Grey's Anatomy

[skcin]

^ It's not related. Not one bit. But I don't care, them's the rules I'm making.

I just think it's great that there's a voluptuous dark-haired brown-skinned woman on the show who is being represented as a sexy smart woman - not a cleaning lady, not a nurse, not a waitress, not a trophy wife (I'm just using these as examples from other shows, past & present.) She's a physician, and a strong, intelligent, independent woman. And she's full figured, but by no means obese. We both know that weight doesn't = health.

It's a nice change from Meredith & Izzie and their "typical" beauty - blond, very thin, kind of cliquey. Christina is teeny-tiny & Addison is statuesque & raven-haired. Bailey is...Bailey.

Bottom line is, I think they're all gorgeous in their own way & I'm glad it's a pretty diverse cast. From what I'm hearing from friends at work, this is the top show for high school kids too. It's good to see different representations of beauty. It's good to see people of any sex, race, nationality, etc. working hard & being smart and successful. It's good to see that the sterotypical blond haired blue eyed people don't have perfect lives.

BTW - I didn't love Callie in the prom dress. Thought her shoulders looked too broad.


OH! Almost forgot to defend her "clinginess." If I told a guy I loved him, and he left the room cuz his friend asked him too, and I didn't know why, I'd be a little pissed too. That's a heavy thing to say (esp. since she later said she had never said it to a guy before) & for him to leave and THEN never call her like he said he would, even to explain what happened? That's hurtful. After she knew what happened, after he explained what was going on, she calmed down & it seems like she's trying to understand their dynamic. So we'll see.

[amber]

Originally Posted by sara1998

Have you looked at America lately? In reality, that IS the size of real women. I am heavier then healthy, and most everyone I know is heavier then the size zero that disgustingly pops up on most of television. I think there is nothing wrong with a little chub. She certainly is not huge.

Well, I think there is, and women are that big now because they eat crappily and don't exercise enough. Sorry, I don't think that is a little chub. A little chub is 10 pounds or so. No, of course she isn't HUGE.
And no, everyone shouldn't be a zero. If they're not naturally skinny, they should probably be from a six to a 10 or 12, depending.
And, I hate also that people think it's okay to tell Meredith to eat something (she's naturally thin, says she's had to eat extra all her life to keep her weight up) but get all het up when someone says Callie needs to put a burger or two down.
Everyone can do what they want, but I'm not going to pretend I think it's okay for people (including myself) to be too overweight and unhealthy just because many women are. I don't think the standard for health needs to be lowered just cause people aren't meeting it, in other words. I'm not going to celebrate something that isn't good for people, even if it does help their self esteem. I don't think people should feel bad about themselves if they are heavy, but I also don't think they should feel that it's okay to neglect their health. This country has a horribly high percentage of obesity in adults and children, and the corresponding diabetes and other dangerous health problems that go with it. With all the resources, choices, and education at our disposal, it's ridiculous that we are this unhealthy as a country.
No, you don't have to look like most people on TV. My normal size is an 8, and I'm perfectly happy with that because I know it is my normal size when I am in shape and not carrying much extra weight.


Paula, clear your pm's! I have juicy tidbits!

[CelticGypsy]

I love the characters of Bailey and Callie. I think they are sexy, cute, smart and loveable. They look like real women who live in the USA.

I don't find Meredith a loveable person at all. Maybe she needs to eat more in order to not have that confused look on her face all the time

I do agree with Callie's prom dress. The wardrobe people should have found a dress that looked great on her. She is a gorgeous girl and they should have spent more time looking for a dress. She would have looked great in a red dress like Addison's.

What is wrong with the males on the show anyway Three of them are in love with Meredith Unbelievable Yeah, that is every mother's dream daughter-in-law.........a drunk and a Sl*t

[jadegypsy]

Amber, what a great post, it puts into words exactly what i would like to say to people sometimes, the HEALTH is really the issue people should be concerned with not the looks.

And on the otherside, I am one of those people that is a size 0-2 both short and thin and it doesn't matter how much or what i eat I don't seem to gain weight so yeah it's funny and a bit odd when I tell people I can't give blood b/c I don't meet the weight requirment and they then ask are you anorexic and I'm like no, I'm 5ft tall.

[wondergirl9847]

Originally Posted by CelticGypsy

What is wrong with the males on the show anyway Three of them are in love with Meredith Unbelievable Yeah, that is every mother's dream daughter-in-law.........a drunk and a Sl*t

*High fives CelticGypsy*

I cannot STAND Meh. She never smiles, her voice never fluctuates (monotone), she is the biggest whippin' on TV. Sheebus.

Alex....I want you so bad after seeing you comfort Izzy.

Poor Addison.

McDreamy can McScrewOff.

[Beachwood Mac]

Originally Posted by amber

Slut is an antiquated, stupid word to judge women if they have sex with someone.

It's just a term Amber. And it fits Meredith very well. It would be different if she just slept with some "ONE". I'm not sure if we can even count the number on one hand this season alone. At least Derrick has limited it to his wife and Meredith.

Besides, Paula said it was okay to call her a slut and that's reason enough for me

[amber]

Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac

It's just a term Amber. And it fits Meredith very well. It would be different if she just slept with some "ONE". I'm not sure if we can even count the number on one hand this season alone. At least Derrick has limited it to his wife and Meredith.

Besides, Paula said it was okay to call her a slut and that's reason enough for me

I don't think the term means anything. I think it's wrong to judge people for who, how many, when, where, etc. people they sleep with, but you just did. You seem to think it's wrong for women to sleep with a lot of people. I don't. And I think it is wrong to judge anyone on how many people they've slept with, male or female. And then you go on to make another strange judgement - Derrick is married, he slept with someone outside his marriage. Just because he slept with less people, you think he's better than Meredith. Good lawd.
I can't believe in this day and age people still judge others by who they sleep with, how many, etc. It's totally pointless, and it's offensive, IMO. It's just a Madonna/Whore pidgeonhole for women, when women are neither, or all, of those things besides so very, very, very many more things, and those are the things you should judge people on. The content of their character, not one aspect of their sexuality.
Seriously. Are we in the dark ages?

[Miss Vicky]

McDreamy's a man-slut. So is Alex.

But Dempsey makes great eye-candy, so it's all good.

[Beachwood Mac]

Originally Posted by amber

I don't think the term means anything. I think it's wrong to judge people for who, how many, when, where, etc. people they sleep with, but you just did. You seem to think it's wrong for women to sleep with a lot of people. I don't. And I think it is wrong to judge anyone on how many people they've slept with, male or female. And then you go on to make another strange judgement - Derrick is married, he slept with someone outside his marriage. Just because he slept with less people, you think he's better than Meredith. Good lawd.
I can't believe in this day and age people still judge others by who they sleep with, how many, etc. It's totally pointless, and it's offensive, IMO. It's just a Madonna/Whore pidgeonhole for women, when women are neither, or all, of those things besides so very, very, very many more things, and those are the things you should judge people on. The content of their character, not one aspect of their sexuality.
Seriously. Are we in the dark ages?

It's a frickin TV show Amber! I'm not judging the world.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac

It's a frickin TV show Amber! I'm not judging the world.

You don't get it. Just the fact that you used that word as if sleeping with multiple people is bad shows what kind of judgments you make on people and for what reasons. For instance, the word "slut" never entered my mind once in regards to Meredith, and actually I've never used that word in my life.
I thought "ooo, you guys shouldn't be sleeping with each other because of Addison" and I thought "Derrick, you're an a-hole, if you want to sleep with someone else, you should let your wife go."
No "slut". It's the whole "equating sex with a bad personality trait" thing.
But, whatever. I mean, it's your prerogative to call people denigrating names if they sleep with someone, I just don't like it. So, sorry if I offended you, I just think it's a terrible word to use, when you clearly don't think it's a big deal. What can I say? We disagree.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by amber

Well, I think there is, and women are that big now because they eat crappily and don't exercise enough. Sorry, I don't think that is a little chub. A little chub is 10 pounds or so. No, of course she isn't HUGE.
And no, everyone shouldn't be a zero. If they're not naturally skinny, they should probably be from a six to a 10 or 12, depending.
And, I hate also that people think it's okay to tell Meredith to eat something (she's naturally thin, says she's had to eat extra all her life to keep her weight up) but get all het up when someone says Callie needs to put a burger or two down.
Everyone can do what they want, but I'm not going to pretend I think it's okay for people (including myself) to be too overweight and unhealthy just because many women are. I don't think the standard for health needs to be lowered just cause people aren't meeting it, in other words. I'm not going to celebrate something that isn't good for people, even if it does help their self esteem. I don't think people should feel bad about themselves if they are heavy, but I also don't think they should feel that it's okay to neglect their health. This country has a horribly high percentage of obesity in adults and children, and the corresponding diabetes and other dangerous health problems that go with it. With all the resources, choices, and education at our disposal, it's ridiculous that we are this unhealthy as a country.
No, you don't have to look like most people on TV. My normal size is an 8, and I'm perfectly happy with that because I know it is my normal size when I am in shape and not carrying much extra weight.


Paula, clear your pm's! I have juicy tidbits!

I know what you're saying, I agree that we shouldn't just blow off the obesity problem in the U.S. BUT - just like Meredith is naturally thin, Callie seems to be naturally thick (big boned, large framed, whatever.) I'd bet this chick works out regulary & doesn't eat burgers & fries all the time. She has an hourglass figure with big boobs & big hips, that's all.

[sara1998]

Originally Posted by skcin

I know what you're saying, I agree that we shouldn't just blow off the obesity problem in the U.S. BUT - just like Meredith is naturally thin, Callie seems to be naturally thick (big boned, large framed, whatever.) I'd bet this chick works out regulary & doesn't eat burgers & fries all the time. She has an hourglass figure with big boobs & big hips, that's all.

Thank you.

[skcin]

Originally Posted by sara1998

Thank you.

You're welcome. I like your "scary & damaged" sig, btw.


http://www.sararamirez.com/TheSite/BIOGRAPHY.htm

Check out the gallery, esp the pics from the 2005 Tony's. Bitch is hot.

[skcin]

Son of a B!

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

But I watch Earl and The Office Thursdays at 9! Don't they know this?!?! Bastards.

[Pisces Queen]

Why oh why are they changing it to Thursday's. I watch Earl and the Office and TiVo Survivor and CSI. Are they trying to kill off the show like they did with Commander and Chief?