Asia Disaster Photos (some GRAPHIC)

[tynan88]

Thats very good Lux, I m religious though and believe as hard as it is sometimes everything has its place. By India Indians too I think it is meant as oppposed to Native Americans, as not much is taught about them I think.

These photos are very hard to see knowing my grandparents spend so much time in Thailand, we have a strong connection to Thailand, my uncle who died in February had lived in Thailand for last ten years with his boyfriend, I suspect he died of AIDS related diseases but no one will tell me, but so yer, I feel in particular a strong connection with Thailand, as do most Australians with this region, I mean Australia is in Asia! We are part of this, if this Earthquake had happened a bit further south (I mean even fourty fifty kilometres), it coulda possibly wiped out Perth on our west coast, a large city.

Tynan

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by Jessica Leigh

simply terrible... absolutely awful..... but honestly i believe these things happen for a reason... either to control overpopulation or something.... God has some plan.... even though we may not understand it.... i feel awful for these people- maybe this catastrophe is to teach people (such as the India indians) a lesson; subscribe to the tsunami warning thing based in hawaii.... they would have known about the tsunami 90 mins before it hit....

has anyone seen the satellite photos from right before the tsunami hit? its waves and masses of swirly white foam are crazy.... i grew up in Socal (5 miles inland) and have seen my share of swirly white foam from the ocean... but these tsunami photos are crazy scary....

I haven't seen the satellite photos (if you have a link, could you post?) but 12:00am Sunday, leaving my uncle's house after Christmas stuff, I said "HOLY. ****." I am a big astronomy person so i'm constantly looking at the moon,stars, etc. At the time I walked outside, the moon was directly overhead and there was a HUGE ring around the moon--very bizarre. We all stood there for a few moments and stared at it. I didn't think much more about it at the time other than the fact that it was pretty odd but now i'm wondering if it wasn't an effect of the tsumani and earthquakes that probably would have been occuring at that time over in Asia. Anyone else see the ring around the moon that evening?

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I haven't seen the satellite photos (if you have a link, could you post?) but 12:00am Sunday, leaving my uncle's house after Christmas stuff, I said "HOLY. ****." I am a big astronomy person so i'm constantly looking at the moon,stars, etc. At the time I walked outside, the moon was directly overhead and there was a HUGE ring around the moon--very bizarre. We all stood there for a few moments and stared at it. I didn't think much more about it at the time other than the fact that it was pretty odd but now i'm wondering if it wasn't an effect of the tsumani and earthquakes that probably would have been occuring at that time over in Asia. Anyone else see the ring around the moon that evening?

Wow... I didn't see that.

View Before Tsunami Image

View Tsunami Image


Pip

[skcin]

Originally Posted by Lux

On a more relevant note, I don't want to actually look at the pictures. Like many people can't watch the footage from NY, I can't look at pictures of it hitting knowing that those dwellings are/were full of people.

I can't either Lux. I don't want to hide from the reality of this tragedy, but there is a limit to what the human mind can take, IMO.

BTW, some Americans do refer to "Native Americans" by their traditional names (Cherokee, Seneca, etc.) But you're right, most don't.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

Wow... I didn't see that.

View Before Tsunami Image

View Tsunami Image


Pip

That totally blows my mind--I cannot even fathom that. The power of nature, although devistating, truly is amazing. I mean, the speed at which a tsunami travels---the fact that it would take a mere 24 hours to travel from one side of the Pacific to the other (they were saying that on a news program) is absolutely insane.

[heyjupiter678]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I haven't seen the satellite photos (if you have a link, could you post?) but 12:00am Sunday, leaving my uncle's house after Christmas stuff, I said "HOLY. ****." I am a big astronomy person so i'm constantly looking at the moon,stars, etc. At the time I walked outside, the moon was directly overhead and there was a HUGE ring around the moon--very bizarre. We all stood there for a few moments and stared at it. I didn't think much more about it at the time other than the fact that it was pretty odd but now i'm wondering if it wasn't an effect of the tsumani and earthquakes that probably would have been occuring at that time over in Asia. Anyone else see the ring around the moon that evening?

I did. I was leaving to go to a party Christmas night and as soon as I stepped outside I noticed the ring around the moon. Like you guys, my mom and I stared at it for a few moments then went and got into the car. A couple minutes later, my brother finally joined us in the car and the first thing out of his mouth was, "Did you see that ring around the moon?" It was very strange -- we'd never seen anything like it.

[wondergirl9847]

Interesting about the moon, wish I had seen that.

Anyways, these things (tsunami, war, etc.) are discussed in the Bible...read Revelations. Bad things will happen in the end times, and I feel we are in them right now. I know lots of people think that's a crock, but I believe it.

My grandfather use to tell my mom things when she was a kid about how in the future, people wouldn't need money anymore, they would have cards with information on them (we are going towards that now with debit cards) and just various things about what he felt would happen in the future. He said these things in the 60's. My grandfather was a very interesting man and he died way too young of a heart attack when I was 6. I wish I could have known him better and talked to him about stuff.

[heyjupiter678]

Originally Posted by Lux

I dare say it's got more to do with plate tectonics than with a God, but if it did, well that's reason enough to abandon all faith. A god who's plan it is to kill more than 100 000 people?

At least one-third of whom are children. That's a hell of a plan.

[GardenStateGirlie]

Originally Posted by heyjupiter678

I did. I was leaving to go to a party Christmas night and as soon as I stepped outside I noticed the ring around the moon. Like you guys, my mom and I stared at it for a few moments then went and got into the car. A couple minutes later, my brother finally joined us in the car and the first thing out of his mouth was, "Did you see that ring around the moon?" It was very strange -- we'd never seen anything like it.

I think i'll check out a few places to find whether or not the earthquake and tsunami were the cause. Didn't they say that Earth's movement was effected? (I think I remember hearing that but I may be wrong).

[Gypsy-Rhiannon]

Originally Posted by GardenStateGirlie

I think i'll check out a few places to find whether or not the earthquake and tsunami were the cause. Didn't they say that Earth's movement was effected? (I think I remember hearing that but I may be wrong).

Yes.. I'm sure I read that somewhere

[wondergirl9847]

Miracle girl survives tsunami on a door

Wed Dec 29,12:35 PM ET

NEW DELHI, India (AFP) - Meghan Rajshekhar, 13, disappeared along with 77 other people when the giant tsunami struck an Indian air force base by the sea on the remote Car Nicobar island.


Locals found her walking in a daze along the beach on Tuesday after clinging to a door on the stormy seas for two days, the Hindustan Times reported Wednesday.

The air force officer's daughter and her parents were swept away along with countless thousands others as a massive earthquake off neighbouring Indonesia sent tsunami crashing across the Indian ocean.

"She told defence personnel that she had cried out 11 times when choppers hovered over the ocean in search of survivors on Sunday," the daily quoted a flight lieutenant Bhandarkar as saying.

"No one spotted her."

But Meghna, badly bruised, told rescuers she knew which direction land lay and just kept floating on towards the shore.

"In the end it was the waves that washed so many thousands of others away that washed her ashore," the Hindustan Times said.

"This was a miracle in the midst of the disaster the tsunami wrought," the air base station commander V. V. Bandhopadhyay told the Press Trust of India.

The miracle girl also had to keep an eye out for numerous sea snakes.

Meghna was taken to the Andamans capital Port Blair and on to relatives in Hyderabad after medical treatment, Lieutenant Governor Ram Kapse said.

"Her parents, sadly, haven't survived."

The 76 others are still reported missing.

PTI said 100 people perished at the base.

At least 4,000 lost their lives on the Andamans chain of 572 islands, but many thousands more are feared dead, officials say, as rescuers struggle to reach remote islands.

Car Nicobar was very badly hit and the air base severely damaged.

The Nicobar group lies about 150 kilometres (90 miles) from Sumatra.

The Andamans, 1,200 kilometres (745 miles) from mainland India, are spread over 800 kilometres (500 miles) with a population of about 350,000.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

Interesting about the moon, wish I had seen that.

Anyways, these things (tsunami, war, etc.) are discussed in the Bible...read Revelations. Bad things will happen in the end times, and I feel we are in them right now. I know lots of people think that's a crock, but I believe it.

My grandfather use to tell my mom things when she was a kid about how in the future, people wouldn't need money anymore, they would have cards with information on them (we are going towards that now with debit cards) and just various things about what he felt would happen in the future. He said these things in the 60's. My grandfather was a very interesting man and he died way too young of a heart attack when I was 6. I wish I could have known him better and talked to him about stuff.

I agree - The Bible is replete with stories of these things happening in the end times. But, all scientists are saying that although this incident is horrible, there has been no increase in the number of events in the last few years. So, if there are to be more in the end times, then this event and the events of the last few decades, while certainly horrible and catastrophic, are not out of the ordinary

Note: Christy - I know you know I am not belittling your beliefs by saying this - I am just pointing out that there has, as of yet, been no increase. What the future holds - well no one but God can tell that - thus, your point

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon

Yes.. I'm sure I read that somewhere

Yes, the earths movement was microscopically and insignificantly affected - basically because the earthquake made the Earth more compact. This is not a huge thing and it ordinarily happens in large quakes like this one

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

You mean like Sept 11 happened for a reason? I dare say it's got more to do with plate tectonics than with a God, but if it did, well that's reason enough to abandon all faith. A god who's plan it is to kill more than 100 000 people? I thought those supreme beings were more to do with love and nurturing than drowning and crushing. I'm not trying to discredit religion at a time like this, in fact I'm actually speaking up for this God people talk about. I mean, I'm sure if it existed it wouldn't want to be accused of planning to kill masses of people.

The logic behind the comparison of a natural disater to the unnatural events of 9/11 is specious. Nature has for years run its course and cannot for the most part be controlled. Man made events, on the other hand, can be controlled

But, I, as always, getr your point - which my getting should qualify us for being frightened

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

What the future holds - well no one but God can tell that - thus, your point

Exactly, we have no way of knowing what His plans are.