A Concert for the Gulf Coast

[irishgrl]

crapulous

latest addition to Websters. (has 4 stars after the entry)

[amber]

Originally Posted by Moony

haha.....Macy Gray?! Ack, run!

Don't hate cause your voice isn't throaty, and your hair isn't free.
Also, she was only introducing.... Don't make me send you Blue Lamp Me, Biantuhcha!!! "oooo. yeah. oooo. yeah. ooo. yeah...ooo"

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by amber

Hey, hey now. I'm not old enough to remember a televised cigarette commercial!

sigh.......just think of all the Madison Avenue Genius that will die with the likes of me.........

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by amber

Don't hate cause your voice isn't throaty, and your hair isn't free.
Also, she was only introducing.... Don't make me send you Blue Lamp Me, Biantuhcha!!!

exposing ignorance here (its a KODAK moment) but the only time I ever heard Macy Gray was in the Spider Man Movie during the Multi-Cultural Celebration...
she sounded good, and I recall reading that she guested on one of Stevie's CD's (Trouble in Shangri-La?) (who has money to buy CD's? not THIS single mom.....)

[amber]

SDMHA is on right now!!!! aaand I missed it...sounded okay, though, from what i heard.
Who else saw?? Moony? EnchantiSLN? How was it? any recordings?

[amber]

um...
Dear Alicia Keyes...

Oh, nevermind.
My point is, I came in while she was singing:
"living on dreams, living on dreams, living on dreams"


I usually like artists who are varied in their style, but I go very hot and cold with Miss Alicia.
There's something very talented, yet a little POSEURISH, about her. Oh, and now Tyra just said "Lightening Strikes" while introducing Gwen....who is singing with "Puffy". God, I hate Puffy. He's So lame.
Okay, that's it.
Except that Gwen looks hot as usual. Much leg. I also admire her marketing skills.
T.V. sucks bun sometimes.

[Moony]

Originally Posted by amber

SDMHA is on right now!!!! aaand I missed it...sounded okay, though, from what i heard.
Who else saw?? Moony? EnchantiSLN? How was it? any recordings?

sorry, didn't catch it. I saw the title "Fashion Rocks" and thought...ugh...pretentious, superficial, annoying BS.

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by amber

Except that Gwen looks hot as usual. Much leg. I also admire her marketing skills.

Ahem. she is taking notes from Madonna. Not a bad role model, but sadly, its been done. Twice. (if you count Cher)

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LISA MARIE WITH BILLY IDOL WAS PRETTY AWESOME.

Yeah I'm a sucker for Billy Idol, and that song kicks, but still - There were really good rock harmonies, the band was very good, and LMP wore a black mini with a black bridal veil. LMP almost always looks pretty *rock* good.
She has that face. And I definitely like her voice quality.

Also Billy looked very good, in a weathered way *crush*.

I'm only *80's* human. I mean, I listen to Rebel Yell regularly.

(hi, Livia! )

Great closer.

[amber]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Ahem. she is taking notes from Madonna. Not a bad role model, but sadly, its been done. Twice. (if you count Cher)

True, but I always maintain Stevie was the first, best, blond media whore.
Stevie was media before there was media on the enormous scale it enjoys now.
Stevie made people want to show videos on TV! Stevie showed everyone how beautiful a blond girl with some good lyrics and video effects, (Stevie/FM and Debbie/Blondie)
and most of all dancing, and flesh, could be. (okay, but really. Hello, Gypsy, Heart of Glass, thank you!)

From what I've seen, she is the most photographed/recorded woman ever. And without parallel the most LIVE PERFORMANCES recorded woman ever.

Madonna did many kick arse videos, and was everywhere, but she was never so live as Stevie. And she could never be, because she doesn't have a voice for it, and also because she mainly (almost solely) marketed herself in the media, rather than on the strength of live performances.

Stevie sang all the time, all around, with all the people. Stevie is a singer/songwriter/visually compelling/master of live performances/brilliant improvisationalist/ workhorse / - with colossal confidence.
Stevie is a musician, a vocal musician. And a good one. Stevie could work with live bands, Stevie made up crazy good *shmidt* all the time! In some periods every performance was different!

Madonna is a brilliant visual artist/fashionista, a brilliant marketing strategist, and a workhorse with colossal confidence. Her voice is good enough, her dancing/choreography is always a treat - is in fact often the best part. Madonna is a different genius, though.
But I really consider them part of different musical worlds.

I consider it a BLESSED MIRACLE that there is so many live audios/videos of FM/Stevie, since they were popular in a time when video/audio recording by the average layman was so primitive.
I always think of it as getting to witness genius in progress. And I mean that of the whole band, although Stevie's voice/movement is a mysterious compelling draw for me.
Okay, I'll hush.
P.S. I like Gwen way better than I'll ever like Madonna. She is more skilled in some special ways. Mainly vocally, live performance authentic wise, and lyrically for sure. Gwen is just overall more unusual and versatile and charming and talented.

[irishgrl]

yez........but: Cher was the first best female ROCKER.(who marketed herself. otherwise, that honor goes to Janis IMO)
Madonna learned how to re-invent herself from Cher.
Unfortunately for Madonna: there's only so many public lifetimes you can exploit. too bad.
I like Gwen ok but Cher is WAY better. Madonna is just a media whore.
Stevie on the other hand, has stayed consistent in her presentation.
She may have more lasting appeal, but her overall image has remained intact.
Which is why she has lasted. its a GOOD image...........some people need to re-invent themselves (Cher, Madonna) but others bank on their timeless image (Stevie, Janis, etc)

oh yes, the all important "IMO".........

[amber]

okay, yeah.
I mean, you aren't really speaking to my point, so I don't have much to say, but...fine?

[irishgrl]

Originally Posted by Moony

Cher as a rocker? Well, admittedly, I am not familiar with the vast majority of Cher's work, but,...it's really hard to picture her as a rocker.

Stevie
Gwen
Madonna
Cher

I edited, (as usual)! Cher was the first female artist to market herself (including re-inventing herself).
Janis was the first TRUE female ROCKER. (point of clarification that didnt go from one page to another)

Madonna copied Cher's ability to transform herself...

but Amber is Right. only Stevie has been able to keep the attention of the massess for three decades WITHOUT changing anyting.

I cant think of anyone else that has been able to do that......


so: Amber: my apologies.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Moony

Cher as a rocker? Well, admittedly, I am not familiar with the vast majority of Cher's work, but,...it's really hard to picture her as a rocker.

Stevie
Gwen
Madonna
Cher

Insert Grace Slick, Heart, Pat Benatar, JJ, and Chrissy Hynde and we're in business.

[irishgrl]

all of which are GREAT rockers but whose images remain static.

I admit I posted in haste but I think my main point (Madonna copied Cher) still stands. its a matter of opinion who you think is the best female rocker........

and I will defend Stevie as strongly as the next Stevie fan. There is NO replacement for Stevie, which in the end is the true test of longevity.