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Old 10-24-2005, 02:18 PM
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Hows about that lovely piece of work who recently mentioned aborting black babies to lower the crime rate?
That is rank BS. Though he is pretty much a jerk, he was not advocating that and you know it. Yet, it makes good copy.

On edit - he was stupid to say it though because it was a silly example and surely he knew it would be taken out of context.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:21 PM
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No, and you know that. I am agreeing with him that the civil rights movement was a good thing, but it has become a weight around the neck of truly helping poor black people get out of that - people of both races abuse it, which is what I alluded to in my original post and what you ignored, to wit:

However, the problem is not just the complacent nature of some of the black community, which certainly exists. The problem is that the current system is not meant to help the poor get out of poverty to any significant degree. I am unsure how to remedy that though.
Yeah, I particularly loved how he lamented the lack of class in the gangsters today in comparison to the gangsters of yesteryear.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:22 PM
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Hows about that lovely piece of work who recently mentioned aborting black babies to lower the crime rate?
You know how much I'm obsessed over you...but that is a LIE!

That was a point made seriously by liberals, and attacked by right-wingers! It was an argument seriously stated in 2002 by two liberal economists...John Lott then saw that they had cooked the books.

SO IRONIC: Bill Bennett was citing a point made serious by liberals, in order to put it down...and he gets attacked for even mentioning it!
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Yeah, I particularly loved how he lamented the lack of class in the gangsters today in comparison to the gangsters of yesteryear.
Yep, that is exactly what I am agreeing with - boy you sure hit the nail on the head
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That is rank BS. Though he is pretty much a jerk, he was not advocating that and you know it. Yet, it makes good copy.

On edit - he was stupid to say it though because it was a silly example and surely he knew it would be taken out of context.
I never said he advocated it; he was speaking hypothetically. But you have to wonder about someone who even mentions aborting black babies to cut the crime rate. He said it's an "impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down".
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:25 PM
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And as Bill Maher said..."Bill Bennett was not advocating that all black babies be aborted...Barbara Bush is advocating that!"
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I never said he advocated it; he was speaking hypothetically. But you have to wonder about someone who even mentions aborting black babies to cut the crime rate. He said it's an "impossible, ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down".
Right...a point that WAS MADE BY LIBERALS!

Remember we are the "right-to-life" party. Not you guys...
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Right...a point that WAS MADE BY LIBERALS!
What's your point? It doesn't matter who says it, it's inappropriate. I love how you approve of his comments just because some "librals" may have said it, as if it's a perfectly fine thing to say. That's some pretty f*cked up logic.

And please post some references to back up your claims. Preferably not from Newsmax or The Heritage Foundation.

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Remember we are the "right-to-life" party. Not you guys...
And my aunt is Ann Miller.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:32 PM
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What's your point? It doesn't matter who says it, it's inappropriate. I love how you approve of his comments just because some "librals" may have said it, as if it's a perfectly fine thing to say. That's some pretty f*cked up logic.
Bennett was trying to shoot down that idea Josh! Don't you see that in that left-wing brain of yours? He only mentioned it...to show how nuts it is!

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What's your point? It doesn't matter who says it, it's inappropriate. I love how you approve of his comments just because some "librals" may have said it, as if it's a perfectly fine thing to say. That's some pretty f*cked up logic.
Well, he said it was not a fine thing He said it was morally reprehensible, etc. But, people are implying that he is a racist pig for even commenting on it, which I think is wrong though I think he is a jerk in general.

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No dear - I am more Ann Miller - tap tap tap
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Bennett was trying to shoot down that idea Josh! Don't you see that in that left-wing brain of yours? He only mentioned it...to show how nuts it is!
That must be why he qualified his statements with "But the crime rate would go down" after saying how reprehensible such a thing is.

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OH GOD! Rose.Gypsy?
Ever see that famous photo of people protesting war protesters in 2003? They called them morons but spelled morons incorrectly on their signs. F*cking numbnuts.
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That must be why he qualified his statements with "But the crime rate would go down" after saying how reprehensible such a thing is.
Context is the key dear.



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Ever see that famous photo of people protesting war protesters in 2003? They called them morons but spelled morons incorrectly on their signs. F*cking numbnuts.
Yea I'm sure every anti-anti-war protester has done that.

Have you ever SEEN anti-war protestors...FREAK SHOW! I'm sorry. But why must they all look like that. Check out my "Cindy Sheehan Can't Wait" thread.
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From the chancellor's office at North Carolina State University:

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Dr. Kamau Kambon's remarks have received widespread coverage on various websites, blogs and in the media. In some cases, it has been incorrectly reported that Kambon is an employee of NC State. Kambon sporadically taught at North Carolina State University on an as-needed basis. He has not been employed by the university since June 30, 2005. When I learned of his comments, I released the following statement:
The remarks recently attributed to one of our former employees do not in any way represent the values and standards of the university. This type of speech is counter to any reasoned discussion on the issue of race relations, and is absolutely unacceptable in the NC State community.

Thank you for your concern and email.

Sincerely,
Larry A. Nielsen
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And just a hint of media coverage here!
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...ral&id=3568175
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Very sad and unfortunate that a university professor, someone who should be intelligent and should be searching to find real solutions to the very real problem of racial inequality and discrimination that still exists in a lot of places in the US, would instead resort to such idiotic inflammatory rhetoric. If he's tenured, I'm sure he'll be relegated to the broom closet soon enough, though.
I absolutely agree with you.
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