," because of the brass-band. The man loves horns!

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by SpyNote

Seriously, the forums don't anyone justice (except if you're Johnny Stew )....

I know it was a compliment (well, at least I'm pretty sure it was ), but I'm not sure what it meant.

[DashingDan]

The only redeeming thing about this song are the few live recordings, for two reasons:

1.) When she sings, "It's outrageous, that they live part..."

2.) The vocal breakdown (so cliché, but it works)

3.) Her lovely ending to the song to the chords of an acoustic guitar.

[David]

Originally Posted by takenbythesky

I agree with the general consensus that Kenny G.'s soprano sax playing greatly detracts from this song.

So how do you guys feel about the other songs Stevie recorded with Kenny G.? like Don't Treat Me Like a Stranger, Dial the Number & Tragedy of One's Own Soul? I love all of those. Romy, have you heard those three?

I have never quite understood the line, "Well the two of us...Widow and a Dove."

For some reason, back in 1989, I thought this whole song--& that phrase--was an indication that Stevie's dad had died (widow=Barbara & dove=Stevie). Then I got the tourbook that year at Cal Expo or wherever, & it says:

To Mother, who gives me the strength to go on. . .
To my Father, who said even in his darkest despair, that I had been a pleasure to him, from the day I was born. . .

& I thought for sure that clinches it--Stevie's dad had died & much of her pain on the album was pain over his loss. Isn't it weird how we develop our interpretations?

I hope you'll take my comments in the spirit in which they're offered--as discussion, as exchange of ideas--& not as browbeating or bullying.