I hate Assh*les

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by irishgrl

Im not sure I understand "right to work" but as far as I know, there is no union for waitressess/waiters...

Yes, there is. It's called HERE-Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees. In fact, local 681 in CA seems to be one of the bigger ones.

[gldstwmn]

Here's a brief explanation of right to work:

The so-called "right to work" laws have nothing to do with at-will employment, but are a form of anti-union legislation. A little historical background will help explain.

A hundred years ago, workers who formed unions to collectively bargain with employers were prosecuted for unlawful restraints of trade and were thrown in jail for even a peaceful strike or picket line. But, in the National Labor Relations Act, passed in 1935, the nation recognized the right of employees to form and join their own unions free of employer interference, and made it obligatory for employers to recognize and bargain with unions selected by a majority of their employees. The Taft-Hartley Act of 1947 prohibited the closed shop, which conditioned an employee's hiring on union membership. The law permits the "union shop," which requires a newly-hired employee to join a union within 30 days. This law also permitted the states to prohibit "agreements requiring membership in a labor organization as a condition of employment." As a result, 21 states, mostly in the South and West, passed laws which give employees the "right to work" without joining a union. In those states, the union shop is replaced by the open shop, where union membership is completely voluntary. In most of those states, the "right to work" laws also prohibit the so-called agency shop, where employees must either join a union or to pay it a fee for collective bargaining services that is somewhat less than the amount of union dues.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

I only tip if the waitress/waiter is nice and friendly. If it's slow, I can deal with that...if the food isnt that great, I can deal with that. As long as your server has a good attitude, they deserve a tip. Some people dont believe in tipping at all...and if waiters didnt make such a low wage, I probably wouldnt tip.

I know 4 or 5 guys who don't tip, period. They even take pride in the fact.
And it's not embarrassing going out with them, because I always feel like I have to pay their tip, too. Which, of course, sucks. Or, if the waitress is right there when we're paying, I'll make it CLEAR that the tip is from ME only, not the deadbeat friend.
I tip 15-20%, depending on how friendly they were. I'll go 10% if the server was truly rude.

[WelshWitchPMD]

You know what also stinks? When you go to a sort of swanky restaurant and the service is not that great and you get the bill and there is already a 20% gratuity added on to the bill. That happened to my friend and I in Little Italy in NYC last Saturday night. On top of all it was her birthday. We just left the exact amount that was due to the penny. If the service was good we might have added a few more cents to the tip but not with so-so service. We did not get 20% worth of service. When you have to ask for more water a few times that is not good service.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I tip 15-20%, depending on how friendly they were. I'll go 10% if the server was truly rude.

That's basically how I am. Although I can remember one time that the waiter was such an ass that I didn't leave a tip, and then another time that I didn't have the money for a tip, which was ultra-embarrassing.

[estranged4life]

at a restaurant we always, repeat ALWAYS leave a tip even if the service is half-assed...And we always leave more than a 20% as a tip.

I understand "Right to Work", Since Oklahoma is now a "Right to Work" state...I am indifferent to that status since I have seen both sides of the issue and both are complete jokes (I am somewhat Anti-Union).

[DrummerDeanna]

First - Brian? Your sig pic is scary :eek
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Second - that SUCKS Jessica. You know I always think of these types of stories when I eat out - I am proud to say that I usually tip in excess of 20% - not much - but usually over that - unless the wait person themselves is horribly rude, which is pretty rare.

Sorry you had such a crappy night - hopefully you won't be due for another for a while.

[estranged4life]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

First - Brian? Your sig pic is scary :eek

Doesnt look too scary to me...I was going to use the Pope George but found this one more accurate.

In the future I will plan to use the Holy Mother Mary/Hillary Clinton image.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

Doesnt look too scary to me...I was going to use the Pope George but found this one more accurate.

In the future I will plan to use the Holy Mother Mary/Hillary Clinton image.

Oh my - I've not even seen the Holy Mother/Hillary picture lol....

Pope George, I think I have seen that one, but the way things are going - I agree, your sig is more accurate.

[seeker007nmss]

Here is one you may not know. Casino dealers make minimum wage - their pay is from tips also.

And....check with your bartender. If the group is being real A**holes, their are tricks of the trade to add "things" to drinks to even the odds a bit. In the old days Visine was dropped into drinks to give the patron the "runs" all night. I am sure there are many more these days. I have HORROR stories of what our waitresses have done to patrons and their drinks in the casino. And they deserved every bit of it!. So.... check in with the experts. They can help.

Also the customer comment cards actually do help/hurt the workers. So fill them out if you don't like something. They need a paper trail for HR in order to fire some folks. And in case of good ones, we use to go to Casa Bonita in Denver (yes the same as in South Park) and we filled in so many comment cards for one waitress (A group of 30 of us us top go alot) that she was promoted shortly there after.

The public is also much ruder than ever. Manners are all but gone. It's just sad anymore.

[darklinensuit]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I know 4 or 5 guys who don't tip, period. They even take pride in the fact.

I do too, and I will not eat out with them. Or anybody who is habitually rude to staff.

- Jake

[Merf]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

at a restaurant we always, repeat ALWAYS leave a tip even if the service is half-assed...And we always leave more than a 20% as a tip.

I'm basically the same way. As a server at a very busy restaurant for a year, I saw all kinds of people... but whenever I go to eat-- unless the service is DREADFUL-- I always leave at least 20%. If the service is bad I usually leave 15%. I know what those people have to deal with-- so a lot of times if the food is slow, it's not their fault. I sympathize with servers and I swore on a stack of bibles I would never wait tables ever again. I won't do it.

One time I waited on a Carolina Panther and his wife, they sat upstairs and did "family style" which required a lot more service at the table... so after running up and down the stairs all night, their bill came to $63.00 ... they left me ONE FREAKING DOLLAR for a tip-- bringing the total to $64. I would have rather them not tipped me at all. I would have been less insulted. People like that are just ignorant, and don't realize that we only get paid $2.13/hour to wait tables... TWO DOLLARS AND THIRTEEN CENTS AN HOUR. I never saw any of that money-- it all went to taxes. PLUS I had to write a check to the state of NC in April for $600. For what???? Seriously folks, think about it next time you go out to eat and decide not to leave a tip. As long as you got your food and the server wasn't an ass to you? Leave them something. That's the money I lived off of-- I never SAW a paycheck.

Sorry, but people who don't tip make me absolutely livid.

[Merf]

Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

The public is also much ruder than ever. Manners are all but gone. It's just sad anymore.

Amen to that. I see that even when I make people freaking coffee drinks all day. People really suck.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by darklinensuit

I do too, and I will not eat out with them. Or anybody who is habitually rude to staff.

- Jake

Yes. I have a cousin, who is a nurse. If one little thing isn't right, she turns absolute BITCH on them, completely berating the server at the table. I just sit there, horrified! If the server looks at me, I roll my eyes, indicating, "I too, know she's a bitch!" I've apologized for her before, while she went to the restroom.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

And in case of good ones, we use to go to Casa Bonita in Denver (yes the same as in South Park)

You used to go to Casa Bonita?