Liar, Liar, Now You're Fired

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by dissention

Where do they think all these gay men and women come from in the first place?!

Damn Madonna and Cher for turning us gay!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

But I personally think that as long as American is a christian dominated society then gay marriage will never be offically legalized in most places! Because so many christians disagree with it.

And I disagree. The youth of this country is incredibly tolerant to gay men and women and, based on national polls, they support gay marriage by over 50%. That munber will only grow in the future and when they get the chance to vote on the issue, their voices will be heard. Being a Christian does not automatically make you anti-gay marriage.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Hilary, don't hate yourself. But don't hate others either. That's my advice to you.

That's good advice.

Hillary - I think you should not put all your happiness into marriage - I think that should be the case for anyone gay/straight - we all need to be as happy as possible with ourselves before we can be successful in marriage or any partnership...you're an intelligent and sensetive person - and I hope that find the peace of mind you need :nod

I don't disagree with gay marriage - I think eveyone should have the right to marry - period. If two people love one another then they should be able to express that in marriage if they so wish

[dissention]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I can't call up the previous Dan Rather discussions on this search engine. It rejects the search terms "dan" and "rather" and "CBS" as too short or too common. Bizarre!

I believe the threads took place back in Septmber/October, so if you keep going back in the pages, you should be able to find them

[dissention]

Originally Posted by ryan8472

Maybe it was a fake thread. Oh snap!

I'm lame today.

You? Are a doofus. But a funny one.

[DrummerDeanna]

Oh - and I meant to add - that although you don't have the right to marry now - perhaps you can continue the fight to make it happen - and I think one day it will happen

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by dissention

I believe the threads took place back in Septmber/October, so if you keep going back in the pages, you should be able to find them

OK, I found it using the world "Journalism." So for all who are interested, here it is:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ght=journalism

[The Tower]

I'm gay and I oppose marriage in all its forms. Why on earth would anyone want the government/legal system that much control over their life? However, opposition does not equate limitation. If consensual people want to get married, regardless of orientation- go for it.

Dissie already said it, but I'll say it my way- the heterosexuals that want to deny gays the right to marry are only doing so because of fear, hatred and/or bigotry. That is a plain and simple fact. In case anyone doesn't know the meaning of the word, here it is:

big·ot
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

I have yet to see any reasons for denying gays the right to marry that are not related to fear, hatred and/or bigotry. Neither did the Massachusetts Supreme Court- and that's why they made the decision to legalize gay marriage.

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

Oh - and I meant to add - that although you don't have the right to marry now - perhaps you can continue the fight to make it happen - and I think one day it will happen

I think so, too. The Black movement gives me that hope. They have come a long way.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I think so, too. The Black movement gives me that hope. They have come a long way.

exactly

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by The Tower

big·ot
n.
One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

Hmm. Seems the definitive quality of "bigot" is intolerance, not religion. And I would think that would be what you would highlight.

[Johnny Stew]

Just a quick comment on the article in the initial post... and maybe this has already been stated (I haven't read the entire thread yet)... those who felt Dan Rather should have been fired for lying, should want the same fate to befall George W.

In fact, I'd say what the latter did, was worse than what the former did, as the former didn't cause the deaths of thousands of American men and women with HIS lie.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Hmm. Seems the definitive quality of "bigot" is intolerance, not religion. And I would think that would be what you would highlight.

My emphasis was merely to point out that those who think that religious beliefs are an acceptable reason to deny loving, consensual adults the right to marry qualify as bigots. One does not have to hate to be a bigot, nor does intolerance equal hatred.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

In fact, I'd say what the latter did, was worse than what the former did, as the former didn't cause the deaths of thousands of American men and women with HIS lie.

I won't rationalize or apologize for Rather's behavior. He's a prick and he did so much damage to the credibility of those trying to get rid of that scuzz Dubya. Lies are lies are lies.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

OK, I found it using the world "Journalism." So for all who are interested, here it is:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showth...ght=journalism

Oops, that thread doesn't really say much about the original story, after all - but I've got to go to Latin class soon and don't have time to do much more searching! I've tried several terms to no avail, though. Seems like a new thread on this topic wasn't such a bad idea after all, if the old one is impossible to find.