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Old 09-29-2005, 12:23 PM
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She handled the wildebeast quite deftly. I caught about the last 10 minutes of it. I'm hoping they rerun it this weekend.
Wildebeast!

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Old 09-29-2005, 12:37 PM
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Ann is a sow. She almost never let's anyone finish speaking and when she does she smirks and then tells half truths or just lies.

For example, she fairly recently exclaimed the war in Iraq was going slendidly and could not understand why all the liberals were lying to the contrary. Then, Bill O'Reilly, who is hardly a liberal, corrected her and she just went on lying.

Though a google search will yield many more, here is an article I liekd on the two of them that is telling and factual:


Bill O’Reilly Takes on Ann Coulter
By Scott Spicciati Editor | Bill O'Reilly Watch
July 30, 2003

In a surprisingly different tone from Bill O’Reilly’s last interview with Ann Coulter when he told her, “It’s (Slander) a good book,” Coulter is finally put on the spot in a place where you’d think she would be safe--FOX NEWS Channel.

Bill O’Reilly, the self-proclaimed Independent, opined on two books last year that were released around the same time: Michael Moore’s “Stupid White Men” and Ann Coulter’s “Slander.” Moore is the liberal and Coulter is the conservative. Guess which book got the “biggest example of spin” award in an O’Reilly column? Moore of course. When Coulter appeared on the factor to promote a book that explains that conservatives don’t have a voice in the media, the conservative pundit was told by O’Reilly that her book is good. The spin award goes to Moore.

But the interview went a little different this time. Maybe even Bill O’Reilly knows when conservative rhetoric goes too far. This interview also exposes more of Coulter’s charming attitude that isn’t always evident in her columns. However, the interview also proves O’Reilly’s preference of attacking the Left when Coulter is just as extreme as any liberal, including Al Franken--who by the way is a comedian; not a politician. Here are a few highlights from Bill O’Reilly’s interview with Ann Coulter on July 22, 2003.

BILL O’REILLY: With us now is one of the most successful right-wing pundits, Ann Coulter, the author of the best-selling book, “Treason: Liberal Treachery From the Cold War to the War on Terrorism.”

All right. Your book's doing great, and it's doing better than your first book, and you have a very big following.

But I don't know why you're so vitriolic in your writing, and let me give the folks an example, if they haven't read your book. Kate Moss. You know this little waif, Kate Moss, this little model. She probably didn't even go to high school. Here's what you say about Kate Moss. This is unbelievable.

"Even model Kate Moss took time out from her drug habit to wrap her head around the war issue. Terrified that an attack on Iraq could lead to an attack on Colombia and dry up her supply, she was foursquare against the war." Now come on. I mean Kate Moss?

ANN COULTER: Well, that is one of the frivolous chapters. It's toward the end. I do cover the celebrities, and that's a chapter that really is just for laughs.

Here she has just admitted that part of her book can’t be taken seriously, saying they are “frivolous.” How reliable is a book with chapters that are “just for laughs” and similar to supermarket tabloids that “cover the celebrities?” Coulter also has no problems gloating over “Treason’s” success.

COULTER: You know, his (Frank Rich) book sold about six copies. Mine has sold 150,000 in the first three weeks.

O'REILLY: Look, there's no question that you have a following, but it's preaching to the choir.

COULTER: I don't think so any...

O'REILLY: You're not making any converts.

COULTER: ... more than you are.

Interesting how Coulter makes no specific references to whom she has converted. Now we move to a part of the debate where O’Reilly makes Coulter the lesser of two evils when she’s compared to comedian Al Franken.

O'REILLY: But I'm not debating what's in your book, all right. Although I disagree with some of it. You have a perfect right to say it, and you make a lucid case for it. Millions of people buy your book. I'm objecting to your method.

See, Al Franken is a vile human being, would you agree? He is. Would you agree?

COULTER: After seeing your exchange with him, yes, I would.

O'REILLY: All right. He's a vile human being. But he does almost what you do...

COULTER: No.

O'REILLY: ... in the sense that he hates all conservative and moderates. He hates them, all right. Now I don't think you hate them because I know you hang around with Maher.

By saying Coulter hangs around Bill Maher, a liberal, he makes the case that Coulter doesn’t hate all liberals the way Franken hates all conservatives. Does this mean Franken has no conservative friends? Apparently so, according to O’Reilly.

COULTER: No. No. For one thing, at this point, I'm funnier than Franken.

O'REILLY: Yes, you...

COULTER: He used to be funny.

O'REILLY: No, you've always been funnier than Franken. I'll give you that.

COULTER: Now he's just, you know, a bubbling cauldron of anger and hatred, especially toward you, I hear.

O'REILLY: Well, I threaten him because I see through him, I know what he is. But even the conservatives have said that your rhetoric is so over the top, you may be hurting your own cause.

COULTER: People have a lot of reasons to criticize other people. This is often what was done to McCarthy. I mean Eisenhower was worried -- had a lot of reasons to be worried about McCarthy. He -- McCarthy was more popular than Eisenhower.

O'REILLY: So you don't -- you're not going to concede a little bit that you might too over the top?

COULTER: Not in the least.

End of transcript.

There is a clear double standard in how O’Reilly treats public figures. If they’re on the left, they are either spin doctors (Moore) or vile human beings (Al Franken) But never has O’Reilly attacked any specific individual on the right. He says “people on the right” without ever naming names.

O’Reilly attacked Franken for his ruthless tactics, specifically for targeting Rush Limbaugh in his book, “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot.” But he never calls out Coulter for dedicating an entire book to President Clinton titled “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.” O’Reilly also never calls out Rush Limbaugh because he’s too busy going after Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Anyone who studies Coulter, whether it be a fan or critic knows that she flat-out dismisses any form of liberalism. But O’Reilly doesn’t think so because she is friends with Bill Maher therefor she is not a sweeping liberal-basher.

To be fair, O’Reilly has a reason to be mad at Franken, especially after the release of Franken’s upcoming book, “Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right.” It is reported that an unflattering picture of O’Reilly dons the cover of the book along side Ann Coulter. I’ll have to wait for the book to be released before I can make any final judgments on that.

To get the scoop from Franken’s side on why he doesn’t like O’Reilly too much, check out his interview with Buzzflash.com.

http://aggressive-voice.com/zz569.html
I'm pretty much giong to stay away from this thread...but just so you know O'Reilly was proven wrong...and once again ANN was right!
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:42 PM
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Treason: O’Reilly Vs Coulter
By Bruce Walker (07/25/03)

Bill O’Reilly, who normally resists conventional dogma, demonstrated in consecutive nights on his Fox News program that the master of no-spin is as incapable of penetrating the Orwellian fables that surround Senator Joe McCarthy and anti-communism as any establishment pundit.

When the discussion of Joe McCarthy came up, Ann challenged O’Reilly to identify a single victim of the dead Senator. O’Reilly hid his obvious ignorance by declining to get “drawn in to” an argument about whether McCarthy was good or bad. The senator was “bad” because “everyone knew it.”

Ann pressed; Bill retreated. He noted that “everyone” knew about the abuses of the House Un-American Activities Committee. While it is an undeserved compliment to the ignoramuses of college campuses today to assume that students or professors have even heard of HUAC, Ms. Coulter noted the patent absurdity of O’Reilly’s assertion: Senator Joe McCarthy was never on the House Un-American Activities Committee.

What is amazing about Bill O’Reilly’s confused statement is that Ann Coulter notes in Treason that McCarthy attackers invariably place this United States Senator in the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

On page fifty-six of Treason, Ann points out that the New York Times even had a crossword puzzle which asked for “Sen. McCarthy’s grp.” and the supposedly correct answer was HUAC. How could such an obvious mistake become part of a crossword puzzle? Those on the Left do not care about facts.

But Bill O’Reilly, not a fanatical Leftist, should care about facts. Sadly, not only did Bill fail to cite a single example of an innocent person besmirched by Senator McCarthy (there are none) but he inaccurately identified Senator McCarthy as a member of the House Un-American Activities Committee (although his guest, Ann Coulter, had highlighted this as the penultimate example of Leftist brainwashing.)

The saddest aspect of bumbling by O’Reilly, however, happened the next day, when he responded to a viewer’s defense of Ann Coulter by commenting that anyone who did not know that anti-communists in the early 1950s were working closely together was ill informed.

I admire Bill O’Reilly, but his knowledge of the Cold War and the vast treason that preceded the Cold War appears almost non-existent. The real story of HUAC is a perfect example of this ignorance. The House Un-American Activities Committee was created at the insistence of New York Congressman Samuel Dickstein, who was a liberal Democrat.

The purpose of this committee was not to investigate organizations and individuals sympathetic to Communism, but to investigate organizations and individuals sympathetic to Nazism. Dickstein himself was a Soviet agent with the cover name of “Crook.” Samuel Dickstein was a traitor working for communism in Congress, and he did it purely for the money.

So, HUAC and McCarthy are interchangeable? McCarthy never served in the House of Representatives. HUAC was created by the Democrats in the House of Representatives, and not by the Republicans in the Senate. The man responsible for creating HUAC was a liberal Jewish Democrat congressman from New York instead of a conservative Catholic Republican senator from New York.

Oh, yes - one other trifling detail: Wisconsin Republican Senator Joe McCarthy, who was exempt from military service, volunteered to serve in the Army Air Corps and did so with distinction in one of the most dangerous combat roles of the Second World War - tail gunner on a B-17 Flying Fortress. New York Democrat Congressman Samuel Dickstein, who was responsible for creating HUAC, was a traitor in the employ of the Soviet Union who sold out America for nothing more noble than money, with the cover name “Crook.”

Ann Coulter does not cover Dickstein in Treason, but the true origin of HUAC is a perfect example of the reason why Ann uses the brass knuckles rhetoric which seems to bother Bill O’Reilly. The treason of Samuel Dickstein has been known for eight years. Scholars of the Cold War even provide details on the amount of his pay - $1,250 a month - in books on Soviet penetration of America.

These books reveal the greatest crime in American history. The damage caused by American traitors in the service of Moscow was greater, not smaller, than Senator McCarthy believed. But these books have received so little attention from the establishment Leftist media that well-intentioned and fair-minded men like Bill O’Reilly still believe the old mythology of noxious anti-communism.

If Bill would actually read Venona: Decoding Soviet Espionage in America, Hollywood Party, The Secret World of American Communism or any of the other books which expose in detail by reference to redundant, reliable and independent sources the unbelievable damage done to the human race by American Stalinists, often still unrepentant Stalinists, then perhaps O’Reilly would not believe that Ann Coulter is too harsh. Indeed, O’Reilly might think that she was too kind.
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Bill O’Reilly picked the wrong person to be a human punching bag when he invited Ann Coulter on his show. His purpose was to position himself as an independent and Coulter as a "right-wing pundit." But Coulter tried getting into the substance of her book, Treason, and O’Reilly was exposed as a know-nothing on the subject of Joe McCarthy.

Rebutting phony charges that she is "mean," Coulter said, "I’m responding to 50 years of the liberal creation of a myth—turning an honorable American, a great American patriot, Joe McCarthy, into a virtual Nazi." O’Reilly responded, "I’m not going with that. I’m not going with that. A guy who used his power to do some good but a lot of bad too." Then the following exchange occurred:

Coulter: "Like what?"

O’Reilly: "He demonized people who didn’t deserve to be demonized."

Coulter: "That’s not true. Name one. There is not one."

O’Reilly: "I’ll name one—Dalton Trumbo."

Coulter: "He had nothing to do with Dalton Trumbo."

O’Reilly: "Sure he did. It was the House of Unamerican Activities Committee. And who was overseeing that?"

Coulter: "He was known as Senator McCarthy. He was in the Senate not the House. Everyone confuses him with the House UnAmerican Activities Committee."

O’Reilly: "But who was overseeing that? Come on, you know the clubhouse rules." Coulter: "He had nothing to do with HUAC. You see this is part of the myth. Everyone says this. Everyone says HUAC."

O’Reilly: "All right, I don’t want to debate McCarthy. He’s dead...And I’m not debating what’s in your book."

O’Reilly embarrassed himself by not having the facts. Rather than admit he may have made a mistake, he tried to move on by saying that McCarthy was dead. Yes, that’s true. But the myth about McCarthy lives on in the minds of liberals and left-wingers and even Bill O’Reilly. O’Reilly didn’t have the facts about Dalton Trumbo. Rather than being an innocent victim of McCarthy or even the House UnAmerican Activities Committee, the facts show that he spent time in prison for refusing to testify about Communist penetration of Hollywood. Steven Martinovich, who has written extensively about the Hollywood Communists, says Trumbo at first denied being a Communist and later admitted it.

To the credit of Fox News, the transcript of the O’Reilly show was posted on the Fox News web site, where people could see how he lost the debate with Coulter. Ironically, O’Reilly has himself been accused of "McCarthyite" tactics. Hussein Ibish of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee claimed during an appearance on The O’Reilly Factor that O’Reilly had used "McCarthyite" tactics in raising questions about former Florida Professor Sami Al-Arian’s involvement with terrorists. "Mr. Ibish," said O’Reilly, "it’s not fair of you to accuse me of being Joseph McCarthy for asking questions." Indeed, it was entirely appropriate for O’Reilly to raise these questions, and Al-Arian was later indicted as a leader of the terrorist group Palestinian Islamic Jihad. McCarthy and O’Reilly were both right.
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I love it when he says stuff like "We only have a minute left- tell me about your stint in rehab? How was it?"

It's like, WTF, Larry?
LOL...I know! And he doesn't even research or have any basic knowledge of the person before they come onto his show! He pronounces names wrong and just embarrasses himself!!!!
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I happen to enjoy watching LARRY KING, his best interviews are with politicians tough. I've always liked the fact that, even though he has hinted at being liberal off the show...ON the show he is completely unbiased. I'm surprised he has never interviewed Stevie. Also interesting is when he interviews death row inmates, etc...

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Crikey, did anyone see Chris Rock on CNN? He was flying by the seat of his pants! The corker was when he said "I sound like ****, sorry!"

His wife seemed like the second coming of Einstein next to that man.
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LOL...I know! And he doesn't even research or have any basic knowledge of the person before they come onto his show! He pronounces names wrong and just embarrasses himself!!!!
I like him, he lets a lot of space to the interviewed, making him/her expose, after an apparent quiet routine of basic questions.

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