Blue Letter - Mirage Tour 1982 - Page 2

Boots · #16 02-22-2006, 03:47 PM

I understand what you're saying, David. You can't be mad at someone and show it all the time. But we are not viewing every concert of every leg of the Mirage Tour - we are looking at one song, performed during a 2 night gig where one witness said that one night seemed uptight - whereas the other night was lovey dovey.

Basically - the times that I have happened to catch Fleetwood Mac in concert on video - I've never spotted any outward animosity. However, for this one show, I see a snide, pissed off look in LB's eyes - in Blue Letter only. To use your commentary - one can't always be in an angry white heat all the time. Yes. But this one time - some dissatisfaction, I feel, was showing.

Also - "distain" can be a derivative of anger - so I do not see your point there. Now we're splitting semantic hairs, which is getting us into the land of the silly. "Dissatisfaction" was just used by me as well - again - derivative of anger - animosity - resentment. It falls under the same umbrella. I only asked to see if people saw LB's glare. We're not splitting the atom here.

DavidMn · #17 02-22-2006, 03:51 PM

Well, from this layman's point of view, they were in such disarray at that time, so mistakes like that don't surprise me. Most(Not All) of the Mirage tour shows I have are not nearly as good as say Tusk, in my opinion anyway.

goldustsongbird · #18 02-22-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

That's a great general explanation, David. But, being in the audience for both nights of shows (and therefore the filming of the video), there WAS an obvious and definite "angry" vibe at one entire show....

That was the vibe I got, too! I wasn't there, but watching it, I picked up on it right away. Just look at The Chain, the way Stevie and Lindsey yell back at forth at each other-- YOU WILL NEVAHNEVAHNEVAH LOOOOVE ME AGAIN!

I know they sing/scream to each other on stage all the time, but the overall tone of the show seemed really... angsty, for lack of a better word. Definitely something.

Boots · #19 02-22-2006, 04:50 PM

Actually - I just saw that one - and yeah - they are singing to each other - with the usual passion - but I really don't see them seriously angry. It's the usual on stage drama during the song.

In "Blue Letter" - he seemed seriously disgusted.

**jbrownsjr** · #20 02-22-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers

thank you.

Stevie thanks you too. We bitches have to stick together.

the first time i saw her crouch over i was like

"no she didn't!"

danax6 · #21 02-22-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Boots

I only asked to see if people saw LB's glare. We're not splitting the atom here.

If you are talking about this moment:

Where he sings "I won't be waiting around for you" while turning his head away and almost appearing to be rolling his eyes, then yeah, I saw it.

Chester · #22 02-22-2006, 06:35 PM

Could be all the drugs and the atmosphere that the band created back then. They were much more agressive and hard than ever before or ever since. Playing music like that, especiallly while high, makes you look, well, agressive and hard! I dono't believe he was ticked at Stevie, just in the moment. Basically, ticked at everybody

**jbrownsjr** · #23 02-22-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6

If you are talking about this moment:

Where he sings "I won't be waiting around for you" while turning his head away and almost appearing to be rolling his eyes, then yeah, I saw it.

i have a DVD performance of a song I wrote and on film i look so serious... sort of like Christine's faces on The Dance... but in reality i'm concentrating on what i'm doing...

i think here he's just synching up with the other singers... don't see anger or anything else here

just my opinion

amber · #24 02-22-2006, 09:47 PM

No, he's irritated. Yep. Uh...they kind of sound crappy right then, the harmonies, maybe he's mad at her about that. They're also pretty loud compared to his voice, maybe he's mad about that.

It's not a full eye roll, but he was irritated.
That's one of my favorite singin' songs. The harmony.

Sorcerer386 · #25 02-23-2006, 01:37 AM

I can barely listen to this song on this concert anymore. This concert is where I actually got to know the song, but then I started listening to it on the White Album, and it's so much more up tempo on the White Album that when I listen to it on Mirage, it just drags. As for Lindsey reaction, you know, with the lyrics "I won't be waiting around for you," it seems to me more like a sarcastic/ironic reaction. Sort of like, "Wow, didn't THAT end up to be true." But I totally get the whole thing about sort of wanting to see moments where the band is in tension or whatever. I especially like right before Don't Stop on The Dance, Christine says "I've never done this with the brass section, so this should be interesting," and Stevie puts her head down and smiles like she's snickering. I always thought she was making fun of Christine at that point...

David · #26 02-23-2006, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

No, he's irritated. Yep. Uh...they kind of sound crappy right then, the harmonies, maybe he's mad at her about that. They're also pretty loud compared to his voice, maybe he's mad about that.

It's not a full eye roll, but he was irritated.

I ... I don't know what to say.

amber · #27 02-23-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I ... I don't know what to say.

You mock. "don't mock my smock or I'll clean your clock!"

and I agree that it seriously drags on Mirage, i way noticed that today. It was like Lindsey was in slomo (the way the camera follows us in slomo) or stuck in glue or something equally impossible in real life.

I don't look for tense moments, I didn't even notice that till I went back and studied today just for this thread. I'm so diligent. After all, I'm splitting the atom here! No time to lay/lie down on the job.

David · #28 02-23-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Boots

I understand what you're saying, David. You can't be mad at someone and show it all the time. But we are not viewing every concert of every leg of the Mirage Tour - we are looking at one song, performed during a 2 night gig where one witness said that one night seemed uptight - whereas the other night was lovey dovey.

Chili was smokin' weed that night! (He's gonna kill me)

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I see a snide, pissed off look in LB's eyes - in Blue Letter only. But this one time - some dissatisfaction, I feel, was showing.

But what was causing it, I'd like to know! I have a feeling it was the jackass down front.

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We're not splitting the atom here.

Never be ashamed of your observations. Stand tall, stand proud, & proclaim your experiences firmly & loudly & eloquently, for all of us to hear.

Do NOT be ashamed.

David · #29 02-23-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by amber

You mock. "don't mock my smock or I'll clean your clock!"

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and I agree that it seriously drags on Mirage, i way noticed that today. It was like Lindsey was in slomo (the way the camera follows us in slomo) or stuck in glue or something equally impossible in real life.

It did drag. You guys are right. It dragged the whole two months. But it was very cool & fast on the Tusk Tour, oddly enough.

amber · #30 02-23-2006, 01:50 AM

I see I've delighted you. Or else you were smoking a joint up front here. I am happy.

I wonder why it was so cool on TUSK tour? I bet because everyone was all fun and fairly new on the ol' coke train then, but by Mirage they were a bit strung out on the ol' cokeroo, probably malnourished, alcohol consumption higher than ever. I'm willing to bet they didn't consume any nutrients at all for a few years around there. Possibly not even much food. I'm just making things up because I can't think of any logical explanation. By that I mean the band couldn't possibly have thought it sounded better slower. Unless they were nimrods.