Ageing rockers and their voices...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by ThePenguin

To me, it often sounds like he's just a tad off key. I just watched him at the original Live Aid the other night on Channel 13 and had that same thought. he looked good though, nice abs.

-Lis

His performance this time was better than it was 20 years ago.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky

I vehemently disagree with this statement. While it can't be denied that he has lost some of his range, I still think Lindsey sounds better than ever. The vocals in a lot of his recordings, both studio and live, from early in his career sound entirely too high pitched and almost feminine. The loss of range has meant a deepening of his voice, thus giving him a much more masculine, and in my opinion better, sound than ever before.

Now the change in Stevie's voice, on the other hand....

Is the main reason why I've lost interest in her.

I agree with this, too. I prefer his newer voice to his older one, and I think he's gotten a better sense of how to use it. It wouldn't hurt him to get a voice coach for the tours, but I still love his voice. On the other hand, Stevie got a voice coach and look what happened to her. Maybe he should stay away from one.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by ThePenguin

To me, it often sounds like he's just a tad off key. I just watched him at the original Live Aid the other night on Channel 13 and had that same thought. he looked good though, nice abs.

-Lis

Ah, but I don't think that matters so much in a rock group. It's the passion and feeling that's the key. I'm sure Celine always sounds perfect but you can keep her.
I also think Lou Reed is one of the great rock voices and his style is just to speak-sing. Sounds damn good too.

Some of the greatest singers who can't sing: David Bowie, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Iggy Pop, Lou Reed... there are probably quite a few more.

I'd have any of those any day over technically perfect but passionless singers.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by dissention

Me, too. I love his voice.

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

I agree. But for a while there his voice was in dreadful shape. He dodged every high note he could. He must be doing vocal exercises, which is what they all should have been doing from the very begining but I'm sure at the time it was considered very un-rock and roll.

Whew, I'm not alone!

When was Daltrey's voice in bad shape? Was it in the 1980s?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by eclipse

I can do without:
Sir. Paul, sounds like he is speaking the words-not singing

The man is 62 years old. We're lucky to have him at all.

Originally Posted by eclipse

Rod Stewart-----Please...the tourch song CD was never a good idea.

The man had thyroid cancer. He can't belt it out the way he used to. It's a miracle he can still sing. If I remember correctly, his standards CD sold pretty well.

Originally Posted by eclipse

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And my used to be, most favorite-Eric Clapton
This guy just has no business doing soupy love ballads, pop tunes.
I liked him better when he was drinking and partying' and playing great Rock and Roll Blues- Am I crazy, or does anyone else think he's just ...."boring"......now. Sad, sad, sad.
I miss the days of "Further on up the Road" live...and "Living on Tulsa Time"

Clapton is still as solid a performer as he ever was, in fact he's more precise now that he's off the drugs and sober. I wouldn't call his show boring by any stretch of the imagination. His last hit ballad was a song about his son falling out of a window and dying.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by eclipse

""Come on you guys""... she pleads, for understanding.

You can't compare Eric Clapton working with Dwayne Allman,

It'd be pretty hard for him to work with a dead guy again, don't you think?

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The man had thyroid cancer. He can't belt it out the way he used to. It's a miracle he can still sing. If I remember correctly, his standards CD sold pretty well.

He actually recorded three of those American Songbook albums. They apparently were hugely successful. They're not my kind of thing, but my mother has all three.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by eclipse

Never really been a fan of Mr. Jimmy Page, but he can still sing, as can Bono and John Mellancamp, Steven Tyler, I mean these guys have been singing for 30 years...and they still sound fresh

Jimmy Page is the guitarist. It's Robert Plant who sings.
I don't think I've ever even heard Jimmy sing in fact...

[dissention]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

He actually recorded three of those American Songbook albums. They apparently were hugely successful. They're not my kind of thing, but my mother has all three.

They're insufferable. Now every veteran artist is doing them, Carly Simon being the newest recruit. Have mercy.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Whew, I'm not alone!

When was Daltrey's voice in bad shape? Was it in the 1980s?

Well, I saw them live in the late 90's, so that's one time I can think of and if you have the Live Aid DVD, again, not a great performance, IMO and the 9/11 benefit show, he does the same thing. I was amazed at how good he sounded the other day.
I also saw them in the late 80's and I'd say his voice was okay but Townsend was playing acoustic guitar because of his hearing problem so that was a bit of a disappointment. I think Roger and Entwistle basically carried that show.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by dissention

I agree with this, too. I prefer his newer voice to his older one, and I think he's gotten a better sense of how to use it. It wouldn't hurt him to get a voice coach for the tours, but I still love his voice. On the other hand, Stevie got a voice coach and look what happened to her. Maybe he should stay away from one.

Yeah but you have to admit she sounds better these days then she did during the late 80s, early 90s. She sounded fantastic on The Dance and Enchanted tours.

As for Lindsey, I think he sounds great these days personally.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Jimmy Page is the guitarist. It's Robert Plant who sings.
I don't think I've ever even heard Jimmy sing in fact...

Nope. Even when he went solo, he had David Coverdale or the Black Crowes singing. I can't think of one song I've ever heard him sing.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

They're insufferable. Now every veteran artist is doing them, Carly Simon being the newest recruit. Have mercy.

It's not my thing but apparently a lot of people are buying them.

[trackaghost]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Well, I saw them live in the late 90's, so that's one time I can think of and if you have the Live Aid DVD, again, not a great performance, IMO and the 9/11 benefit show, he does the same thing. I was amazed at how good he sounded the other day.
I also saw them in the late 80's and I'd say his voice was okay but Townsend was playing acoustic guitar because of his hearing problem so that was a bit of a disappointment. I think Roger and Entwistle basically carried that show.

Both times I've seen old Rog he's been great thankfully.
I'm glad Pete is playing electric guitar again these days, I remember his 'acoustic period' and it was such a disappointment. Can't really do an effective windmill with an acoustic!

I must check out the Live Aid DVD again...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by trackaghost

Both times I've seen old Rog he's been great thankfully.
I'm glad Pete is playing electric guitar again these days, I remember his acoustic period and it was such a disappointment.

I must check out the Live Aid DVD again...

Well, to cut Roger some slack, I will say that a lot of singer have trouble getting their breath here because the air is so thin. It's hard for anyone to belt it out at almost 6000 feet above sea level.