Nights In Estoril - Page 2

chiliD · #16 10-05-2005, 10:02 AM

Can anybody specifically point out any differences in the songwriting between songs that Chris wrote alone and the ones that Eddy gets co-writing credit?

bretonbanquet · #17 10-05-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

Can anybody specifically point out any differences in the songwriting between songs that Chris wrote alone and the ones that Eddy gets co-writing credit?

I think that's an important point. The songs she wrote with Eddy don't seem to be particularly generic in any way, nor do they really differ specifically from her other work. Was Eddy a musician? Forgive my lack of familiarity with his life but I don't know much about him. Maybe he offered help with lyric ideas, or 'inspiration'.

macfan 57 · #18 10-05-2005, 10:22 AM

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I think that's an important point. The songs she wrote with Eddy don't seem to be particularly generic in any way, nor do they really differ specifically from her other work. Was Eddy a musician? Forgive my lack of familiarity with his life but I don't know much about him. Maybe he offered help with lyric ideas, or 'inspiration'.

I can't really tell any difference between her pre-Eddy songs & her songs with him credited as a co-writer. I've never actually heard her say what it was that he actually contributed to her songs. She only mentioned that he was very talented.

Eddy Quintela was a songwriter/keyboard player/engineer, at least that was how he was described in various articles when he first met Chris. Until he hooked up with her, I'd never heard of him. Since they divorced, he's pretty much disappeared.

DavidMn · #19 10-05-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57

I can't really tell any difference between her pre-Eddy songs & her songs with him credited as a co-writer. I've never actually heard her say what it was that he actually contributed to her songs. She only mentioned that he was very talented.

Eddy Quintela was a songwriter/keyboard player/engineer, at least that was how he was described in various articles when he first met Chris. Until he hooked up with her, I'd never heard of him. Since they divorced, he's pretty much disappeared.

When were they seperated? Like 3 years ago?

chiliD · #20 10-05-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidMn

When were they seperated? Like 3 years ago?

Not too long after The Dance, as I recall.

DavidMn · #21 10-05-2005, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

Not too long after The Dance, as I recall.

Oh ok. I thought it was more recently. Thank you for the info.

ragandbone · #22 10-05-2005, 01:57 PM

I love her voice on this song, and the melody, but nothing else about it stands out for me, with that dense and polished production. I would like to have heard some different instruments, perhaps a Portuguese Guitarra. Of course, then it owuldn't have fit with the rest of the album.

Anyway, her singing is really strong on this one.

My husband's family is from Estoril, but I don't suppose I will run into Christine there on the Praia.
The town of Cascais, just a little North of Estoril, is even more lovely!

***ThePenguin*** · #23 10-05-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

Can anybody specifically point out any differences in the songwriting between songs that Chris wrote alone and the ones that Eddy gets co-writing credit?

The difference is that in one case she keeps (and deserves) all the $, while in the other, she has to share it although she still probably deserves it all.

No, really-- I've heard from one of our Q&A guests (that i'm not sure I should name) that Eddy was good at taking others' ideas and working /w them, adding to them, etc--but wasn't as successful w/ actually coming up w/ ideas of his own.

-Lis

DavidMn · #24 10-05-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin

The difference is that in one case she keeps (and deserves) all the $, while in the other, she has to share it although she still probably deserves it all.

No, really-- I've heard from one of our Q&A guests (that i'm not sure I should name) that Eddy was good at taking others' ideas and working /w them, adding to them, etc--but wasn't as successful w/ actually coming up w/ ideas of his own.

-Lis

OOOH, mystery and intrigue. How interesting.....

GateandGarden · #25 10-05-2005, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ragandbone

My husband's family is from Estoril, but I don't suppose I will run into Christine there on the Praia.
The town of Cascais, just a little North of Estoril, is even more lovely!

Wow. You are so making me want to be somewhere else!

DavidMn · #26 10-05-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ragandbone

I love her voice on this song, and the melody, but nothing else about it stands out for me, with that dense and polished production. I would like to have heard some different instruments, perhaps a Portuguese Guitarra. Of course, then it owuldn't have fit with the rest of the album.

Anyway, her singing is really strong on this one.

My husband's family is from Estoril, but I don't suppose I will run into Christine there on the Praia.
The town of Cascais, just a little North of Estoril, is even more lovely!

I've never been to Portugal. I want to go someday for sure.

macfan 57 · #27 10-05-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin

No, really-- I've heard from one of our Q&A guests (that i'm not sure I should name) that Eddy was good at taking others' ideas and working /w them, adding to them, etc--but wasn't as successful w/ actually coming up w/ ideas of his own.

-Lis

I know you mentioned this before, but I didn't know that information came from one of the Q & A guests. Hmmm......

Richard B · #28 10-05-2005, 03:44 PM

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The town of Cascais, just a little North of Estoril, is even more lovely!

It sure is and also really is not normal Portuguese living either. It is for the very wealthy. On my recent trip, they named a street after Princess Diana there...she was in love with Cascais, which borders Estoril.

I have family in Portugal too. I love my country.

ragandbone · #29 10-05-2005, 04:28 PM

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It sure is and also really is not normal Portuguese living either. It is for the very wealthy.

Very true. In fact I think that is the case with quaint (used-to-be funky and fishy) coastal cities in the US as well. We didn't stay with the wealthy relatives - we camped near the Guincho.

I don't have many American friends who have gone to Portugal, but I know it has always been very popular for the British (they sure do love Port wine) and Germans. I'll bet C. McVie's song has brought even a few more British tourists down.

GypsySongbird · #30 10-09-2005, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh

I wonder how much input Mr Quintela had in this song? Lots of her songs since Tango in the Night had joint songwriting credits with him but I've always wondered how much he did contribute.

Great song. Along with Hollywood and Do it all over again it's my favourite from Time. She might not have wanted to record the album, she might have hated Dave Mason but she just can't help herself when it comes to songwriting - they're nearly always terrific.

Gail

she hated dave mason?? i didnt know that, what did she say about it?

and also has chris actually ever commented on her divorce from eddy? what has she said?

thanks folks!