The Ledge

Go Back   The Ledge > Main Forums > Chit Chat
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar


Make the Ads Go Away! Click here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 06-21-2004, 06:34 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I think that Clinton's analysis here and in the CNN quote is true. I think that the news source is irrelevant. We are talking about direct quotes here. I think what Clinton says is pretty much is exactly what has happened and is happening in Iraq. I just take him at his word. But, the far left cannot do the same because to do so would be to give W a litle credit for something and that just cannot ever happen in their world.
Apologist/enabler.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-21-2004, 07:21 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Apologist/enabler.
Once again, when presented with facts, all I get in a rebuttal is an in general personal attack Just admit it, I am right here. The facts totally support me and you all know it. Yet, I can readily admit when I am wrong.

BTW - who am I apologizing for - Clinton and Kerry - I am quoting them.
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-21-2004, 07:59 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Once again, when presented with facts, all I get in a rebuttal is an in general personal attack Just admit it, I am right here. The facts totally support me and you all know it. Yet, I can readily admit when I am wrong.

BTW - who am I apologizing for - Clinton and Kerry - I am quoting them.
Again, here is the unedited version of it and of course dear, my apologies for hurting your feelings.

CNN didn't post the whole quote. The full Clinton quote is:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...=1896&ncid=1473

Bush Timing on Iraq Was Wrong, Clinton Says

Sun Jun 20, 7:29 AM ET

NEW YORK (Reuters) - President Bush made the right decision to go after Saddam Hussein but the timing of the invasion was wrong, Bill Clinton said in an interview with Time magazine released on Sunday.

"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq (news - web sites), even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," the former president said.

"I would not have done it until after (former U.N. chief weapons inspector) Hans Blix finished his job."

Clinton spoke to Time days before the release of his memoirs, "My Life," on Tuesday. It was his first print interview as part of the high-profile publicity campaign.

"We went in there because (Bush) bought the Wolfowitz-Cheney analysis that the Iraqis would be better off, we could shake up the authoritarian Arab regimes in the Middle East, and our leverage to make peace between the Palestinians and Israelis would be increased," Clinton told Time.

The results have been mixed so far, he said.

"I think right now, getting rid of Saddam's tyranny, ironically, has made Iraq more vulnerable to terrorism coming from in the outside," Clinton said. "But any open society is going to be more vulnerable than any tyranny to that."

During a two-hour interview conducted on Thursday, Clinton also touched on his affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky and his battle with independent counsel Ken Starr.

"I was involved in two great struggles at the same time: a great public struggle over the future of America with the Republican Congress and a private struggle with my old demons.

"I won the public one and lost the private one," Clinton said. "I don't think it's much more complicated than that."

Of Starr, Clinton said the special prosecutor represented "the new right that runs the Washington Republican Party."

"This was not about evidence. This was about a struggle for power. I think that they really saw us as usurpers. They thought the only reason they lost the election to Jimmy Carter was Watergate," he said.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-21-2004, 08:02 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

LOL - no harm no foul - it has been a crappy day. I threw my back out yesterday. Much of today has ben spent in bed. BUT, the bright side is I played hookie from work!!!!!
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-21-2004, 08:54 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by strandinthewind
LOL - no harm no foul - it has been a crappy day. I threw my back out yesterday.
I am sorry to hear that.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-21-2004, 08:57 PM
strandinthewind's Avatar
strandinthewind strandinthewind is offline
Addicted Ledgie
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: New York City
Posts: 25,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gldstwmn
I am sorry to hear that.
Thanks - it is better now. Let me just say I am not in love with getting older!!!!!!
__________________
Photobucket

save the cheerleader - save the world
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-21-2004, 11:18 PM
gldstwmn's Avatar
gldstwmn gldstwmn is offline
Addicted Ledgie
Supporting Ledgie
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Drowning in the sea of La Mer
Posts: 19,490
Default

Acceptance goes a long way in making things better with that. Look at Stevie.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


1970s Pop, Bob Brunning picture

1970s Pop, Bob Brunning

$5.40



1970s Pop - Hardcover By Brunning, Bob - GOOD picture

1970s Pop - Hardcover By Brunning, Bob - GOOD

$3.40



Fleetwood Mac : The First 30 Years Paperback Bob Brunning picture

Fleetwood Mac : The First 30 Years Paperback Bob Brunning

$6.66



Bob Brunning Sound Trackers Music Series Hardcover 6 Book Lot Pop, Metal, Reggae picture

Bob Brunning Sound Trackers Music Series Hardcover 6 Book Lot Pop, Metal, Reggae

$59.99



Heavy Metal by Bob Brunning - Hardcover 1999 - VERY GOOD picture

Heavy Metal by Bob Brunning - Hardcover 1999 - VERY GOOD

$8.44




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved