A Dirty Shame!!

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by amber

Um, isn't there singing, bad makeup, and unattractive people who do gross things in them? Maybe i'm thinking of something else....I don't much like camp, rarely singing in movies, and ugly people? with bad makeup? doing gross things? ehhhh.....But please, tell me if I'm wrong, or if it's so funny that I could not live without seeing it...
AMber

Ummm ... most of the "offensive" things you listed can be found right here on this board. (Except for the singing ... but I'm sure that will be in the next software update.) Ugly unattractive people in bad makeup doing gross things -- that's basically Dissention in a nutshell - did you hear what he wore to the Live in Boston taping???

(Yes, I'm kidding again, especially about Diss... The subject of John Waters just puts me in a VERY weird mood.)

In all honesty, most John Waters movies are not for the faint at heart, or for that matter for anyone with any morals whatsoever. I'd call them social satires, but thickly frosted with gross-out humor and plenty of "do-you-think-we-can-get-away-with-putting-this-on-film" moments. For instance, in "Pink Flamingos", Divine (a morbidly obese drag queen) eats a freshly laid pile of real dog doo. No, I'm not kidding. But yes, after I finished suppressing my gag reflex to NOT thow up, I did laugh long and hard.

Some people are physical daredevils, some people are chemical daredevils, some people are sexual daredevils, etc. JW just mixes them all together in a big pot and tries to offend as many people as possible in the process. I guess it's an acquired taste.

But you only live once, right?

[sparky]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

That's awesome!! I love Mink Stole...she is my favorite in all the movies...don't know why - I have just always liked her....it's amusing that she goes to Curves...

Not only does she go there, but she was stunned and amazed that people recognized her and wanted to talk to her. About 7 years ago, I rented a house that she had just looked at in the same neighborhood as Curves. Very small world. By all accounts, she is humble and totally cool....

[sparky]

Originally Posted by amber

Um, isn't there singing, bad makeup, and unattractive people who do gross things in them? Maybe i'm thinking of something else....I don't much like camp, rarely singing in movies, and ugly people? with bad makeup? doing gross things? ehhhh.....But please, tell me if I'm wrong, or if it's so funny that I could not live without seeing it...
AMber

Well, AMber, it takes a certain kind of sense of humor. If you like it, you love it. If you don't like it, you just shake your head and walk away. I say it is worth renting Desperate Living at your local video store...(an indy...Blockbuster would NOT carry it). If you think Dissention, Strand or I are remotely funny in our cynical and off beat way....you might get a few laughs out of it. Do you think drag queens are funny ? How about Dame Edna ? Those are both a pretty good litmus test.

[amber]

Originally Posted by sparky

Well, AMber, it takes a certain kind of sense of humor. If you like it, you love it. If you don't like it, you just shake your head and walk away. I say it is worth renting Desperate Living at your local video store...(an indy...Blockbuster would NOT carry it). If you think Dissention, Strand or I are remotely funny in our cynical and off beat way....you might get a few laughs out of it. Do you think drag queens are funny ? How about Dame Edna ? Those are both a pretty good litmus test.

They're ok - it depends on if they say something clever and witty - i'm not easily offended - except by bad writing. I tend to not like "ugly" things (like morbidly obese people in bad makeup eating poo) but if it's witty - like, i like southpark, but that's a cartoon, isn't it? So, it's not really that i'll be offended, it's more like i'm scared i'll be very aesthetically displeased... Plus, too much singing in a movie? Bleah. (unless it's grease, or cabaret, or there is REALLY good dancing going with it.) I guess i should check one out, they sound pretty good. I mean, i've seen All About Eve and Party Girl, like 15 times, surely I can take the time for John Waters, right?
Amber (by the way, y'all don't have to type my name like this - AMber - it's just a finger mistake i make )

[sparky]

Originally Posted by amber

They're ok - it depends on if they say something clever and witty - i'm not easily offended - except by bad writing. I tend to not like "ugly" things (like morbidly obese people in bad makeup eating poo) but if it's witty - like, i like southpark, but that's a cartoon, isn't it? So, it's not really that i'll be offended, it's more like i'm scared i'll be very aesthetically displeased... Plus, too much singing in a movie? Bleah. (unless it's grease, or cabaret, or there is REALLY good dancing going with it.) I guess i should check one out, they sound pretty good. I mean, i've seen All About Eve and Party Girl, like 15 times, surely I can take the time for John Waters, right?
Amber (by the way, y'all don't have to type my name like this - AMber - it's just a finger mistake i make )

But, AMber, it is so distincitive that I cannot seem to help myself

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

They're ok - it depends on if they say something clever and witty - i'm not easily offended - except by bad writing. I tend to not like "ugly" things (like morbidly obese people in bad makeup eating poo) but if it's witty - like, i like southpark, but that's a cartoon, isn't it? So, it's not really that i'll be offended, it's more like i'm scared i'll be very aesthetically displeased... Plus, too much singing in a movie? Bleah. (unless it's grease, or cabaret, or there is REALLY good dancing going with it.) I guess i should check one out, they sound pretty good. I mean, i've seen All About Eve and Party Girl, like 15 times, surely I can take the time for John Waters, right?
Amber (by the way, y'all don't have to type my name like this - AMber - it's just a finger mistake i make )

With the exception of Cry-Baby, no Waters movie has any singing in it.

His movies are an acquired taste and you have to have an open mind when you watch them. They're mostly all low budget (the old ones especially), are kinda grainy and discolored, and don't have big stars in them; he made them with friends in Baltimore.

My advice would be to check out some newer Waters flicks before you dive into his old ones from the seventies. Serial Mom (Kathleen Turner is a hoot), Pecker (rent it just for Memama), and Cecil B. Demented (I love Melanie Griffith in this one) are nasty, but nowhere near as nasty as the old movies. Don't watch any of them around kids, they'll be scarred for life.

After you've seen those, try his old movies. My personal favorite is Desperate Living and if you don't find it hysterical, I won't know what to think. Female Trouble is hilarious, too, but that's incredibly hard to find on video, it's really only available on DVD. Don't watch Pink Flamingos unless you have a very strong stomach because, while hilarious, some of the **** in that movie is sickening (I programmed my DVD player to skip over the chicken scene). You might like Polyester, too; the music is by Debbie Harry and Chris Stein. But don't watch it unless you have an Odor-Rama card!

Also, if you're feeling adventurous, FYE is getting rid of videos throughout their entire chain and the four stores around here have the "John Waters Collection" for $15; they probably have it near you. It's got Pink Flamingos, Desperate Living, Polyester, and Hairspray.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Nixxxed

Ugly unattractive people in bad makeup doing gross things -- that's basically Dissention in a nutshell - did you hear what he wore to the Live in Boston taping???

I take offense to that. Don't knock leather pants unless you've worn them, pal.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

With the exception of Cry-Baby, no Waters movie has any singing in it.

His movies are an acquired taste and you have to have an open mind when you watch them. They're mostly all low budget (the old ones especially), are kinda grainy and discolored, and don't have big stars in them; he made them with friends in Baltimore.

My advice would be to check out some newer Waters flicks before you dive into his old ones from the seventies. Serial Mom (Kathleen Turner is a hoot), Pecker (rent it just for Memama), and Cecil B. Demented (I love Melanie Griffith in this one) are nasty, but nowhere near as nasty as the old movies. Don't watch any of them around kids, they'll be scarred for life.

After you've seen those, try his old movies. My personal favorite is Desperate Living and if you don't find it hysterical, I won't know what to think. Female Trouble is hilarious, too, but that's incredibly hard to find on video, it's really only available on DVD. Don't watch Pink Flamingos unless you have a very strong stomach because, while hilarious, some of the **** in that movie is sickening (I programmed my DVD player to skip over the chicken scene). You might like Polyester, too; the music is by Debbie Harry and Chris Stein. But don't watch it unless you have an Odor-Rama card!

Also, if you're feeling adventurous, FYE is getting rid of videos throughout their entire chain and the four stores around here have the "John Waters Collection" for $15; they probably have it near you. It's got Pink Flamingos, Desperate Living, Polyester, and Hairspray.

This description and advice is perfect for me. ok, i remember i wanted to see serial mom anyway, just never got around to it. Only cry baby has singing, check (that must be the one i saw part of) Then watch desperate living. Pink Flamingos is probably to sickening for me, got it. May need to see polyester at least because of Chris and Debbie, check. I don't know if we have an FYE, but that sure is a good price!
Thanks Diss, preciate it
Amber

[Nixxxed]

Originally Posted by dissention

I take offense to that. Don't knock leather pants unless you've worn them, pal.

Do assless leather chaps and a leather dog collar count?

[amber]

Originally Posted by Nixxxed

Do assless leather chaps and a leather dog collar count?

no, you really need the ass in them to truly understand.... But they sure count for something!

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by dissention

My advice would be to check out some newer Waters flicks before you dive into his old ones from the seventies. Serial Mom (Kathleen Turner is a hoot), Pecker (rent it just for Memama), and Cecil B. Demented (I love Melanie Griffith in this one) are nasty, but nowhere near as nasty as the old movies. Don't watch any of them around kids, they'll be scarred for life.

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That is good advice - I wish someone would have given me that advice...but I was with a group of friends - all of whom just decided at random to rent movies with Divine in them - I'd never heard of John Waters or Divine...and my first exposure was a night of Lust in the Dust (not that bad), Female Trouble and Pink Flamingos....that was six years ago....only the other night was I able to watch Female Trouble again and appreciate it for what it is....

So as I was totally shocked and quite disturbed upon seeing them for the first time, I've totally found the entertainment value...and enjoy a John Waters flick now and again

[sparky]

Originally Posted by dissention

Also, if you're feeling adventurous, FYE is getting rid of videos throughout their entire chain and the four stores around here have the "John Waters Collection" for $15; they probably have it near you. It's got Pink Flamingos, Desperate Living, Polyester, and Hairspray.

Great tip ! Is FYE the name of the store ? I have never heard of them, but that is a bargain I want to get in on !