Jackson's share of Beatles catalog in doubt

[sparky]

On a business related note, people say he isn't in financial trouble because of the outrageous numbers involved. If he is worth, say 550 million, and his debts are about 300...that isn't a good ratio. Not when his overhead is 24 million a year.

[goldustboi]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I never wish ill on anyone (Pat Robertson doesn't count ), but I seriously hope Sony buys him out.
The idea of him making even a DIME on any of the Beatles' or Stevie's songs, just bugs the crap out of me.

Why shouldnt MJ make money from the Beatles, Stevie etc? If he owns the catalogue, which he does, as a result of a fair and square business deal, then so he should earn money from them. The crap only gets bugged out of you purely because its Michael Jackson and you're therefore, as most other people are on this board, only too quick to judge him. Would u be so angry if Stevie signed a business deal that resulted in her earning money from MJ? I think not, I'm guessing you'd be pleased that she was making money from him.

It baffles me as to why people have this innate hatred for Michael Jackson - fair enough if you dislike his music and blah blah but the way people talk about him is as though he's pure evil. (Who cares if he's in the Guiness Book Of Records for being the celbrity whose donated most money to charity). As it stands, the man is innocent until proven guilty so you and everybody else should stop acting as though he's been convicted.

[sparky]

Originally Posted by goldustboi

It baffles me as to why people have this innate hatred for Michael Jackson - fair enough if you dislike his music and blah blah but the way people talk about him is as though he's pure evil.

Michael never bugged me until....

1) He mutilated a perfectly handsome face with extreme and freakish surgical procedures

2) I became aware that he, as a grown man, shares his bed with adolescent males not related to him.

On count one, he clearly has self image problems that plague him to the point of psychosis. Okay, kind of pitiful. But, he isn't alone there.

On point two, I think men who have young boys in their beds are up to no good. Period. Unless it is your kid after he had a nightmare, there is trouble brewing.

I have plenty of friends who love kids. They babysit, they take friend's kids to the zoo, to the movies. They don't have sleepovers in their bedrooms - bedrooms that are full on equipped with security cameras, and doors with alarm code locks.

Michael used to make some kind of cool music. Now he has turned himself into a freak, and he is quite likely a criminal. Even if he never molested those boys, the fact that he is arrogant enough to continue with his behavior further confirms a kind of mental illness that demands treatment. If he gets off, and I think he will, I think he will be off to a country where his behavior is legal.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by goldustboi

Why shouldnt MJ make money from the Beatles, Stevie etc? If he owns the catalogue, which he does, as a result of a fair and square business deal, then so he should earn money from them. The crap only gets bugged out of you purely because its Michael Jackson and you're therefore, as most other people are on this board, only too quick to judge him. Would u be so angry if Stevie signed a business deal that resulted in her earning money from MJ? I think not, I'm guessing you'd be pleased that she was making money from him.

It baffles me as to why people have this innate hatred for Michael Jackson - fair enough if you dislike his music and blah blah but the way people talk about him is as though he's pure evil. (Who cares if he's in the Guiness Book Of Records for being the celbrity whose donated most money to charity). As it stands, the man is innocent until proven guilty so you and everybody else should stop acting as though he's been convicted.

In all actuality, I was a pretty big Michael Jackson fan up through 'Bad.'
Owned the albums, some maxi-singles, had MJ stickers, t-shirts, etc., etc.

For the reasons Michael fell out of favor in my eyes, see Sparky's post... he did a good job of summing up my feelings, too.

And you're right, he is innocent until proven guilty. But if he is guilty, then he is "pure evil" in my eyes, for having committed what I consider to be the most unforgivable thing a person could do -- harming a child.
Millions of dollars to charities means diddly-squat to me, if you've harmed a child.

[dudden22]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

In all actuality, I was a pretty big Michael Jackson fan up through 'Bad.'
Owned the albums, some maxi-singles, had MJ stickers, t-shirts, etc., etc.

I liked him through bad too. I still love "Billy Jean". It is hard to hear any of his music anymore though without immediately associating with what is going on. I just can't listen to it anymore.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dudden22

I liked him through bad too. I still love "Billy Jean". It is hard to hear any of his music anymore though without immediately associating with what is going on. I just can't listen to it anymore.

My favorites were always "Don't Stop 'Till You Get Enough," "Thriller," "Smooth Criminal" and "Leave Me Alone."
I try to disassociate the songs from the specifics of his personal life -- but it is tough.

And, when I was a kid, I used to defend M.J. until I was blue in the face, when someone would call him "weird."

[Moony]

Originally Posted by goldustboi

Why shouldnt MJ make money from the Beatles, Stevie etc? If he owns the catalogue, which he does, as a result of a fair and square business deal, then so he should earn money from them. The crap only gets bugged out of you purely because its Michael Jackson and you're therefore, as most other people are on this board, only too quick to judge him. Would u be so angry if Stevie signed a business deal that resulted in her earning money from MJ? I think not, I'm guessing you'd be pleased that she was making money from him.

It baffles me as to why people have this innate hatred for Michael Jackson - fair enough if you dislike his music and blah blah but the way people talk about him is as though he's pure evil. (Who cares if he's in the Guiness Book Of Records for being the celbrity whose donated most money to charity). As it stands, the man is innocent until proven guilty so you and everybody else should stop acting as though he's been convicted.

...Hmmm...maybe it's because he IS A FREAK!!!!!!!!

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

And, when I was a kid, I used to defend M.J. until I was blue in the face, when someone would call him "weird."

Me too! Lots of people critcized me for being a fan, and that was before...everything. I wore out Thriller and Bad. Damn, he was cute then.