The doc!!! - Page 15

wondergirl9847 · #1 03-16-2004, 06:49 PM

I just wanted to say....I don't see her as a poet. A Poet. Someone who writes poetry and makes a living at it. She doesn't do that. She is in a band and writes songs, with melodies.

She is a singer/songwriter.

I can see the argument that songs are basically, poetry put to music, but I just do not see her as a poet. She is poetic, as an adjective. I do realize that she writes poetry in her journals and such, but I write poetry too, but that doesn't make me a poet.

I'm just being as a$$ today.

Keith · #2 03-16-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by diamondsnake
Stevie's personal assistant is so annoying. She was in almost every clip, sitting there grooming Stevie's dog! She needs to leave ASAP!

Well, I wanted to be Stevie's assistant.. how cool to just hang out and take care of Ms. Nicks. I didn't record the show last night, so i'm running on memory fumes, but I have to say I smiled at Stevie quite a few times.. she captured my heart..

I'm listening to "Murrow" as I type, wondering if Lindsey knew he was writing about the American press in 2004. I've been listening to "Say You Will" again and I must admit .. it's better the second time around..

:-)

LindseyChick · #3 03-16-2004, 07:14 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kak125
[B] I loved the part when they were talking about Thrown Down and Stevie was saying how it was about Lindsey and him saying something to the effect of how he knows the song is about him and that you have to distance yourself from that but you can tell he was flattered by it (as he should be).

I also loved that part! I've always felt that a lot of the stuff they've written is about the other. That's one of the things that draws me to them. When he asked her who the song was about, I don't think he meant the actual person, I think the answer he was looking for was the character named, which is "he", 'cause he was trying to get her to change it to "and now he's going home", but she came out with "it's about you". I loved that!

I haven't read all the posts in regard to the documentary, but from what I have read, I haven't seen anyone make mention of the fact that they ran it commercial free. WHAT AN ABSOLUTE GIFT TO US!! Thank you to whomever is responsible for that! It was a much needed "fix" for this Lindsey fan. I came away just loving all four of them.

And yes, Lindsey was very kind to John. Who would have thought all those years ago....?! John's part on the boat was the best John part. I thought it was reminiscent of a very old Christine interview that took place on a sailboat...(her sailboat?).

So, yeh, it was great. I think I'll watch it again tonight.

Peace and love,
Sharon L.

dissention · #4 03-16-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I don't think it's necessary either, as candid shots of her have proven that she looks gorgeous with little makeup, and without benefit of re-touching... but she's sort of in that "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation.

If they re-touch her appearance, she gets needled for being vain or insecure... and if she doesn't, she sets herself up to get criticized for looking tired, or old, or God knows what else.

At any rate, i don't believe her appearance was re-touched throughout the entire documentary... only certain spots.
For instance, she looks exactly the same in several of the recording scenes, as she does on the enchanced clips from the 'Say You Will' disc, and from the official site.

How in the world did you infer all of that from a few people saying that she was touched-up?

No one is knocking Stevie for it, man. If I looked tired or like **** in some shots, I'd do the same thing, so I don't begrudge her for doing it. But it certainly is vain and there's no way to dance around it.

Anyways, like I said, she looked beautiful throughout the whole thing.

4Buck · #5 03-16-2004, 09:44 PM

Agreed!

ENDEARING MOMENTS FOR ME from FM/DESTINY RULES DOCUMENTARY…..I LOVED IT!

WORLD TURNING: Stevie wants to do the entire set again…..It’s late….(We know Lindsey’s been there earlier than the others)….she knows he’s moving into his new house…..he needs a rest, he says sexily in an open white shirt….he can’t stay till 10:00 …. or 9:30 tonight….

Stevie backs off about rehearsing the complete set.…..and says, “Ok then, let’s just keep going and just do half the set and then we’ll call it…..”

THE TOUR:
Lindsey and Stevie happily engaging in conversation on plane…Charming!

“Here we go!” Mick cheerfully tells us in Columbus Ohio on their kick-off concert date May 7th 2003……...In a back hallway, Lindsey warms up fingerpicking his acoustic gem, NEVER GOIN BACK AGAIN…..

THE DRESSING ROOM …..”Johnnnnnny….!” Lindsey calls to the melodic bass player, and he and John give each other good luck hugs….

Then “You know where I stand,” John firmly says to Mick. “I know where you stand. That’s why I love you,” Mick warmly confirms…

Then John, shaking his finger at his longtime band buddy, commands, “ when I *@^% look at you, you *@^$ smile ----“

“----You look at me back!” Mick says overriding his friend’s words. “Maybe….maybe…” the legendary drummer kids…
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“**@ right!” – John demands, walking away…..

Lindsey gently takes Stevie’s hands and separately kisses both of them. Then, as if to comfort, you see him ask “you all right?”

La lovely Nicks nods….

THE GRAND ENTRANCE……

Holding hands Stevie and Lindsey head for the stage… lights go out!.....the crowd roars! S&L are escorted by a beacon….camera follows …….. a heartbeat is heard above the crowd….

Surrealistic………………….

Dramatically, the doc ends here……………

dontlookdown · #6 03-16-2004, 09:56 PM

i thought it was poorly edited. also - it could have been cutdown by 30 minutes. the "tension" between lindsey and stevie and lindsey and the rest of the band felt contrived. although i did like the moment in the beginning where he gets emotional and has to wipe away tears. that felt real.

you can tell stevie can be unpleasant at times. i love her but she sure can take herself too seriously at times. and yeah - lindsey can be pompous. but i think it's warranted.

stevie's no bob dylan. and i wish she would chop off all that hair and just get a great short cool haircut.
aside from that - i loved it!
i especially loved John's post-alcoholic inability to form a sentence. maybe lindsey's perfect diction makes up for that.

and surprise - who seemed the most grounded and normal and un-affected?

mick fleetwood!

ShangriLaTroubl · #7 03-16-2004, 10:39 PM

Stevie would NOT work well with short hair...and thank God, I love her long hair..it's incredible..it's a trademark (more of a trademark nowadays than her clothes)

Chris

diamondsnake · #8 03-16-2004, 10:56 PM

I just have to say, that although Stevie looked great through the whole video, it was incredible how different she looked in the rehersals with her hair all wild without a care about how she looked and then opening night when her hair and makeup were perfect. It was crazy! I can't get over how made up these stars are in front of the camera, but it is good because it shows us they are just like you and me, you know?

I agree about John not being able to form a sentence- and don't kill me but john talks like this: I... want.... to.... .... well... ummm.... In other words he talks way too slow. Spead it up! Maybe he is just being wise and doesn't want to say anything that could get him in trouble in front of people. I am the complete opposite- I talk and then think.

diamondsnake · #9 03-16-2004, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by dontlookdown
i thought it was poorly edited. also - it could have been cutdown by 30 minutes. the "tension" between lindsey and stevie and lindsey and the rest of the band felt contrived. although i did like the moment in the beginning where he gets emotional and has to wipe away tears. that felt real.

you can tell stevie can be unpleasant at times. i love her but she sure can take herself too seriously at times. and yeah - lindsey can be pompous. but i think it's warranted.

stevie's no bob dylan. and i wish she would chop off all that hair and just get a great short cool haircut.
aside from that - i loved it!
i especially loved John's post-alcoholic inability to form a sentence. maybe lindsey's perfect diction makes up for that.

and surprise - who seemed the most grounded and normal and un-affected?

mick fleetwood!

You are right- she is no Bob Dylan- she is better then him!

and why would she cut her hair, it is her outstanding feature IMO.

Johnny Stew · #10 03-16-2004, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
How in the world did you infer all of that from a few people saying that she was touched-up?

No one is knocking Stevie for it, man. If I looked tired or like **** in some shots, I'd do the same thing, so I don't begrudge her for doing it. But it certainly is vain and there's no way to dance around it.

Gimme a break, my friend... you know as well as I do, from past threads here and on other boards, that she gets slammed for anything that can be perceived as vanity, and knocked if people don't think she's living up to the expectations they have for her physical appearance.

I was just commenting on that fact, not commenting on vanity... after all, combing our hair in the morning is an act of vanity, if you want to get technical.

AgainLindsey · #11 03-17-2004, 09:54 AM

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i did like the moment in the beginning where he gets emotional and has to wipe away tears. that felt real.

i especially loved John's post-alcoholic inability to form a sentence. maybe lindsey's perfect diction makes up for that.

good bits!

Gypsy-Rhiannon · #12 03-17-2004, 11:36 AM

I have only seen the clip so I could be totally wrong here but where did Stevie compare herself to Bob Dylan? I thought she said to Lindsey that he wouldn't say what he was saying to Bob Dylan

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