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Well, now that I think about it, W said the initial evacuation of NOLA and MS was unacceptable. So, W probably is on board and wants to have a kangaroo court stacked in his favor and one that he can control. Interestingly, I have to wonder what kind of priviledge FEMA will assert to stymie the hearings. the plan was known publicly, so there can be no security issues. Moreover, they are on public television with outrageous quotes. So, much of the evidence is there. It is just not going to be pretty.
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Look at all the hurricanes we get every year! None in recent memory has had this death toll. I am just saying that if I could turn on tv and see that a catagory 5 hurricane was coming wouldn't you just attempt to get things going? Jesus Christ, if it snows up north, and there is a watch, they are out there days before salting the streets and not a snowflake will fall, but just in case. There are people being paid for emergency management...but I guess they just didn't care. No one takes these storms seriously...that's all. I know many would have stayed..but God-these people aren't primates for goodness sakes, they are people and if they are told it's a matter of life and death...then I think they'd go. It would have been hard work but isn't human life worth it?? ALL I THINK IS SOMETHING MORE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE. That's all. I think that's being realistic.
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It would seem the Bush supporters on here are somehow tryng to deflect the blame some subtly ,and some not so subtly from their President.Consider this:If this person George W Bush could climb on a heap of rubble in lower Manhattan with a bullhorn in hand and take credit for the response to 9/11 he sure as hell needs to take responsibility for his fatal inaction to the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.
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I will say this now...
There are people working around the clock to save lives. I am not saying anything against these people. I am getting sleep in my comfortable apartment with food and drink at my constant access...and these people are giving up their lives, their holidays, sleep just to save lives. These people are heros. Thank GOD for these people. I just want to make that CLEAR. I just wish more was done before...but they are working so hard NOW. God Bless Them.
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Every single Thursday and Friday, my job takes me over to Center City Philadelphia to the Federal Court Building. I go to the same Dunkin Donuts every Thursday and Friday morning for my java. I see the same dirty, sad, poor, hungry, cold, man every time I go. I buy him a donut and give him a dollar every single solitary Thursday and Friday morning. Yep, it is my hard earned money like you say, but really, am I going to miss that dollar? If he buys a bottle of beer or a hotdog, I dont give a ****. This same dirty man holds the door for me every single time and calls me "Mame". I feel compassion for him and he has never treated me with disrespect, so I show him respect. Could he work? I don't know but he obviously is in a bad way if he is living on the streets. Honestly, if more people had just a little bit more compassion in their hearts, it could make a big difference. BTW..I try to teach my kids to be the same way. Yesterday, my ten year old stood with his boy scout troup in the blazing sun, collecting money for the Hurricane victims. He WANTED to go....so I must be doing something right.
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Hurricane Center Dir. Tells Paper He Briefed Brown and Chertoff on Dangers Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center, told the Times-Picayune Sunday afternoon that officials with the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security, including FEMA Director Mike Brown and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, listened in on electronic briefings given by his staff in advance of Hurricane Katrina slamming Louisiana and Mississippi--and were advised of the storm’s potential deadly effects.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050904...s_050904195241
Stars Celine Dion, Harry Connick brand N. Orleans suffering unacceptable LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Diva Celine Dion and crooner Harry Connick Junior have rounded on US authorities over the slow response to the effort to rescue victims of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. In a special broadcast of CNN television's Larry King Live programme, the Canadian singer famed for her theme song from the watery epic Titanic became highly emotional as she spoke of the plight of the survivors. "I open the television, there's people still there, waiting to be rescued, and for me it's not acceptable," she said in an interview late Saturday in which her sobs frequently drowned out her words. "I know there's reasons for it. I'm sorry to say I'm being rude, but I don't want to hear those reasons," she said of the delayed relief effort that has prompted virulent criticism of the US government. Dion has donated one million dollars to the victims of the storm that wrought catastrophe on the US Gulf Coast after hitting Monday and sparking a deadly flood of the US jazz capital of New Orleans. "We need to serve our country and for me to serve our country is to be there right now to rescue the rest of the people. We need the cash. We need the blood. We need the support. Right now we need the prayers," she said. Officials say that thousands of people are feared killed in New Orleans where tens of thousands of survivors had to wait up to five days for military convoys and airlift planes to get into the city to rescue them. Many died in overcrowded makeshift shelters set up in the city's Superdome stadium and convention center as they waited for help to arrive. Dion also slammed authorities for arresting looters in the city that became a hellish haven of crime and violence after the storm laid waste to its infrastructure and services. "The main thing right now, it's not the people who are stealing. It's the people who are left there and they're watching helicopters flying over their heads and they're praying. "How come it's so easy to send planes in another country to kill everyone in a second, to destroy lives?" Dion said in a clear reference to the US-led war in Iraq. Singer and actor Connick, who hails from New Orleans and visited the stricken city last week, said he was horrified by the sight of the scores of bodies, including that of an old woman in chairs in the convention center. "That woman was born a long time ago, and she died on the street like an animal essentially. And this is the United States. You know, this is New Orleans," he said. Connick criticised the fact that troops and the main aid columns only made it into the city on Friday, four days after the storm, saying a friend had commandeered an abandoned city bus to help evacuate refugees. "And I'm thinking, if (she) can get on a bus and drive a bus out with sick people, you know, well, we can't get a barge to park back up on the Mississippi behind the convention center and get these people out?"
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050904/...ina_wrap_dc_25
New Orleans collects dead as officials dodge blame NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - New Orleans began the gruesome task of collecting its thousands of dead on Sunday as the Bush administration tried to save face after its botched rescue plans left the city at the mercy of Hurricane Katrina. Except for rescue workers and scattered groups of people, streets in the once-vibrant capital of jazz and good times were all but abandoned after a mass exodus of hundreds of thousands of refugees into neighboring Texas and other states. Battered and sickened survivors made no attempt to disguise their anger: "We have been abandoned by our own country, " Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, just south of New Orleans, told NBC's Meet the Press. "It's not just Katrina that caused all these deaths in New Orleans," Broussard said. "Bureaucracy has committed murder here in the greater New Orleans area, and bureaucracy has to stand trial before Congress now." After a nightmare confluence of natural disaster and political ineptitude that al Qaeda-linked Web sites called evidence of the "wrath of God" striking America, National Guard troops and U.S. marshals patrolled the city, stricken in the days after the hurricane by anarchic violence and looting. Local and federal officials said they expected to find thousands of corpses still floating in flood waters or locked inside homes and buildings destroyed by the devastating storm that struck the U.S. Gulf coast last Monday. "When we remove the water from New Orleans, we're going to uncover people who died hiding in houses, who got caught by the flood. People whose remains will be found in the street," U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff told Fox News. AS UGLY AS YOU CAN IMAGINE "There'll be pollution. It is going to be about as ugly a scene as you can imagine." Later, Chertoff flew into New Orleans and said the search for storm victims would be arduous. "Let me be clear: we're going to have to go house to house in this city," he said. "This is not going to happen overnight." President George W. Bush, who in a rare admission of error, conceded on Friday that the results of his administration's relief efforts were unacceptable, said on Saturday he would send 7,200 more active-duty troops over three days. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld toured a medical facility at New Orleans' international airport on Sunday. He spoke and shook hands with military and rescue officials but walked right by a dozen refugees lying on stretchers just feet away from him, most of them extremely sick or handicapped. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was touring the Mobile, Alabama, area, in her native state. A further 10,000 National Guard troops were being sent to storm-hit Louisiana and Mississippi, raising the total to 40,000. A total of 54,000 military personnel are now committed to relief efforts. Lawmakers promised to allocate more relief money in coming weeks after Bush signed a $10.5 billion aid package for Gulf Coast areas hit by Katrina. LOOKING FOR THE DEAD Towns along the Gulf Coast ripped apart by Katrina were beginning the enormous task of reconstruction and accounting for the dead. In hard-hit Biloxi, Mississippi, homes and cars still lay piled up on each other or under trees, and power lines dangled everywhere. Well over 100 deaths had been confirmed in Mississippi and "we are finding new casualties in the debris," Biloxi town spokesman Vincent Creel said on Saturday. The living told tales of horror in stricken New Orleans. "There were bodies floating everywhere. Lots of them. Some had bullets in them," said Michael Davis, 18, as he described his escape from a neighborhood immersed in more than 10 feet of water last week. He ultimately found refuge at a domed arena in Lafayette, Louisiana. Mississippi largely escaped the turmoil in New Orleans but officials warned of a serious risk of dysentery and other diseases from contaminated water. "It's not a disaster, it's a catastrophe," Harrison County's health director, Bob Trabnicek, said in Biloxi. "Why they don't try to get us out of here, I don't know," said Ella Robertson, 51, as she paced back and forth on a debris-lined Biloxi street. "Waiting, that's all we can do." The storm's impact was felt across the United States as gas prices rose to well over $3 a gallon after Katrina's 140-mph (225-kph) winds shut eight oil refineries and crippled others. 'TWO CATASTROPHES' Defending the administration's response and disaster planning, Chertoff said the hurricane and flood in New Orleans were "two catastrophes" that presented an unprecedented challenge. "That perfect storm of combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners and maybe anybody's foresight," the homeland security chief said. Critics have said the Federal Emergency Management Agency has lost its effectiveness since it became part of the Homeland Security Department in a post-September 11 reorganization. Rice was slammed by critics on the Internet after she attended a New York performance of the Monty Python musical "Spamalot" on Wednesday, a day after New Orleans flooded. After returning to Washington, she defended the administration against charges the slow government response and prolonged suffering of New Orleans' predominantly black storm victims were signs of racial neglect. "That Americans would somehow in a color-affected way decide who to help and who not to help, I just don't believe it," said Rice, the administration's highest-ranking black official. The Washington Post reported on Sunday that Bush administration officials were blaming state and local authorities for the disaster response problems. The newspaper said the administration was rebuffed in an effort to take control of police and National Guard units reporting to Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco, a Democrat. (That's bull****.)
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...0743-9482r.htm Top federal officials left out of loop State and local officials did not inform top federal officials early on of the deaths and lack of food among hurricane victims in the Superdome or convention center, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said yesterday. Mr. Chertoff said neither he nor Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown was told of the deteriorating situation in New Orleans until Thursday night. Do Chertoff and Brown actually believe that people will buy this??? How did we all know it but they didn't?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/20...ands&printer=1
He Held Their Lives in His Tiny Hands BATON ROUGE, La. — In the chaos that was Causeway Boulevard, this group of refugees stood out: a 6-year-old boy walking down the road, holding a 5-month-old, surrounded by five toddlers who followed him around as if he were their leader. They were holding hands. Three of the children were about 2 years old, and one was wearing only diapers. A 3-year-old girl, who wore colorful barrettes on the ends of her braids, had her 14-month-old brother in tow. The 6-year-old spoke for all of them, and he told rescuers his name was Deamonte Love. Thousands of human stories have flown past relief workers in the last week, but few have touched them as much as the seven children who were found wandering together Thursday at an evacuation point in downtown New Orleans. In the Baton Rouge headquarters of the rescue operation, paramedics tried to coax their names out of them; nurses who examined them stayed up that night, brooding. Transporting the children alone was "the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, knowing that their parents are either dead" or that they had been abandoned, said Pat Coveney, a Houston emergency medical technician who put them into the back of his ambulance and drove them out of New Orleans. "It goes back to the same thing," he said. "How did a 6-year-old end up being in charge of six babies?" So far, parents displaced by flooding have reported 220 children missing, but that number is expected to rise, said Mike Kenner of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which will help reunite families. With crowds churning at evacuation points, many children were parted from their parents accidentally; one woman handed her baby up onto a bus, turned around to pick up her suitcase and turned back to find that the bus had left. "When my kids were little I used to lose them in Target, so it's not hard for me to believe," said Nanette White, press secretary for Louisiana's Department of Social Services. "Sometimes little kids just wander off. They're there one second and you blink and they're gone." At the rescue headquarters, a cool tile-floored building swarming with firefighters and paramedics, the children ate cafeteria food and fell into a deep sleep. Deamonte volunteered his vital statistics. He said his father was tall and his mother was short. He gave his address, his phone number and the name of his elementary school. He said that the 5-month-old was his brother, Darynael, and that two others were his cousins, Tyreek and Zoria. The other three lived in his apartment building. The children were clean and healthy — downright plump in the case of the infant, said Joyce Miller, a nurse who examined them. It was clear, she said, that "time had been taken with those kids." The baby was "fat and happy." All evening Thursday as strike teams came and went to the flooded city, volunteer Ron Haynes carried one of the 2-year-old girls back and forth, playing with her until she was calm enough to eat dinner. "This baby child was terrified," he said. "After she relaxed, it was gobble, gobble, gobble." As grim dispatches came in from the field, one woman in the office burst into tears at the thought that the children had been abandoned in New Orleans, said Sharon Howard, assistant secretary of the office of public health. Late the same night, they got an encouraging report: A woman in a shelter in Thibodeaux was searching for seven children. People in the building started clapping at the news. But when they got the mother on the phone, it became clear that she was looking for a different group of seven children, Howard said. "What that made me understand was that this was happening across the state," she said. "That kind of frightened me." The children were transferred to a shelter operated by the Department of Social Services, rooms full of toys and cribs where mentors from the Big Buddy Program were on hand day and night. For the next two days, the staff did detective work. One of the 2-year-olds steadfastly refused to say her name until a worker took her picture with a digital camera and showed it to her. The little girl pointed at it and cried out, "Gabby!" One of the boys — with a halo of curly hair — had a G printed on his T-shirt when he arrived; when volunteers started calling him G, they noticed that he responded. Deamonte began to give more details to Derrick Robertson, a 27-year-old Big Buddy mentor: How he saw his mother cry when he was loaded onto the helicopter. How he promised her he'd take care of his little brother. Late Saturday night, they found Deamonte's mother, who was in a shelter in San Antonio along with the four mothers of the other five children. Catrina Williams, 26, saw her children's pictures on a website set up over the weekend by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. By Sunday, a private plane from Angel Flight was waiting to take the children to Texas. In a phone interview, Williams said she is the kind of mother who doesn't let her children out of her sight. What happened the Thursday after the hurricane, she said, was that her family, trapped in an apartment building on the 3200 block of Third Street in New Orleans, began to feel desperate. The water wasn't going down and they had been living without light, food or air conditioning for four days. The baby needed milk and the milk was gone. So she decided they would evacuate by helicopter. When a helicopter arrived to pick them up, they were told to send the children first and that the helicopter would be back in 25 minutes. She and her neighbors had to make a quick decision. It was a wrenching moment. Williams' father, Adrian Love, told her to send the children ahead. "I told them to go ahead and give them up, because me, I would give my life for my kids. They should feel the same way," said Love, 48. "They were shedding tears. I said, 'Let the babies go.' " His daughter and her friends followed his advice. "We did what we had to do for our kids, because we love them," Williams said. The helicopter didn't come back. While the children were transported to Baton Rouge, their parents wound up in Texas, and although Williams was reassured that they would be reunited, days passed without any contact. On Sunday, she was elated. "All I know is I just want to see my kids," she said. "Everything else will just fall into place." At 3 p.m. Sunday, DSS workers said goodbye to seven children who now had names: Deamonte Love; Darynael Love; Zoria Love and her brother Tyreek. The girl who cried "Gabby!" was Gabrielle Janae Alexander. The girl they called Peanut was Degahney Carter. And the boy whom they called G was actually Lee — Leewood Moore Jr. The children were strapped into car seats and driven to an airport, where they were flown to San Antonio to rejoin their parents. As they were loaded into the van, the shelter workers looked in the windows. The baby gaped with delight in the front seat. Deamonte was hanging onto Robertson's neck so desperately that Robertson decided, at the last minute, to ride with him as far as Lafayette. Shelter worker Kori Thomas held Zoria, 3, who reached out to smooth her eyebrows. Tyreek put a single fat finger on the van window by way of goodbye. Robertson said he doubted the children would remember much of the helicopter evacuation, the Causeway, the sweltering heat or the smell of the flooded city. "I think what's going to stick with them is that they survived Hurricane Katrina," he said. "And that they were loved."
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