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Old 01-08-2005, 07:57 PM
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What show is this?
I dont have...I checked and I could find it in my collection, So who knows
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Old 01-08-2005, 08:00 PM
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There's a discussion in the thread on easytree about this... It's apparently Wallingford... but there are a few versions of Wallingford floating around. Some are missing this first track. Someone said there are three seperate versions labelled Wallingford, with different dates... So who knows...lol

And I should add... It's apparently different then "Who's The New Girl". I haven't downloaded it... well I did once already, and listened to a few tracks, but there was an error on track #5, so I'll have to give it another go and download again.... After Buffalo. But it sounded different then what I have as "Who's The New Girl".

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Old 01-08-2005, 08:26 PM
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I have Fresno & Maryville 2004 Ready to go this week on Easytree.


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Give it time!
LOL, My God! I havent even begun to start all the torrent files wating in line.. I can only do 3 at a time or else my comp frezzes. But of course I will grab those first! LOL
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Old 01-08-2005, 08:39 PM
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I have Fresno & Maryville 2004 Ready to go this week on Easytree.


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Good lord! I hope I don't run out of room on my computer. Thank you for your genorosity.
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Old 01-08-2005, 08:49 PM
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Good lord! I hope I don't run out of room on my computer. Thank you for your genorosity.
Yea thats what I am saying! LOL at 1 point out of 40GB I had only 4.1GB left.. I had to start making CD's like mad! LOL
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Old 01-09-2005, 04:04 AM
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This is all an interesting debate, and I can see both sides. I think we must remember the difference between someone who posts downloads and someone who trades - they are completely separate entities with seperate audiences who put the material to different purposes. David is not encouraging anyone to trade lower quality materials.

Yes, it was questionable behavior to go against the expressed wishes of the sharer. However, as I downloaded the "Who's the New Girl" show off of EZtree today, I noticed that user also posted that he did not want the show converted to MP3. That show has been circulating for years in MP3 format - so what's going on here? Shall we police sites who post that show from now on and try to figure out if they have used the bittorrent as the source and, if so, should we lambaste them for going against the sharer's wishes? It starts getting ridiculous.

If I were David, I would lay off posting bittorrent tracks that request the downloader not to post them as MP3, just to be considerate to the sharer. However, I can't universally condemn him when he's not trying to pass the songs off as higher quality material, just allowing people who don't care about such things access to the show.

If all you're worried about is the quality of shows, make sure you trade with people who meet those standards. Leave the MP3 downloaders alone. JMHO.
All good points, Nancy. I agree about the older shows already circulating as mp3s. Who cares? Sioux City was different. It had only been shared as a cd from uncompressed audio. The torrent trader's wishes were not only ignored by David, he also said in his posts that he doesn't care about anything the torrent traders request regarding shows they share. I think that's insulting and I don't blame anyone for not sharing if people want to put up every show they can get their hands on for download at mp3 websites.

I don't think mp3 is a bad format for my personal use. The torrent traders and people who buy expensive equipment to tape shows don't like it. They won't share as many new shows if they see everything going straight to mp3 websites. We're lucky to have a few people on this board who know enough about torrents to seed shows for us. We don't always have to depend on purists at the torrent sites to get out new shows. The failure to honor the no mp3 requests just makes it harder to get more good stuff from the tapers who won't want to share if they know shows will be going straight to mp3 downloads as soon as they're shared on the torrents.


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Old 01-09-2005, 05:49 AM
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I hope I can let this debate die now with this post! I am not going to post anymore bootlegs of which has the label "Don't convert to mp3" anymore! But I will post the rest of this bootleg just to be respectless to a person which doesn't deserve respect! This is what Melanie has written on the EZBoard about me:

"Thanks for the show. I understand the info file note for no mp3 conversion. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. I upped a show recently and it was on an mp3 download sites the next day. My info note didn't mean crap. I'm not upping any more shows while this guy is out there trashing what we try to make good. He comes here to grab and go. His share ratio is lousy. I'll wait until he exceeds his limit before I up another show. I like all German people but he is giving all Fleetwood fans a bad rep." (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21622)

And she was the one who seeded this show! You blamed me for not respecting the taper's request, but I can tell you that this was her request! everyone of you contacted me, except the taper of this show! Does he know that she offers his show for bittorrent? I want to hear from him that this was his request!

A few days ago I used the example of the "My Heart" demo and you said:

"The My Heart song was completely different, this was a never before heard of song, the SYW set at Siuox City was the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004." (I wont add a comment about the "goddamn set that FM played nearly every night" now)
"...because you mentioned 'My Heart', I think that was a slightly different situation"


Remember who refused to share the "My Heart" demo? Hmmmm......let me think about it! Could it be possible that our Melanie appears here again? YES! She had the demo on a CD and then she converted it to a mp3 snippet (oh no, why did se convert it to mp3 and why doesn't she share this snippet over bittorrent) to tell the world: Look whatv I have here and you will never get it! She refused to trade the CD, because she knew that we would like to have the demo (not me that much, but a lot of other users even here)

And now please tell me that you think it was right what she did! I know that it was not right what I did, but she has done worse things! It is not about that particular show anymore, it is an discussion about mp3 vs. shn/flac files and it is forgotten that Melanie has been respectless to all of us when she had something what we wanted and she refused to trade/upload it for us! Even worse, she uploaded a snippet to tell us what we will never hear! Now that's what maked me think that she hates sharing!

And the point that as long as I post those mp3, people refuse to upload now torrent to the site! WTF? The biggest ever! Has there ever been more torrents on a short time like it was on the last day? Hell no!

Fleetwood Mac@ Concord, CA - 2004
Fleetwood Mac 1975-12 - xx Live In The Studio (shn)
fleetwood mac - 2003-05-15 - buffalo, n. y. (flac)
Lindsey Buckingham - The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
Buckingham Nicks live 1974
Stevie Nicks Sanctuary
Gift Of Screws - Lindsey Buckingham

(I better not say somethng about this, but you hate me for posting mp3s, but for someone who uplaoded mp3-sourced files and gets banned because of it, you try to find excuses "I'm sure the seeder didn't know his format was lossy." Huh? Mabye! But that is what the seeder has written on the EZBoard "So if there are a lot circulating that are mp3 sourced, you may want to wait till somebody checks." I am pretty sure he expected to it be lossy, but that is just a detail!)

6 bootlegs in two days! I actually don't care anymore if Melanie refuses to post bootlegs anymore as long as there is so much new stuff posted!

As I said, I am not going to post new tracks from "Don't convert to mp3" bootlegs anymore, excpet this bootleg! And don't ever think about saying I don't respect the tapers requests as a reason that I mustn't post the bootleg anymore! It was not his request, it was Melanie's request! I dobn't care about her and her "I like all German people but he is giving all Fleetwood fans a bad rep."-stuff! Something like this makes me feel embarassed that she was born in the same country as I! If I have gotten a rare song, the first thing I would do is share it and not telling the world you will never get it!

David

PS: Discussion ended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-09-2005, 11:04 AM
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Thanks to Neil... We have another torrent download on easytree... What a great wknd!!!!

Salt Lake City 1987

Fleetwood Mac - Live in Salt Lake City, 28th Nov 1987 SOUNDBOARD

1-1 Say You Love Me,
1-2 The Chain,
1-3 Dreams,
1-4 Isn't It Midnight,
1-5 Oh Well,
1-6 Seven Wonders,
1-7 Rattlesnake Shake,
1-8 Over My Head,
1-9 Gold Dust Woman,
2-1 Don't Let Me Down Again,
2-2 Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You,
2-3 Another Woman,
2-4 Brown Eyes,
2-5 World Turning,
2-6 Little Lies,
2-7 Stand Back,
2-8 You Make Loving Fun,
2-9 Go Your Own Way,
2-10 Blue Letter,
2-11 Don't Stop,
2-12 Songbird.


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This set came to me via a conventional CD trade, this show has been around in the
online community for a few months only and has been posted on websites as MP3 files.
This set checks out as lossless files.
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Old 01-09-2005, 07:03 PM
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I hope I can let this debate die now with this post! I am not going to post anymore bootlegs of which has the label "Don't convert to mp3" anymore! But I will post the rest of this bootleg just to be respectless to a person which doesn't deserve respect! This is what Melanie has written on the EZBoard about me:

"Thanks for the show. I understand the info file note for no mp3 conversion. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. I upped a show recently and it was on an mp3 download sites the next day. My info note didn't mean crap. I'm not upping any more shows while this guy is out there trashing what we try to make good. He comes here to grab and go. His share ratio is lousy. I'll wait until he exceeds his limit before I up another show. I like all German people but he is giving all Fleetwood fans a bad rep." (http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?id=21622)

And she was the one who seeded this show! You blamed me for not respecting the taper's request, but I can tell you that this was her request! everyone of you contacted me, except the taper of this show! Does he know that she offers his show for bittorrent? I want to hear from him that this was his request!

A few days ago I used the example of the "My Heart" demo and you said:

"The My Heart song was completely different, this was a never before heard of song, the SYW set at Siuox City was the same goddamn set that FM played nearly every night of 2003 / 2004." (I wont add a comment about the "goddamn set that FM played nearly every night" now)
"...because you mentioned 'My Heart', I think that was a slightly different situation"


Remember who refused to share the "My Heart" demo? Hmmmm......let me think about it! Could it be possible that our Melanie appears here again? YES! She had the demo on a CD and then she converted it to a mp3 snippet (oh no, why did se convert it to mp3 and why doesn't she share this snippet over bittorrent) to tell the world: Look whatv I have here and you will never get it! She refused to trade the CD, because she knew that we would like to have the demo (not me that much, but a lot of other users even here)

And now please tell me that you think it was right what she did! I know that it was not right what I did, but she has done worse things! It is not about that particular show anymore, it is an discussion about mp3 vs. shn/flac files and it is forgotten that Melanie has been respectless to all of us when she had something what we wanted and she refused to trade/upload it for us! Even worse, she uploaded a snippet to tell us what we will never hear! Now that's what maked me think that she hates sharing!

And the point that as long as I post those mp3, people refuse to upload now torrent to the site! WTF? The biggest ever! Has there ever been more torrents on a short time like it was on the last day? Hell no!

Fleetwood Mac@ Concord, CA - 2004
Fleetwood Mac 1975-12 - xx Live In The Studio (shn)
fleetwood mac - 2003-05-15 - buffalo, n. y. (flac)
Lindsey Buckingham - The Hand That Rocks the Cradle
Buckingham Nicks live 1974
Stevie Nicks Sanctuary
Gift Of Screws - Lindsey Buckingham

(I better not say somethng about this, but you hate me for posting mp3s, but for someone who uplaoded mp3-sourced files and gets banned because of it, you try to find excuses "I'm sure the seeder didn't know his format was lossy." Huh? Mabye! But that is what the seeder has written on the EZBoard "So if there are a lot circulating that are mp3 sourced, you may want to wait till somebody checks." I am pretty sure he expected to it be lossy, but that is just a detail!)

6 bootlegs in two days! I actually don't care anymore if Melanie refuses to post bootlegs anymore as long as there is so much new stuff posted!

As I said, I am not going to post new tracks from "Don't convert to mp3" bootlegs anymore, excpet this bootleg! And don't ever think about saying I don't respect the tapers requests as a reason that I mustn't post the bootleg anymore! It was not his request, it was Melanie's request! I dobn't care about her and her "I like all German people but he is giving all Fleetwood fans a bad rep."-stuff! Something like this makes me feel embarassed that she was born in the same country as I! If I have gotten a rare song, the first thing I would do is share it and not telling the world you will never get it!

David

PS: Discussion ended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David you're making a lot of mistatements in your post including the part about the My Heart song being held by the same person as the Sioux City show. The people who got the got the Sioux City show out are guys not girls. The My Heart song was a different person. I had that show before it was on the torrent and I agreed not to convert it or trade it as mp3. I could have done that a bunch of times. I kept my promise not to convert it and so did everybody else who got this show before you. I'm glad you changed your mind about not offering the new torrent shows for mp3 download. A bunch of us on this board want to get more shows on the torrent site. There was a thread about starting a Fleetwood Mac torrent site. Maybe you'd like to help out? We all want to share. It's all good.

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Old 01-09-2005, 09:30 PM
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I am trying to download five torrents, but all of them are "queued." Is this normal? Shouldn't I at least have one downloading? The torrents are:

Stevie Nicks US Festival
Cloaks and Daggers
Sioux City 2003
Buffalo 2003
Salt Lake City 1987.

Should I be concerned?

Note: The other torrents that I have already downloading are uploading just fine.
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Check your settings, you could be set to download a maximum amount. Like for instance.. I have my bitcomet set at 10 download/uploads. So if you have too many going at once, they will end up in your queue until a slot is available.
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Check your settings, you could be set to download a maximum amount. Like for instance.. I have my bitcomet set at 10 download/uploads. So if you have too many going at once, they will end up in your queue until a slot is available.
I set my number of downloads to unlimited and still nothing (it was at 2 - but since 0 were downloading, I don't think that was the problem anyway). Unless you're talking about another setting?

Maybe I should re-install.

Edit: Reinstallation fixed the problem. Too bad I wasted a day of downloading trying to solve it by other means!
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Another addition to the Torrent site for download - with another one on the way.

This is the Link!

Fleetwood Mac - "Live in Baton Rouge" Baton Rouge, LA US 8/30/78
Sound: A (SB)

?>aud>eac>flac

1. Monday Morning
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. Rhiannon
5. Oh Daddy
6. Never Going Back
7. Landslide
8. Say You Love Me
9. Gold Dust Woman
10. Blue Letter
11. Sisters of the Moon

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Fleetwood Mac - "Live in Baton Rouge" Baton Rouge, LA US 8/30/78
Sound: A (SB)

?>aud>eac>flac

1. Monday Morning
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. Rhiannon
5. Oh Daddy
6. Never Going Back
7. Landslide
8. Say You Love Me
9. Gold Dust Woman
10. Blue Letter
11. Sisters of the Moon

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than the version of the show I have (Seems the torrent version is missing a few tracks)

Fleetwood Mac-Aug.30,1978-Baton Rouge, LA-Riverside Centroplex

1.Monday Morning
2.The Chain
3.Dreams
4.Oh Well
5.Rhiannon
6.Oh Daddy
7.Never Going Back Again
8.Landslide
9.Say You Love Me
10.Gold Dust Woman
11.Blue Letter
12.Sisters Of The Moon
13.Second Hand News
14.Songbird
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Yeah... I noticed that too. There is a full version of the full show out there... I have it on mp3 but not .wav sourced.

And the other show was just put up for download as well:

Fleetwood Mac
The Checkerdome
St. Louis, MO US
11/6/79
Quality: SBD A+

?>aud>eac>flac

CD1 - 56:23
Say You Love Me
The Chain
Dreams
Not That Funny
Rhiannon (cut)
Over And Over
Oh Well
Sara
What Makes You Think You're The One
Oh Daddy
Save Me A Place

CD2 - 55:18
Landslide
Tusk
Angel
You Make Loving Fun
I'm So Afraid
World Turning
Go Your Own Way
Sisters Of The Moon
Blue Letter
Songbird
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