You create the best album

[DavidMn]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Screw you guys, I'm making mine a two album set. There's simply no fully satisfying way to narrow it down any further (and even this still isn't as good as I'd like):

Black Magic Woman
Shake Your Moneymaker
Love That Burns
Dust My Broom
Oh Well
Man Of The World
Somebody's Gonna Get Their Head Kicked In Tonight
Station Man
Woman Of 1000 Years
Future Games
Sentimental Lady
Dust
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
The Derelict (for you, David)
Hypnotized
Come A Little Bit Closer
Miles Away
Why
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Over My Head
Rhiannon
Dreams
Go Your Own Way
You Make Loving Fun
Sara
Tusk
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Gypsy
Hold Me
Tango In The Night
Isn't It Midnight
In The Back Of My Mind
Talkin' To My Heart
Big Love (The Dance)
Silver Springs (The Dance)
Everybody Finds Out
Say Goodbye

Yeah youre probably right about the 2 cd thing.

[chiliD]

Ok, ok...I slaved & sweated over cutting it to one disc...but, now that the lid is off the kettle, I'd actually just make it a 10 disc box set.

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by gypsysoul

Hello
This is my first ever post on this board. I've enjoyed reading many of the old threads but haven't seen everything yet. So, sorry if this has been done before but:

If you had to create a Fleetwood mac album for someone who knew nothing about the band, which 3 tracks would you choose to best represent Lindsey, Christine and Stevie.
You can choose one bonus track that you love as the 10th song.

My choices are quite mainstream. you can make yours as adventurous as you like.

La Nicks
1. DREAMS (yes, it's over played and i get tired of it sometimes but it's the song that introduced me to FM and I love it. Haunting, ethereal, it's the essence of Stevie)

2. RHIANNON (this IS Stevie)

3. GYPSY (Stevie's heart and Liddy's guitar - brilliant combination)

The Buckmeister

1. GO YOUR OWN WAY ( Lindsey's rock classic for the ages)

2. TUSK (title track from his masterpiece album)

3. BIG LOVE (guitar god)

The songbird

1. YOU MAKE LOVING FUN (Perfect track, the essence of Christine)

2. DON'T STOP (classic. Again, yes it's overplayed but because it's great)

3. MYSTIFIED (I know it's co written with Lindsey but i love her vocal on this -golden throat)

Bonus - this was tough. Could change but for now I'm in a 'Bleed to love her ' mood.

Cool thread. The Rumours line-up is my favorite too, so I'd also choose songs from these particular songwriters .

Stevie: Rhiannon, Gold Dust Woman, Storms

Lindsey: Go Your Own Way, Tusk, Big Love (acoustic)

Christine: Think About Me, Songbird, You Make Loving Fun

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Screw you guys, I'm making mine a two album set. There's simply no fully satisfying way to narrow it down any further

Always the malcontent

[foxyluva]

I think giving them the chain boxset - plus a CD of tracks from Time, Dance & SYW would be a good overview

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I think giving them the chain boxset - plus a CD of tracks from Time, Dance & SYW would be a good overview

Well, I'll give you points for originality. I think you're the first person in the history of the universe to think that the Chain box set makes for a good overview of anything.

Makes a good gift for anyone in need of coasters, anyway.

[foxyluva]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

Well, I'll give you points for originality. I think you're the first person in the history of the universe to think that the Chain box set makes for a good overview of anything.

Makes a good gift for anyone in need of coasters, anyway.

I think that it is a great overview, probably too much 80's material - but still a great overview of the band.

Can I ask why people don't like it?

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I think that it is a great overview, probably too much 80's material - but still a great overview of the band.

Can I ask why people don't like it?

Well, for starters, the sequencing is beyond bizarre and awful; nobody can salvage any understanding of the band's history from this set.

Second, out of a total of 72 songs, a whopping 21 are devoted to the first seven years of the band's history, a period during which the band released nearly twice as many albums as they did in the period from 1975 through 1992, which is represented with 51 songs. And 10 of those 21 pre-1975 selections are Peter Green songs.

Bob Welch, who was a member and frontman of the band for over three years and five albums, is represented here with a total of three songs. Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan fare even worse, with two apiece. Meanwhile, Christine has 20, Lindsey 17, Stevie 15.

The albums Fleetwood Mac (1968), Kiln House, Future Games and Bare Trees are represented by one track each. Meanwhile, Rumours gets nine out eleven.

How can you really consider this to be a good overview of the band's history and music? It's so ridiculously skewed, it would be laughable if it weren't so honestly disappointing.

[Villavic]

I agree that limiting to those 3 songwriters does not explain entirely about Fleetwood Mac. But.. I will follow the game:

La Nicks
Gypsy
Landslide
Sara
sorry I left out Silver Springs, but it's not tthe landmark type song.


The Buckmeister
GO YOUR OWN WAY ( Lindsey's rock classic for the ages, I agree
TUSK
So Afraid or Tango in the night

Christine
YOU MAKE LOVING FUN
Everywhere
Songbird

TWO Bonus: THE CHAIN!!!!! and Farmers daughter

[gypsysoul]

Great choices everyone.

I actually want to change one of my own!
For Christine I think i'd rather have Say You Love me instead of 'You make loving fun'

(I only chose the Rumours crew because that is this section of the board but ofcourse you can widen it)

And thanks David Mn and sahara for welcoming me to the board. Nice to be here. It's a great board.

[David]

Originally Posted by foxyluva

I think that it is a great overview, probably too much 80's material - but still a great overview of the band.

Can I ask why people don't like it?

I don't like albums or collections that just give me what I already own. So I would have liked it better if it had been a bunch of things that I wasn't able to buy elsewhere.

That goes for the photos, too.

[DavidMn]

Well, I made up 2 cd's of my favorite songs awhile back, and I'm very happy with them. Here they are:


CD#1

1. Albatross
2. Oh Well(from the live at the bbc cd)
3. Hypnotized
4. Landslide
5. The Chain
6. Gold Dust Woman
7. Dreams
8. Never Going Back Again
9. Songbird
10. Sara
11. Walk A Thin Line
12. Over And Over
13. I Know I'm Not Wrong
14. Think About Me
15. Angel(Stevie)
16. Gypsy
17. Everywhere
18. Steal Your Heart Away
19. Illume
20. Love Minus Zero/No Limit

CD#2

1. Fleetwood Mac
2. Green Manalishi
3. Man Of The World
4. Woman Of 1000 Years
5. The Way I Feel
6. Why
7. Coming Home
8. Safe Harbour
9. Warm Ways
10. Say You Love Me
11. Over My Head
12. Oh Daddy
13. I Don't Want To Know
14. Save Me A Place
15. Never Make Me Cry
16. Beautiful Child
17. Brown Eyes
18. Big Love(The Dance)
19. Isn't It Midnight
20. Throwndown
21. Peacekeeper

[cliffdweller]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

How can you really consider this to be a good overview of the band's history and music?

It isn't really. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you might also be working under the assumption that most Fleetwood Mac fans would WANT a large quantity of pre-Rumours line-up material on a F.M. boxed set, which I don't think is the case. And I'm assuming that it's mostly fans that would buy a F.M. boxed set. If we're talking casual fans buying the boxed set, (if in fact they WOULD buy it) I'm sure they couldn't care less about pre-Buckingham/Nicks F.M. So with that in mind, and assuming my first statement is correct, the amount of pre-Rumours line-up material on the boxed set is plenty; it's a good enough overview, if not perfect. I mean, they can't release an 8 disc boxed set now can they? It would be nice, but forget about it.

Anyway, and I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you (Chilli, Jyqm, etc), but I NEVER listen to the pre-Rumours lineup disc in The Chain boxed set. In fact, I think I've only listened to it once, and that's when I first bought it. I'm only mildly interested in pre-Rumours line-ups, so the boxed set, as it is, suits me just fine where that's concerned. I do agree that the running order is **** and I also think that they should have included a few more live versions of songs, and maybe BETTER live versions...I'm not too crazy about the version of Stand Back that's on there, seems like they could have chosen a better performance. But all in all, the boxed set isn't that bad. I enjoy it.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by cliffdweller

It isn't really. But I think you are also working under the assumption that most Fleetwood Mac fans WANT a large quantity of pre-Rumours line-up material on a F.M. boxed set, which I don't think is the case.

But we weren't talking about what most people might want, we were talking about whether or not the box set is a good overview of the band's history. It's not. It's not even a good overview of the 1975-1992 period. It's just a terrible set.

And I'm assuming that it's mostly fans that would buy a F.M. boxed set. If we're talking casual fans buying the boxed set, (if in fact they WOULD buy it) I'm sure they couldn't care less about pre-Buckingham/Nicks F.M.

Casual fans tend not to buy box sets, period. The only people who really buy box sets are people who know almost nothing about an artist and want a good introduction, or (usually much more likely) die-hard fans. Of course, there are two very different types of box sets to be marketed to each of those groups. The former are going to want something that gives them a good overview of the artist's catalogue and most important music (for example: Johnny Cash, The Legend); the latter are going to want something that gives them music that they don't already have (for example: Johnny Cash, Unearthed). The Chain tries lazily to have it both ways on this front - juxtaposing hits with a handful of unreleased tracks and barely-different alternate versions of released songs - and fails miserably.

That aside, the claim that people don't want pre-1975 Mac simply isn't true, at least insofar as it pertains to the Peter Green era of the band. The fact that record companies keep releasing and re-releasing so much material from this period proves that there is a very solid market out there for it.

Of course, the conflict of interest tends to come in combining the different eras of the band, because obviously there are people who are fans of some incarnations and not others. My response to that would be, if Fleetwood Mac really wanted to offer a good career-spanning retrospective, then release four individual discs (something like 1967-1970, 1970-1974, 1975-1982, 1987-present) at normal prices, along with a box set of all four at a discounted price. That way you could pick and choose if you wanted, or get the whole package. But that's all moot anyway, since I don't see anything like this ever happening, especially since The Very Best was released so recently and is a pretty decent overview of the 1975-1987 (+ 1997) period. (Really, I think the only thing keeping that set from being very good is the "What was the point?" inclusion of the last four songs: "As Long As you Follow," "No Questions Asked," "Skies The Limit" and "Paper Doll." They simply don't fit with the rest of what's on there, and they seem ingloriously tacked on to the end merely to fill space. Including stuff like "Fireflies" or "Eyes Of The World" or "I Know I'm Not Wrong" or "Isn't It Midnight" would have made a lot more aesthetic sense.)

Anyway, and I know this isn't going to sit well with some of you (Chilli, Jyqm, etc), but I NEVER listen to the pre-Rumours lineup disc in The Chain boxed set. In fact, I think I've only listened to it once, and that's when I first bought it.

That sits fine with me. If you don't like Peter Green, you don't like Peter Green. I certainly would never demand that everybody like all the same music around here. I don't like everything Fleetwood Mac has ever done; I think Mr Wonderful, Penguin and Time are incredibly uneven albums, and I think Behind the Mask is downright terrible. The only thing I object to is when people pass off other incarnations of the bands as though they were unimportant or somehow lesser versions of Fleetwood Mac. (Or when they imply that "casual fans" have zero interest in other incarnations of the band. There are plenty of people who are "casual fans" of the Green years, and even the Welch years, although to a lesser extent.)

However, I would say that The Chain gives you such a terrible, paltry sampling of the post-Green, pre-Buckingham/Nicks years, that you really can't have a very informed opinion of whether you like much of that music or not, if that's all you've heard of it. And it's worth checking out if you have a chance.

[SortaSavageLike]

Originally Posted by Jyqm

But that's all moot anyway, since I don't see anything like this ever happening, especially since The Very Best was released so recently and is a pretty decent overview of the 1975-1987 (+ 1997) period. (Really, I think the only thing keeping that set from being very good is the "What was the point?" inclusion of the last four songs: "As Long As you Follow," "No Questions Asked," "Skies The Limit" and "Paper Doll." They simply don't fit with the rest of what's on there, and they seem ingloriously tacked on to the end merely to fill space. Including stuff like "Fireflies" or "Eyes Of The World" or "I Know I'm Not Wrong" or "Isn't It Midnight" would have made a lot more aesthetic sense.)

I can listen to VBOFM all the way through to Hold Me. After that, I skip everything except World Turning and Sisters of the Moon. Christine's songs after that are dull AC, Seven Wonders annoys me, No Questions Asked is annoying, bratty, and muddy (I swear, I've almost fallen asleep listening to it), Family Man is well, Family Man, and Paper Doll is catchy but instantly disposable. It's like they just pulled songs out of a hat. The first time I listened to Tusk I was like, "woah, why didn't they put more of these songs on that "best of" set?