Best/worst career moves - Page 2

GypsySorcerer · #16 04-16-2005, 11:25 AM

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Why do I feel like we did this "best and worst career moves" thing a few months ago? Is it just me? All the threads are combining in a cloud of fog.... or should I say... long nets of white cloud my memory...

Yeah, we did. I forgot what I wrote though.

xxxmx · #17 04-16-2005, 12:21 PM

best: the Dance. paved the way for Enchanted and TISL by reminding audiences that she did not in fact suck.

worst: believing that shoulder pads and teased hair would make her look thinner, not fuglier.

GateandGarden · #18 04-16-2005, 12:34 PM

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Worst: Not committing herself to keeping in shape and losing weight. She has all the money in the world to hire personal trainers, chefs, counselors, whatever she needs, yet she doesn't do it.

Who says she needs to lose weight?

blinker12 · #19 04-16-2005, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Yeah, we did. I forgot what I wrote though.

Ooh, did we? Sorry about that...

LiquidBlue5000 · #20 04-16-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Who says she needs to lose weight?

Well, "maintaining" her weight.. she's had too many ups and downs over the years, especially the early 90's.. she didn't have to get that big.. alot of people are on anti-depressants and they don't blow up like that..

Serrart · #21 04-16-2005, 02:19 PM

Best move: Going solo
Worst move: Believe in the entourage philosophy.

Romy

GateandGarden · #22 04-16-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

Well, "maintaining" her weight.. she's had too many ups and downs over the years, especially the early 90's.. she didn't have to get that big.. alot of people are on anti-depressants and they don't blow up like that..

Well, I've written many posts on more than one FM message board about how I don't think she ever looked bad and no one agrees with me completely, so I guess I'll spare everyone my same whiny ramblings and leave it at this sentence.

Oona · #23 04-16-2005, 03:00 PM

worst move....but as far as I know it wasn't entirely her choice was parting ways with Iovine. Listen to the qualities of BD and WH, then RAL and on....quite a difference. I guess this roots in the drug/alchohol issues, which one could say was her worst choice. on that note, klonopin and other antidepressants could qualify as a possible second choice for worst moves. I, however disregard that as a WORST move because she was following the advice (misguided as it may have beeen) from a psychiatrist. So I don't think of this as a "choice".
That being said, the best move was getting OFF of antidepressants. there was no way TISL or the SYW trax could have been what it was in her klonopin haze. It is never too late to redeem one's self. Getting off of these drugs may have also have been a contributing factor to the very existance of the Dance project working as well.

LiquidBlue5000 · #24 04-16-2005, 03:17 PM

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Well, I've written many posts on more than one FM message board about how I don't think she ever looked bad and no one agrees with me completely, so I guess I'll spare everyone my same whiny ramblings and leave it at this sentence.

Well, i think she's just about at her Street Angel weight at the moment... except now she has better hair and makeup... but i'm refering to more her 1993 appearance, namely the inauguration... she had blown up and she looked almost distorted- she did not look good at all during that time

SteveMacD · #25 04-16-2005, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

Well, "maintaining" her weight.. she's had too many ups and downs over the years, especially the early 90's.. she didn't have to get that big.. alot of people are on anti-depressants and they don't blow up like that..

But a LOT of people do blow up. It happened to me in my grad school days, and I was probably at my most physically active. I would walk my dog all over the campus of the Ohio State University, which I believe is the largest campus in the USA. After I got my dog (about three months after I started grad school), I moved into an apartment, and my diet subsequently improved greatly. It didn't matter. I looked as bloated as ever, I was hardly able to get out of bed some days, I was moody and irrational, and I couldn't stop sweating. And, I stayed bloated for about a year or so after taking myself off those drugs. These drugs play havoc with the body and are a sonuvabeyoch to get off of, which is why I look at that period for Stevie rather sympathetically.

SteveMacD · #26 04-16-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

Well, i think she's just about at her Street Angel weight at the moment... except now she has better hair and makeup... but i'm refering to more her 1993 appearance, namely the inauguration... she had blown up and she looked almost distorted- she did not look good at all during that time

At the moment, I believe Stevie is having hip problems. So it's understandable as to why her weight is up. I thought I read that she was even considering a replacement, but I can't remember for sure. But, my god, she's in her mid-late 50s! Does anybody really expect her to look as she did in her 20s and 30s? I think the big difference between Stevie in 1993 and now is that she doesn't look sick. In fact, Stevie didn't look like herself in 1993. She looked like Mary Travers, who's at least ten years older than Stevie and has had children.

LiquidBlue5000 · #27 04-16-2005, 03:52 PM

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But a LOT of people do blow up. It happened to me in my grad school days, and I was probably at my most physically active. I would walk my dog all over the campus of the Ohio State University, which I believe is the largest campus in the USA. After I got my dog (about three months after I started grad school), I moved into an apartment, and my diet subsequently improved greatly. It didn't matter. I looked as bloated as ever, I was hardly able to get out of bed some days, I was moody and irrational, and I couldn't stop sweating. And, I stayed bloated for about a year or so after taking myself off those drugs. These drugs play havoc with the body and are a sonuvabeyoch to get off of, which is why I look at that period for Stevie rather sympathetically.

I have no doubt they play havoc with the body and screw up metabolism and what not... but when you're in the public eye like Stevie is and have tons of money, things can be done..

GateandGarden · #28 04-16-2005, 04:58 PM

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I have no doubt they play havoc with the body and screw up metabolism and what not... but when you're in the public eye like Stevie is and have tons of money, things can be done..

True, but I just don't see why anyone wants that. To me she's such a natural beauty that she can't really go wrong. If I had to pick a time that I personally thought she looked the worst, it wouldn't be '93 but some of the footage and pics I've seen from the '70s, when she had tons of illegal drugs in her. And there were times during that same period when she was skinny to an unhealthy extent. To me, that's worse.

LiquidBlue5000 · #29 04-16-2005, 05:15 PM

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True, but I just don't see why anyone wants that. To me she's such a natural beauty that she can't really go wrong. If I had to pick a time that I personally thought she looked the worst, it wouldn't be '93 but some of the footage and pics I've seen from the '70s, when she had tons of illegal drugs in her. And there were times during that same period when she was skinny to an unhealthy extent. To me, that's worse.

She never looked better than in 1997, imo... everything came together for her and it worked... but she has put weight on since then and it's noticeable.. she still looks great, though... regardless of her age..

strandinthewind · #30 04-16-2005, 06:10 PM

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She never looked better than in 1997, imo... everything came together for her and it worked... but she has put weight on since then and it's noticeable.. she still looks great, though... regardless of her age..

Other than the BD era, I agree. AND - she was not that rail thin for The Dance. But, I think rail thin is not really the best look for a woman her age - In the end, I think she was beautiful during all era including SA. I just think she was not too happy with herself then and it showed.