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Old 06-27-2005, 08:21 PM
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Half?? you sure about that? I recorded 10 shows this year, and 7 of them i have put out in circulation via trade, not torrent... as far as i know, only 3 other people have recorded QUALITY audio from the 2005 shows.. Most of them, including mine were available via trade only... sure, some shows are put out on torrents which are excellent quality.. but to imply half is exxaggerating just a bit...
I was speaking about bootlegs in general.

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it's not as if the world of torrents has introduced dozens of soundboard recordings that were never before heard..
Respectfully, that's bull****.

I couldn't count on my hands the uncirculated soundboards and recordings that I've gotten via torrents. I never introduced any soundboards myself, but I circulated two recordings that never saw the light of day and that's what makes bit torrents so great; you get to hear stuff that no one has ever circulated before.
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:27 PM
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Respectfully, that's bull****.

I couldn't count on my hands the uncirculated soundboards and recordings that I've gotten via torrents. I never introduced any soundboards myself, but I circulated two recordings that never saw the light of day and that's what makes bit torrents so great; you get to hear stuff that no one has ever circulated before.
it's the Napster for bootlegs... you can buy CD's or you can download them... it's more economical to download vs. buying CD's of course.. but it cost no more to trade than it does to download from torrents (maybe a few extra cents for postage and CD-R's)..

Torrents is fine.. but it's not the end all for quality recocordings..
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Old 06-27-2005, 08:30 PM
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Torrents is fine.. but it's not the end all for quality recocordings..
It is when it comes to Mac/Stevie/Lindsey shows. Most bootleg traders out there won't even touch their boots with a ten foot pole because Mac fans don't take care of the recordings and the quality is utter crap in comparison to most other artists. That's an accepted fact.
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Another great thing about these bittorent sites is that you can get DVDs. Brian J. does DVDs and so do a few other traders, but not that many. Plus, you're guaranteed that they're lossless. Bittorrents are AWESOME!
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:11 PM
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Torrents is more for people who don't have a big collection of shows.. for those people, it's a good way to get stuff for free..
but it also helps those who are just starting out to build a larger collection. When I first started collecting I had only about 3 traders who helped me out (Sara M., Jennifer G. & Brianna, Who is no longer an active trader) cause otherwise I was left to try to obtain bootlegs via eBay

I trade people for discs that are currently available on torrents on a regular basis since I don't have a PC to be able to download (Or upload) shows myself...I have found great sounding shows on torrents (Non-Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks related) that I might not have been able to obtain elsewhere.

I also continue to trade music too which is also fine, I see no difference in trading vs. torrent, Both accomplish the same goal, Getting the music out to the fans!!!
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:15 PM
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It is when it comes to Mac/Stevie/Lindsey shows. Most bootleg traders out there won't even touch their boots with a ten foot pole because Mac fans don't take care of the recordings and the quality is utter crap in comparison to most other artists. That's an accepted fact.
no, you are mistaken.. yes, some of the earlier Stevie/Mac shows were/are "crap".. but anything from 2001- present day is pretty top quality..
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but it also helps those who are just starting out to build a larger collection. When I first started collecting I had only about 3 traders who helped me out (Sara M., Jennifer G. & Briana, Who no longer an active trader.)

I trade people for discs that are currently available on torrents on a regular basis since I do now have a PC to be able to download (Or upload) shows myself...I have found great sounding shows on torrents (Non-Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks related) that I might not have been able to obtain elsewhere.

I also continue to trade music too which is also fine, I see no difference in trading vs. torrent, Both accomplish the same goal, Getting the music out to the fans!!!
well said and i agree...
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:19 PM
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no, you are mistaken.. yes, some of the earlier Stevie/Mac shows were/are "crap".. but anything from 2001- present day is pretty top quality..
Not by a long shot.
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Not by a long shot.
then i guess you don't have much of current Stevie/Mac collection...
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then i guess you don't have much of current Stevie/Mac collection...
I have plenty and a lot of it is crap and has been polluted by people trading MP3s.
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I have plenty and a lot of it is crap and has been polluted by people trading MP3s.
well, yeah, if all you do is download your shows, i would imagine it would sound like crap.. try trading for shows in the future, this way you can get a better quality recording
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:35 PM
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well, yeah, if all you do is download your shows, i would imagine it would sound like crap.. try trading for shows in the future, this way you can get a better quality recording
Gee, you think? I don't download **** MP3 shows, I trade for shows and it's the asses that download MP3s who burn them to disc for trades and try to pass them off as just regular copies. Mac traders don't take care of their bootlegs.
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Gee, you think? I don't download **** MP3 shows, I trade for shows and it's the asses that download MP3s who burn them to disc for trades and try to pass them off as just regular copies. Mac traders don't take care of their bootlegs.
Well, i take care of mine... and funny, i dont recall doing any current trades with you for any of my 7 shows that i have offered... which means, either you dont collect the amount of shows you claim you do, or you are getting these shows from another source.. if that is the case, then you are getting a copy of a copy.. the more copies made, the less quality you have, thus a "crap" recording...
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:43 PM
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Well, i take care of mine... and funny, i dont recall doing any current trades with you for any of my 7 shows that i have offered... which means, either you dont collect the amount of shows you claim you do, or you are getting these shows from another source.. if that is the case, then you are getting a copy of a copy.. the more copies made, the less quality you have, thus a "crap" recording...
I haven't traded for any of the new shows from the Two Voices tour because I don't want them right now and don't have the time to trade boots. I've got the DVD audios of the Vegas shows and that's all I need at the moment. And since when is quality lost when you make an exact copy of a disc? It's not, unless you burn at a speed higher than 2x or 4x and phuck it up with diginoise and litter it with recording flaws.
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I haven't traded for any of the new shows from the Two Voices tour because I don't want them right now and don't have the time to trade boots.
right.. just wait for them to be torrented
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