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Red · #16 03-10-2006, 05:04 PM

Done.

I too could only read so much before becoming just too repulsed. How anyone can do such a thing is beyond me.

bikerchic · #17 03-10-2006, 06:12 PM

Thanks guys. As a Canadian, I am not only appalled by this inhuman, barbaric and unnecessary slaughter, but I am embarrassed. It's Canada's dirty little secret. It puts a permanent blood stain on this great country and it's a shame! How could any human being with half a conscience look into those little babies dark eye's and then club them over the head? The worst part is, the mother is witnessing the whole thing and you can hear her cries of desperation and helplessness.

catinthedark · #18 03-10-2006, 07:49 PM

i do not condone the seal hunt - i do not condone the killing of any wild animal other than for sustenance (ie. northern peoples who use every bit of the animals they kill). i will never understand why seals are clubbed to death. it is indeed barbaric.

however - one point should be made here about the canadian seal hunt: those soft, sweet, white coated baby seals, like the one pictured above, have not been hunted since 1987. the canadian government banned the hunt of the white coats after a huge uproar about the horrible clubbing practices.

if anyone is interested in reading more about it:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/sealhunt/

bikerchic · #19 03-10-2006, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark

i do not condone the seal hunt - i do not condone the killing of any wild animal other than for sustenance (ie. northern peoples who use every bit of the animals they kill). i will never understand why seals are clubbed to death. it is indeed barbaric.

however - one point should be made here about the canadian seal hunt: those soft, sweet, white coated baby seals, like the one pictured above, have not been hunted since 1987. the canadian government banned the hunt of the white coats after a huge uproar about the horrible clubbing practices.

if anyone is interested in reading more about it:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/sealhunt/

Somehow, I don't feel any better.

catinthedark · #20 03-10-2006, 09:37 PM

that's okay - and i understand. it wasn't meant to make you, or anyone, feel better. just to inform. as i said, i don't condone the hunt. but there is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about the hunt out there. ultimately, neither will help anyone.

GODDESS6 · #21 03-10-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bikerchic

To sign this petition and stop Canada's Massive Seal Hunt!

Click on "Contact the Prime Minister Now"

http://www.hsus.org/protect_seals.html

Thank you.

awwww, thanx for the link, i have always loved these little guys & what happens to them truly breaks my heart

~

#22 03-11-2006, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark

that's okay - and i understand. it wasn't meant to make you, or anyone, feel better. just to inform. as i said, i don't condone the hunt. but there is a lot of misunderstanding and misinformation about the hunt out there. ultimately, neither will help anyone.

Thanks Cat for posting that link..I feel everyone should be informed on all the facts too...I Hate the seal hunt and have gotten into many arguments with friends around here about it..But there is alot of misconceptions going round..First one..SIR Paul McCartney and his wife came for some Photo Ops on this and Doh.,.he didn;'t even know where he was..He thought he was in NewFoundland ,where the hunt is prevelant..But in fact he was only on Prince Edward Island..When the seals were barking at them..lol they both had this look of disgust and fright on their faces..Did not make for a good photo op..
It just doesn;t help the cause with these big celebs..when they are not informed better..

sasja · #23 03-11-2006, 08:01 AM

Signed and passed on to more forums I post at and to all my contacts in my mailbox.

That man will be INUNDATED with letters. He will know we are watching and judging and we'll keep at it till there's positive change

Sasja

catinthedark · #24 03-11-2006, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sasja

Signed and passed on to more forums I post at and to all my contacts in my mailbox.

That man will be INUNDATED with letters. He will know we are watching and judging and we'll keep at it till there's positive change

Sasja

but did you read the actual facts about the hunt? i fear it does more harm to bombard the canadian government with emails and petitions that aren't based in fact. the fact is: petitions and anger and protests have already stopped the hunt of the white coats. back in 1987. so it is a waste of time to be sending these petitions. read the facts and adjust your petitions and arguments in accordance. i think you'll have more of an impact that way.

catinthedark · #25 03-11-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonChilde

Thanks Cat for posting that link..I feel everyone should be informed on all the facts too...I Hate the seal hunt and have gotten into many arguments with friends around here about it..But there is alot of misconceptions going round..First one..SIR Paul McCartney and his wife came for some Photo Ops on this and Doh.,.he didn;'t even know where he was..He thought he was in NewFoundland ,where the hunt is prevelant..But in fact he was only on Prince Edward Island..When the seals were barking at them..lol they both had this look of disgust and fright on their faces..Did not make for a good photo op..
It just doesn;t help the cause with these big celebs..when they are not informed better..

thanks, jill. that whole photo op thing with mccartney was disgusting. they spewed so much fallacy in the time they were here. it's so frustrating because i do not support the hunt - yet i can't stand when people make statements and arguments against it without having a full understanding of it. get the facts - then form your opinions.

bikerchic · #26 03-11-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sasja

Signed and passed on to more forums I post at and to all my contacts in my mailbox.

That man will be INUNDATED with letters. He will know we are watching and judging and we'll keep at it till there's positive change

Sasja

Thanks, every little bit helps! Thank god for the McCartney's, bringing needed attention to this.

DavidMn · #27 03-11-2006, 03:52 PM

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Thanks, every little bit helps! Thank god for the McCartney's, bringing needed attention to this.

Yeah, they really stepped up to the plate.

amber · #28 03-11-2006, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by catinthedark

but did you read the actual facts about the hunt? i fear it does more harm to bombard the canadian government with emails and petitions that aren't based in fact. the fact is: petitions and anger and protests have already stopped the hunt of the white coats. back in 1987. so it is a waste of time to be sending these petitions. read the facts and adjust your petitions and arguments in accordance. i think you'll have more of an impact that way.

The petition doesn't mention the "white coats", it's talking about seals on the ice of Newfoundland and Labrador, and the hunt that goes on every year.
So, either the seals off Newfoundland and Labrador are not white coats, and are still hunted every year - or -
the seals off Newfoundland and Labrador are white coats, as you imply, and so the hunt of them has been stopped, like you say, and this entire petition is some kind of giant lie - which would be a waste of time.

So which is it? Are these white coats and they're not being killed at all off the coast of Newfoundland and Labrador, or are they not speaking of white coats, but about some seal that is hunted yearly at the end of March off Newfoundland and Labrador?

And also, they have commentary from the "grim opening of the 2005 hunt" - how did they get that if there was no 2005 hunt? I'm confused.

Here is a copy of the letter sent, in case you didn't read it.

"As the newly elected Prime Minister of Canada, you have an unparalleled opportunity to put an end to the cruel annual slaughter of more than 300,000 seals on the ice off Newfoundland and Labrador. The Canadian seal hunt, the largest commercial slaughter of marine mammals on the planet, targets baby seals as young as 12 days of age. A recent veterinary study showed that many of the seals were skinned while still alive and able to feel pain. This hunt must be stopped.

More and more, the citizens of the world are showing their opposition to the seal hunt, as the growing success of the Canadian seafood boycott and the recent bans on seal products in Greenland and Italy show. I urge you to make a firm commitment to do everything in your power to end this barbaric and economically unnecessary hunt as soon as possible.

Thank you for your time and consideration in this important matter."

bikerchic · #29 03-11-2006, 06:17 PM

^^ Amber, the hunt is for the harp seal, which is born with the white coat but sheds it's coat around 12 -14 days old. In 1987 they banned the hunt on the white coats, which only means they couldn't kill them until they shed their white coat. So, its the same seal but its coat has turned from white to grey, that's all. They claim they kill the pups anywhere from 25 days old to 3months old.

They now look like this when they club them.

#30 03-11-2006, 10:59 PM

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Yeah, they really stepped up to the plate.

Sorry David.but the McCartbey's did not help this cause at all..In fact they made a mess of things .They did not have all the facts and are so misinformed even about where the hunt is or where they were at making their stand..The seal hunt happens in Newfoundland ..THEY were in Quebec and Prince Edward Island. not even close to Newfounland! All they have done is to make theirselves look foolish and give more ammo to the ones who are killing these seals.and the surrounding communities.

This debate and petition has been ongoing for a long time..Sir John and wife really f%##ed up