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Old 12-06-2004, 12:25 PM
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Oh, my own sweet f**. You gotta study up on your scientific and cultural history!!! You don't have to believe in the bible to think there was a worldwide flood. You just gotta look at the archeaology, et al.
Worldwide floods aside - I think those shows are just really interesting and fun - I used to watch all those Nostradomus (sp?) specials they'd have (inevitably around the change of the year) and they scared the crap outta me - but I didn't take them seriously - I just like that they can freak me out a little and are entertaining - though I'm usually aware of how ridiculous these things usually are...it's like horror flicks - they freak me out but i Know they're not real
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Old 12-06-2004, 12:32 PM
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I don't believe there was a world wide flood either. But hey, I believe in evolution so....
I believe in evolution, too. They're not mutually exclusive. Almost every culture has a flood myth, and there is also scientific/anthropological/geographic evidence. But, obviously y'all haven't seen as much of it as i have. So it's irritating to argue about it. IT'S CALLED SCIENCE, PEOPLE!!!
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Worldwide floods aside - I think those shows are just really interesting and fun - I used to watch all those Nostradomus (sp?) specials they'd have (inevitably around the change of the year) and they scared the crap outta me - but I didn't take them seriously - I just like that they can freak me out a little and are entertaining - though I'm usually aware of how ridiculous these things usually are...it's like horror flicks - they freak me out but i Know they're not real
Yes, i love those too, but i was talking about real science books and real science shows! dagnabbit!!!
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IT'S CALLED SCIENCE, PEOPLE!!!
Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one.
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Yes, i love those too, but i was talking about real science books and real science shows! dagnabbit!!!

No - I know that - and I didn't even see the Bible Codes special - or any thing on cable recently...lol - I was just sayin' I enjoy creepy shows....

Also - I know what you're saying about the flood - I don't know all that much about the Earth's history sadly...but yeah...rock on.
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Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one.
I didn't say i believed the bible version! That's totally different! Well, not totally different, but that's just one story..If anyone ever wants to read Fingerprints of the Gods, by Graham Hancock, that's an interesting start. And, no, it's not about the bible at all.
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Then describe how we all came to be if everyone else was killed and left only with Noah, his wife, and his kids......


I know in the Bible it says that his three sons peopled the whole Earth. I guess that is more from faith, cuz science sure can't explain that one.
How did the entire world come to be with just Adam and Eve? We assume (well, *I* assume) that they had lots more children than we know about and obviously they had to have had *ahem* relations with each other. LOL Unless God provided them with spouses, which I doubt.

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Old 12-06-2004, 01:28 PM
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When the world ends...God said we will know the mysteries of the universe.
Well that'd be cool I wouldn't mind knowing the mysteries of the universe
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Old 12-06-2004, 01:41 PM
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"I just trip out on how a lot of cultures around the world think the same things, and have theories, and whatnot. Have you seen shows on how every culture has a flood story?"

I do, too. The flood story though was passed along orally and probably other cultures copied it.
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"I just trip out on how a lot of cultures around the world think the same things, and have theories, and whatnot. Have you seen shows on how every culture has a flood story?"

I do, too. The flood story though was passed along orally and probably other cultures copied it.
I don't think so. Cultures that had minimal if any contact with others have the story. There is scientific geographical evidence. but, hey whatever...
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okay, but from everything i've read, and seen things about, i think there was a worldwide flood. You know, scientific evidence and all that?
Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.
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Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.
okay. I know other things. But rock on...
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Is there scientific evidence of a world wide flood? From a scientific standpoint, if there was a catastrophic flood thousands of years ago which wiped out nearly all life on Earth, there would be a large fossil bed that contained all the species that existed on Earth at the time, rather than several layers of fossil beds which contained different species.

As far as many cultures having a flood myth, it's typical of newer cultures, or neighboring cultures to borrow creation, and other stories and adapt or incorporate them into their own customs.
Well, there is and there is not There is evidence of a HUGE event happening thousands of years ago (actually evidence exists to support a few such events over the last several million years) - Many think the event was an asteroid hitting the Earth and causing the Earth to shift a few degrees on her axis - thus causing the formerly floral Sarah Desert to form. Here are some sites - take them for what you will and there are more if you google, etc.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4168.asp

http://www.myfortress.org/archaeology.html

http://www.thinkquest.org/library/si...78/noahand.htm

http://www.icr.org/creationproducts/...th2FFlood.html

Again, there are MANY theories on this
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Have you seen the stuff about the newer theory of how old the sphinx really is? It has massive water erosion consistent only with tropical, wet weather, which, of course, Egypt did not have post about 10,000 years ago (I think it's 10,000, i forgot exactly). Anyway, it's been on all the science shows that talk about that stuff, and of course in Graham Hancocks book. Anywhoo....
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Have you seen the stuff about the newer theory of how old the sphinx really is? It has massive water erosion consistent only with tropical, wet weather, which, of course, Egypt did not have post about 10,000 years ago (I think it's 10,000, i forgot exactly). Anyway, it's been on all the science shows that talk about that stuff, and of course in Graham Hancocks book. Anywhoo....
Many respectable scientists have refuted the theory of the sphinx and done demonstrations showing that the erosion patterns can and most likely were caused by sand. I've seen some of the shows you are talking about also, and some of them also suggest that the Egyptians did not have the technology to create the pyramids and other monuments, therefore Aliens must have been responsible. Often these "science" programs cast well know, respected celebrities as hosts to help lend crediblility to their claims. I don't remember which one, but it may have been the sphynx one, featured Charleton Heston (Moses)! Unfortunately many people see these celebs and conciously or subconsiously think "It's Moses, so it must be true" I think people need to understand the difference between Pseudoscience and Science.
I recommend the book "Pseudoscience, Superstition, and other Confusions of Our Time" by Stephen Jay Gould. It's an interesting read no matter what your stand point on the issue is.
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