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dissention · #**256** 09-01-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Wellllllllllllll (as Stevie would say when she doesn't know exactly what else to say) I don't think I'm ready to get into a big discussion about it (and that's just a general statement--not directed at you) but I have problems with

this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22065

and this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22097

That should give a general idea, anyway.

Well, I don't know what to tell you.

This is a private board and if the owners want the rules to be enforced after quite a long period of "anything goes," it's up to them. I wouldn't be up in arms because someone requested me to post "f*cking" instead of "****ing," and I wouldn't take offense at being told to take the sexual talk down a notch, but that's just me. I think this is all a lot of bluster over some very minor things.

Brwn_eyes0511 · #**257** 09-01-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Wellllllllllllll (as Stevie would say when she doesn't know exactly what else to say) I don't think I'm ready to get into a big discussion about it (and that's just a general statement--not directed at you) but I have problems with

this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22065

and this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22097

That should give a general idea, anyway.

haha...I knew that was what else was bothering you! You must have not seen my post a few pages back...

don't worry sweety...those things bother me too!

GateandGarden · #**258** 09-01-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

To say that Hurricane Katrina was Bush's fault, to me, is just as insane as saying that it was the fault of the "sinners" down there in the gulf!

So I think that we should be able to challenge statements like that!

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with her but I think there's a difference between saying someone is responsible for a catastrope and someone wanted the catastrophe to happen and wanted people to die.

GypsySorcerer · #**259** 09-01-2005, 11:35 PM

I would just like to know why the sudden interest in the FAQ and guidelines. We were reminded to tone down sexual language via a sticky; yet we had several "perv" threads throughout the winter and spring. (To which I had no objections and participated in.) But out of nowhere, we get are requested to tone down the sex talk. Also, seemingly without warning, we were asked to avoid the "foulest" of language. Again, why now?

dissention · #**260** 09-01-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Have you tried this?

I have and it was quite liberating. They were so stunned at the beauty of my body that they wanted to make me a permanent fixture amongst the other works of art adorning the main hall.

Johnny Stew · #**261** 09-01-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Wellllllllllllll (as Stevie would say when she doesn't know exactly what else to say) I don't think I'm ready to get into a big discussion about it (and that's just a general statement--not directed at you) but I have problems with

this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22065

and this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22097

That should give a general idea, anyway.

You know I love you, Hillary, but why do you have a problem with us cracking down on the excessive language and vulgarity? It is prohibited in the Ledge rules, and always has been.

People used to self-censor, but in recent times things have gotten not just a little out of hand, and many users have complained.

All we're asking is that people conduct themselves with a little bit of decorum again.
It's really not that hard to do.

GypsySorcerer · #**262** 09-01-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Well, I don't know what to tell you.

This is a private board and if the owners want the rules to be enforced after quite a long period of "anything goes," it's up to them. I wouldn't be up in arms because someone requested me to post "f*cking" instead of "****ing," and I wouldn't take offense at being told to take the sexual talk down a notch, but that's just me. I think this is all a lot of bluster over some very minor things.

But with the "profanity filter" evidently working, why even start a thread asking us to tone down the language?

Johnny Stew · #**263** 09-01-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Have you tried this? I have wanted to....but I'm kind of shy.

I work in a library... I can only get away with that on "Casual Fridays."

Brwn_eyes0511 · #**264** 09-01-2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with her but I think there's a difference between saying someone is responsible for a catastrope and someone wanted the catastrophe to happen and wanted people to die.

I understand that...

But my point of view was...

that there are people who actually think that it was the fault of the "sinners", so I think that blaming President Bush is no worse...IMO!

That's where I was coming from anyways...but I see what you mean.

GateandGarden · #**265** 09-01-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

Well, I don't know what to tell you.

This is a private board and if the owners want the rules to be enforced after quite a long period of "anything goes," it's up to them. I wouldn't be up in arms because someone requested me to post "f*cking" instead of "****ing," and I wouldn't take offense at being told to take the sexual talk down a notch, but that's just me. I think this is all a lot of bluster over some very minor things.

Okay. Of course, you're entitled to your opinion. I would rather return to the days of less moderation. I don't think that it was literally "anything goes" before; it was more lax but not that extreme.

We can't have complete free speech but I would like more. To quote Sondheim "Why can't it be like it was? I liked it the way that it was."

I feel it's disrespectful to all of us, frankly. And I think the f*cking versus f ucking thing is just silly. They're pretty much the same thing so I find that whole thing kind of laughable.

These things may seem minor but when they're all put together then they seem offensive enough to me. Yes, I know it's a private message board so it's not my decision but I can certainly disagree.

dissention · #**266** 09-01-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

But with the "profanity filter" evidently working, why even start a thread asking us to tone down the language?

I just posted the word "****ing," so it can't be working very well, sweetie.

Sugar · #**267** 09-01-2005, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Wellllllllllllll (as Stevie would say when she doesn't know exactly what else to say) I don't think I'm ready to get into a big discussion about it (and that's just a general statement--not directed at you) but I have problems with

this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22065

and this--http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=22097

That should give a general idea, anyway.

Wow. I'm really surprised, Hillary.

There were some people who had expressed feeling uncomfortable by some of the excessively explicit talk on the board. We decided that toning it down a bit wasn't too much to ask for the sake of making this board a welcome place for all Fleetwood Mac fans.

I took quite a bit of care trying to word my post in such a way as to not sound preachy or judgemental.

Is toning down the sexual content really so troubling to you?

GateandGarden · #**268** 09-01-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

You know I love you, Hillary, but why do you have a problem with us cracking down on the excessive language and vulgarity? It is prohibited in the Ledge rules, and always has been.

People used to self-censor, but in recent times things have gotten not just a little out of hand, and many users have complained.

All we're asking is that people conduct themselves with a little bit of decorum again.
It's really not that hard to do.

I love you too, Brian. I can't help the fact that I have a problem with all of this. It certainly isn't against you.

dissention · #**269** 09-01-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I understand that...

But my point of view was...

that there are people who actually think that it was the fault of the "sinners", so I think that blaming President Bush is no worse...IMO!

That's where I was coming from anyways...but I see what you mean.

Stop repeating the right wing talking point that she blamed the hurricane on Bush. She did not. She blamed his policies that cut New Orleans funding that would have helped them to brace for such a disaster. There is a difference if you take the time to read what she wrote.

sodascouts · #**270** 09-01-2005, 11:42 PM

I actually agree that it's a good idea to cut back on the graphic sexual language and profanity. For a brief period it was inescapable - spilling over into every forum. I'm glad they're trying to raise awareness about it.