Cindy Sheehan arrested before SOTU

[dissention]

A hopeful society depends on courts that deliver equal justice under law. The Supreme Court now has two superb new members, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Sam Alito. I thank the Senate for confirming both of them.

This is why the Democrats will continue to be the minority party. With Bush thanking them, the average voter sees no difference between Dems and Repugs.

Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research -- human cloning in all its forms ... creating or implanting embryos for experiments ... creating human-animal hybrids ... and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos. Human life is a gift from our creator -- and that gift should never be discarded, devalued, or put up for sale.

Gotta love the way he threw in his creationism bull****.

A hopeful society comes to the aid of fellow citizens in times of suffering and emergency -- and stays at it until they are back on their feet.



Yeah, societies other than this one.

As we recover from a disaster, let us also work for the day when all Americans are protected by justice, equal in hope, and rich in opportunity.

I think I'll have the opportunity to breastfeed Gary Coleman before any of that happens.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

"The T-shirt bore the words “2,245 Dead — How Many More??” in reference to the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq, protesters told NBC News."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11120353/

Did they thrown her in the nearest wire cage? Er, um, I mean "Free Speech Zone."

[estranged4life]

MSNBC? Diane Feinstein is being interviewed at this moment.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by dissention

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Tonight I ask you to pass legislation to prohibit the most egregious abuses of medical research -- human cloning in all its forms ... creating or implanting embryos for experiments ... creating human-animal hybrids ... and buying, selling, or patenting human embryos. Human life is a gift from our creator -- and that gift should never be discarded, devalued, or put up for sale.

That did really jump out at me from the rest of the Bu****.Maybe some footage of the "Island of Dr. Moreau " got spliced with his Teleprompter cues.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by dissention

What the fukc was this "human-animal hybrid" business he was rambling about? He's been hitting the bottle.

Last year it was sterioids, now it's "human-animal hybrids."

what a "human-animal hybrid" looks like?????

Damn, that really is scary aint it???

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

"The T-shirt bore the words “2,245 Dead — How Many More??” in reference to the number of U.S. troops killed in Iraq, protesters told NBC News."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11120353/

Wow I forgot it was illegal to mention on a tshirt how many have died in a war--

[tynan88]

I found the speech poorly delivered and the applause from everyone in the room; democrat and republican alike really absolutely digusting.

Whoever decided to let that new governor give the reply speech; especially in the setting he did is an absolute moron, he looked and sounded uncomfortable and gave a limp-dick response to the most dangerous person in the world and letting him get away with it.

I don't think it is unreasonable to compare the democrats letting off Bush with Bush letting off Osama.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Yes, we, as Americans, are addicted to oil.

Omigod, I just realized that was a quote of his because Maddow just played it.

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I saw that headline and decided not to watch his blubbering speech.

I am just hearing this about Sheehan. I tried to watch that speech 5x and could not do it. I just kept thinking, "That's a lie." regarding every word coming out of his mouth. I just don't believe anything he says.

[strandinthewind]

Just out of curiosity - do you all really think any sitting President would have allowed that live wire in their SOU speech

Moreover, does anyone here really think she was going to sit there with her mouth shut and not heckle the Pres.?

If so - I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn

Finally, the idea of totally free speech at any place at any time is not based in the Const. or the 200+ years of American jurisprudence. The govt. clearly has and has had for well over 100+ years, the right to suppress speech when it feels it will cause danger, violence, etc. - moreover, the law allows protestors to be placed in an area that does not prohibit the functioning of an event. Actually, the whole body of law on this issue is rather fascinating and worth a read - http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/c...n/amendment01/

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Having said all of that - I think this lady is on a noble mission. I also respect her for what she has done and the awareness she has raised. On the other hand, she is in bed with some shady people who use her, though I often wonder if it is not she using them as she is rather clever.

I also would have loved to have seen her heckle W - who needs it desparately.

Finally, does anyone find it disconcerting that she was able to slip past and elude for a long time arguably the tightest security in the world

In the end, she came across to the general public, yet again, as ineffective and a stunt puller - which is sad.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I could only watch for a few seconds at a time.

Me too. I wanted to hurl at that Smirking Judas.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by dissention

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A hopeful society comes to the aid of fellow citizens in times of suffering and emergency -- and stays at it until they are back on their feet.

Except it is he who knocked us on our asses. Lying, smug, deluded, dumb bastard.

Three different people came up to Ed Shultz yesterday talking about the job market, or lack thereof, and how it is affecting them. He said it was random, the people just approached him to tell him what was going on. Yet this president has the juevos to stand up there and say how well the economy is doing. Shame shame shame on him.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

. . . Yet this president has the juevos to stand up there and say how well the economy is doing. Shame shame shame on him.

Statistics indicate the economy is recovering I mean I do not want to give any undue accolades to W, whom I despise, but facts are facts. I do think, however, that the number of jobs created has been far less than the economic recovery figures suggest should have been created. Thus, it is a relatively jobless (or lower rate new jobs) economic recovery.

Here are some sites:

http://www.jobwatch.org/

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/oped...ard_122203.htm

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature.../index_np.html

Again - I give no praise to W other than the facts indicate.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Statistics indicate the economy is recovering I mean I do not want to give any undue accolades to W, whom I despise, but facts are facts. I do think, however, that the number of jobs created has been far less than the economic recovery figures suggest should have been created. Thus, it is a relatively jobless (or lower rate new jobs) economic recovery.

Here are some sites:

http://www.jobwatch.org/

http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/oped...ard_122203.htm

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature.../index_np.html

Again - I give no praise to W other than the facts indicate.

Oh, I know, I know. I will take a look at these when I get a chance. Its just that average Americans are not benefitting. Salaries for middle class Americans have not incereased at all, on average, under this administration. Also, when inflation is taken into account, they have actually gone down a bit. Unions have declined. Millions have gone into poverty, etc. I'd like to see the economy actually improve, of course. I would love for him to be right on this one.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

Oh, I know, I know. I will take a look at these when I get a chance. Its just that average Americans are not benefitting. Salaries for middle class Americans have not incereased at all, on average, under this administration. Also, when inflation is taken into account, they have actually gone down a bit. Unions have declined. Millions have gone into poverty, etc. I'd like to see the economy actually improve, of course. I would love for him to be right on this one.

Oh darlin' I am right there with ya. I mean it is beyond me how Exxon/Mobile can have record breaking profits like that (I read somewere where the per person effect in the US was like free gas for everyone for a year ) - and no new jobs are being created. Thus, I conclude it is greed.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Oh darlin' I am right there with ya. I mean it is beyond me how Exxon/Mobile can have record breaking profits like that (I read somewere where the per person effect in the US was like free gas for everyone for a year ) - and no new jobs are being created. Thus, I conclude it is greed.

I know you are. They made $1,300 per second last quarter. They have the nerve not to help the poor with their heating costs. That is why MA is going to Valdez for cheaper oil.