Lily Girl - Page 2

strandinthewind · #16 04-15-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower

Yes, the song is a piece of ****. But, you've got to give her a little bit of a break. All she was doing was taking prerecorded Kenny G tracks and adding cut-and-paste-journal lyrics and trying to make a melody out of it. I mean, come on- it's Kenny G fer chrissakes!!!

ALL of the songs from those Kenny G sessions suck ass. I think there are four of them, yes? "Tragedy of One's Own Soul" is just as abysmal as this one.

Despite the onset of Klonopin-itis, I think Stevie realized how ****ty this stuff was and wisely moved on to IMO one of her best efforts, The Other Side of the Mirror.

. . . and at least she is trying to sing it in some melodic fashion. Plus, this is a demo and not a finished product. Thus, it should be judged as such. Finally, those lyrics are not that great - but to her credit, she apparently realized or there was some other reason for not using the song.

amber · #17 04-15-2005, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind

. . . and at least she is trying to sing it in some melodic fashion. Plus, this is a demo and not a finished product. Thus, it should be judged as such. Finally, those lyrics are not that great - but to her credit, she apparently realized or there was some other reason for not using the song.

I wonder if Stevie would be mad that everyone has heard the demos of songs she thought were way to crappy to release. I would be, kinda. It's like someone catching you naked when you sooooo didn't want them to. Oh, and it's also like you look crappy naked at said time...

skcin · #18 04-15-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

I wonder if Stevie would be mad that everyone has heard the demos of songs she thought were way to crappy to release. I would be, kinda. It's like someone catching you naked when you sooooo didn't want them to. Oh, and it's also like you look crappy naked at said time...

She has commented about this in the past - that she was really pissed when they were stolen/went missing/whatev & that she doesn't want fans to hear songs until she's completely finished with them.

But on the TISL tour she said about POTU "some of you may have heard this song a long time ago & that's OK" so I think she's kind of figures there's nothing she can do about it years after the fact.

amber · #19 04-15-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

She has commented about this in the past - that she was really pissed when they were stolen/went missing/whatev & that she doesn't want fans to hear songs until she's completely finished with them.

But on the TISL tour she said about POTU "some of you may have heard this song a long time ago & that's OK" so I think she's kind of figures there's nothing she can do about it years after the fact.

yeah. But still. I wonder if she cringes when she herself hears some of her demos. I mean, POTU is good, so that's different...

GateandGarden · #20 04-15-2005, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

yeah. But still. I wonder if she cringes when she herself hears some of her demos. I mean, POTU is good, so that's different...

Yeah, it's like I could forgive people hearing "POTU." But some of those others are like poems I've written that I never want to see the light of day.

gldstwmn · #21 04-15-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by golden braid

Lily Tragedy of One's Own Soul

Isn't it the same melody with different lyrics?

gldstwmn · #22 04-15-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MacMan

Yeah.. This is one for the shelf... But I actually like Dial The Number.

"What would I do?!!!" Love it.

dissention · #23 04-15-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin

She has commented about this in the past - that she was really pissed when they were stolen/went missing/whatev & that she doesn't want fans to hear songs until she's completely finished with them.

She should be grateful to whoever stole them and leaked them out. She wouldn't have such a rabid and devoted fan base without them. I don't think she realizes how much her "underground" material has contributed to her career.

ELIUD · #24 04-15-2005, 01:31 PM

With few exceptions, I really don't like any of her demos. But for the most part, I've only listened to the ones that have completed versions released on albums. What I like about listening to the demos is discovering how much of the body of the final song Stevie came up with herself, i.e. the melody or the piano part of the song. Beauty and the Beast, Sisters of the Moon are a couple good examples. But most often when I hear a Stevie Nicks demo I generally prefer the final version MUCH more.

GateandGarden · #25 04-15-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ELIUD

With few exceptions, I really don't like any of her demos. But for the most part, I've only listened to the ones that have completed versions released on albums.

Well, in that case, there are quite a few you haven't heard, so I don't know how you can say you "really don't like any of her demos" with a few exceptions and such if you've heard so few of them.

amber · #26 04-15-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Well, in that case, there are quite a few you haven't heard, so I don't know how you can say you "really don't like any of her demos" with a few exceptions and such if you've heard so few of them.

I've heard some that haven't been published - and I rarely like her demos, either. But I do like some of her Demos of things she has recorded. And? my favorite thing that hasn't been released (right? it hasn't?) is Cathouse blues. it's soooo darling.

GateandGarden · #27 04-15-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

I've heard some that haven't been published - and I rarely like her demos, either. But I do like some of her Demos of things she has recorded. And? my favorite thing that hasn't been released (right? it hasn't?) is Cathouse blues. it's soooo darling.

Which of the demos of unreleased songs do you like? (Besides "Cathouse Blues")

GateandGarden · #28 04-15-2005, 08:52 PM

Okay, so I finally downloaded "Lily Girl." I think y'all built me up and I wound up being disappointed, because I don't think it's as bad as you said. I like it more than "Desert Angel" and even "I Miss You." I still think it's bad, but I figure it probably isn't her worst demo. I think I like it more than "Don't Treat Me Like a Stranger."

that I don't have unbridled hatred for it.

amber · #29 04-15-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Which of the demos of unreleased songs do you like? (Besides "Cathouse Blues")

That's just it - I can't think of a demo of an unreleased song that I like. I dont' really have or have heard as many as most people, though. Uh...24 Karat comes to mind, She Calls You Missing....I think I heard...Juliet? and didn't really like it...oh, I like My Heart ok. not great, but I think it's releasable, with some work. I surely like it better than Silver Girl, and Illume, and, well, even better than a few of her published songs...the vocal is strainy in some parts, though, that would have to be worked out. Amber sucks a$$, but that was a long time ago...Cathouse blues is awesome, it should be released.

GateandGarden · #30 04-15-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by amber

That's just it - I can't think of a demo of an unreleased song that I like. I dont' really have or have heard as many as most people, though. Uh...24 Karat comes to mind, She Calls You Missing....I think I heard...Juliet? and didn't really like it...oh, I like My Heart ok. not great, but I think it's releasable, with some work. I surely like it better than Silver Girl, and Illume, and, well, even better than a few of her published songs...the vocal is strainy in some parts, though, that would have to be worked out. Amber sucks a$$, but that was a long time ago...

I haven't listed to "24 Karat." Maybe I should, since it's on SaraRhiannon.com right now. I haven't heard "She Calls You Missing" yet, either. "Juliet" was officially released.

Did you mean "Julia"? I like "My Heart" all right. I like her vocals on it for the most part. That's generally what it does for me 'cause I'm not so big on the music or lyrics. I agree that "Amber" isn't a good one.

But, "The Dealer" is one of my fave Stevie songs, even pitted against those that have been released. I'm also in love with "Belle Fleur" and "Julia," which I mentioned already. Aside from those, I like "Sanctuary" and "If You Were My Love" is okay. I think that's about it, though. There have been several (and I can't remember the names of them all) that I've downloaded and then just deleted because I heard them once and didn't really want to hear them again.