Howard Dean - Lord Have Mercy

[ShangriLaTroubl]

More democrats like Howard Dean are what IS needed to win elections. To beat the stereotype of liberal wussy crybabies, you need people who will give these scum Republican politicians their money's worth.

Republicans come up with every dirty trick in the book to win, they are already starting on Hillary--I say tell it like it is Howard--tell it like Cheney does and tell them to "go f-ck yourself!"

Chris

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Lux

You'd think he'd actually said something offensive. Geez, the reaction one statement gets over there, you can't say anything! Our former Opposition Leader called the Prime Minister an "arse-licker" to reporters. It's so sensetive and gagged over there, you'd be shuddering to hear the things shouted out and aired in parliamentary question time. But alas, as he said, it's just serving to distract from issues. Free speech? Meh, a term used only by those who barely know what it means.

It's so bad, that even non-Americans have to watch what they say. A Canadian Liberal MP, Carolyn Parrish, was actually kicked-out of the Liberal Party of Canada when she stepped on a Bush doll on a satyrical comedy show, called This Hour Has 22 Minutes, a few months after she called him a "moron" and after she said "I hate those bastards" in reference to the Bush administration. Yeah, North Americans are becoming a sensitive lot these days.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Who is he running against? I know nothing of his upcoming reelection camp.

It's a ways away, dear. I'm certain that a real kick-ass candidate is going to challenge him, though, especially since there's such contempt for him in this state right now.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

It's a ways away, dear. I'm certain that a real kick-ass candidate is going to challenge him, though, especially since there's such contempt for him in this state right now.

It will be interesting to see who can beat him. I wonder if Teddy boy will withdraw his support. It would seeming be hard for any Sen. candidate to win without Teddy behind them. Maybe a R will take it - NAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH -- it is Tax central after all

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

It will be interesting to see who can beat him. I wonder if Teddy boy will withdraw his support. It would seeming be hard for any Sen. candidate to win without Teddy behind them. Maybe a R will take it - NAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH -- it is Tax central after all

A Repug will never get a Senate seat, especially since they want that beastly wench Kerry Healey to run for it. She'd be slaughtered. Teddy will still support him, though, I don't see anything changing there. To be honest, as long as Mutt Romney is gone soon, I could care less.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

A Repug will never get a Senate seat, especially since they want that beastly wench Kerry Healey to run for it. She'd be slaughtered. Teddy will still support him, though, I don't see anything changing there. To be honest, as long as Mutt Romney is gone soon, I could care less.

There is no chance he will take deal with the R powers to be an accept the Mass Senate seat. Could he win? He won the governor race - and he is an a$$

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

There is no chance he will take deal with the R powers to be an accept the Mass Senate seat. Could he win? He won the governor race - and he is an a$$

Mutt will be history in the next election. Reilly is running against him and he'll take the whole state with a snap of the fingers.

Mutt hasn't been named the Valley Advocate's "Weasel of the Week" on more thna one occasion for nothing, you know! And his new plans for welfare are pissing people off BIG TIME.

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It's so bad, that even non-Americans have to watch what they say. A Canadian Liberal MP, Carolyn Parrish, was actually kicked-out of the Liberal Party of Canada when she stepped on a Bush doll on a satyrical comedy show, called This Hour Has 22 Minutes, a few months after she called him a "moron" and after she said "I hate those bastards" in reference to the Bush administration. Yeah, North Americans are becoming a sensitive lot these days.

That is so pathetic.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

Mutt will be history in the next election. Reilly is running against him and he'll take the whole state with a snap of the fingers.

Mutt hasn't been named the Valley Advocate's "Weasel of the Week" on more thna one occasion for nothing, you know! And his new plans for welfare are pissing people off BIG TIME.

He is pushing hard for the R Pres. candiadte in 04. He is doing national tours. He fought them there Teddy K gays ya know in the name of Jesus

[tynan88]

Originally Posted by Lux

You'd think he'd actually said something offensive. Geez, the reaction one statement gets over there, you can't say anything! Our former Opposition Leader called the Prime Minister an "arse-licker" to reporters. It's so sensetive and gagged over there, you'd be shuddering to hear the things shouted out and aired in parliamentary question time. But alas, as he said, it's just serving to distract from issues. Free speech? Meh, a term used only by those who barely know what it means.

I think a lot of people are shocked at how confrontational our system is...I bet you find it hard to realise that the two parties face each other...not the front...makes for fun watching sometikmes though

[strandinthewind]

Dean renews attacks on Republicans
Defends fundraising efforts



WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean said Saturday that positive responses from key supporters have reinforced his determination to keep talking tough, even though some congressional Democrats have suggested he should tone down his rhetoric.

"People want us to fight," Dean told the national party's executive committee. "We are here to fight."

Addressing Iowa party activists later Saturday in Des Moines, he added: "We need to be blunt and clear about the things we're going to fight for. I'm tired of lying down in front of the Republican machine. We need to stand up for what we believe in."

"We can use some of your passion," Rep. Leonard Boswell, D-Iowa, told Dean at the Iowa fundraiser.

Over the past week, Dean described Republicans as "pretty much a white, Christian party" and said many in the GOP "never made an honest living."

Several Democratic lawmakers distanced themselves from their chairman. Republican officials called on him to apologize. After weathering the criticism, Dean forged ahead with the GOP scolding at the meeting of Democratic National Committee leaders.

Yet some Democrats say the former Vermont governor should not remain the center of attention.

"Privately, people have said they don't want Howard Dean to become the story because we have more important issues to talk about," said Donna Brazile, who managed Al Gore's presidential campaign in 2000.

"But publicly we will continue to give Howard Dean our strong support," she said.

One of Dean's predecessors at the DNC, Don Fowler said, "The controversy over this statement or that statement is a blip and only a blip." But Fowler complained about leading Democrats who aired their gripes last week. "Even if they don't like it, they should have enough sense not to make those comments," Fowler said.

At the session in a downtown hotel, Dean accused Republicans of trying to suppress the vote, selling access to the White House for lobbyists and basically being dishonest with the public.

"The reason the Republicans are in trouble is because there are so many cases where they say one thing and do something else," Dean said.

He said President Bush's education initiative, the "No Child Left Behind" program, cuts school spending and a clean environment plan, the "Clear Skies Initiative," permits more pollution.

A spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee said Dean would rather sling mud than discuss serious matters.

"Dean's inflammatory rhetoric makes it clear that Democrats have no vision and would rather pander to the maniacal fringe than talk about the important issues facing our country," Tracey Schmitt said.

On political fundraising, the DNC trails the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 despite Dean's reputation as a potent fundraiser. The Democrats have raised almost $19 million so far this year.

Dean said he is bringing in $1 million weekly and that $100,000 was received, unsolicited, from online donors during a 24-hour period in the past week as the furor over his remarks grew.

Records show the DNC took in $13.8 million over the first three months of 2005, compared with $8.4 million during the same period in 2003, the last year without a federal election. Terry McAuliffe was party chairman then.

Dean has given more than $1 million from the DNC to state parties. He said the DNC plans to share some of the money Dean raises for the national party when he is in a state. Both of these moves are winning him support from state party leaders.

In his remarks, Dean made few references to the recent brouhaha.

But when a DNC member joked that the best way to get the chairman's attention was to "jump up and down," a grinning Dean fired back: "That's my job."

The crowd of Democratic activists burst into applause.

Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/06/....ap/index.html

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

53% that voted for Dubya

That point is up for debate. When you have minority voters waiting in the rain for 12 hours in Ohio and the Secretary Of State just happens to be the chairman of the committee to reelect Bush/Cheney '04...I mean can anyone say Katherine Harris?
Not to mention electronic voting machines that default to Bush Cheney all by themselves.
Good for Howard Dean. I am tired of having to kowtow to a minority of fascist/theocrat/extermist/phonies that portray themsleves as the majority of this country because they own the big five media outlets and continuosly feed the American public a steady diet of hate and propaganda.
Does anyone, anyone here without running to Google know how many people have been killed in Iraq? When was the last time you heard it on the news?
What about the Downing Street Memo?
First the Democratic Party gets crticized for not having a spine and then when people like Reid and Dean speak their mind they are excoriated for it. You can't have it both ways.
What about when Cheney told Pat Leahy to go f*ck himself on the Senate floor?
If you really want to get down to the nitty gritty, I can bust out some quotes from the more extremist wing of your party and they ain't pretty.
The last real election in this country occured in 1996.
After that DeLay began all this bull**** with redistricting and took the House Of Representatives. Guess what? The courts ruled that was done illegally. Too late. That horse has left the barn.
So no, the Democratic Party doesn't need to figure out how to get out the vote. We need to find a way to stop the GOP from stealing elections and prosecute them for the high crimes and misdemeanors that they have perpetrated in the last five or so years.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

First the Democratic Party gets crticized for not having a spine and then when people like Reid and Dean speak their mind they are excoriated for it. You can't have it both ways.

AMEN.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

AMEN.

DDIITTTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

IThey aren't going to get it if people like Dean make statements that while maybe not necessarily deragatory to voters, imply that those voting for Republicans are pretty much white, Christian voters too in a sense that it's a bad thing.

82% of the Republican party identifies itself as white and Christian. FYI.