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SuzeQuze · #**136** 09-28-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

If you mean in the scientific way...yes I suppose. If you mean in the "there is no God and we have no soul or purpose" way...then I have to say I disagree.

You don't think animals have souls? I think they do.

estranged4life · #**137** 09-28-2005, 06:40 PM

an abortion is a fetus, But with a chicken it is an omelet?"-George Carlin

It is so damn hard to keep out of political discussions as much I try (Impossible is the word of the day.) but the way I see abortion is simple:

It is a woman's body, Thus her individual choice....Not to be decided by some tightass, suit wearing political clowns with aspirations for God-hood.

Brian "Never call me a Liberal or a Conservative" j.

GateandGarden · #**138** 09-28-2005, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

If you mean in the scientific way...yes I suppose. If you mean in the "there is no God and we have no soul or purpose" way...then I have to say I disagree.

Whether or not we have souls, etc. doesn't really have anything to do with it.

Regardless of what I meant and/or what Steve meant, humans are still animals.

GateandGarden · #**139** 09-28-2005, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

You don't think animals have souls? I think they do.

Me too.....

chiliD · #**140** 09-28-2005, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SuzeQuze

You don't think animals have souls? I think they do.

I don't "think" they do...I KNOW they do.

GateandGarden · #**141** 09-28-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

I don't "think" they do...I KNOW they do.

I don't see how anyone knows that any creature has a soul.

chiliD · #**142** 09-28-2005, 06:52 PM

Have you had an encounter with a soul from the after-life? human or otherwise?

Johnny Stew · #**143** 09-28-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

I don't see how anyone knows that any creature has a soul.

Well, obviously it's not something we "know" any more than we "know" that human beings have souls.

But if we have souls, then animals most definitely do.

gldstwmn · #**144** 09-28-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WildInTheWind

Is something wrong with planned parenthood?

I go there to get my annuals and pills cause I can't afford health insurance. I'm sure as hell glad it's there.

No, nothing is wrong with Planned Parenthood. In fact, it may surprise a lot of people to know that the late Senator Prescott Bush (George's grandfather) was a big proponent of Planned Parenthood many years ago.

GateandGarden · #**145** 09-28-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD

Have you had an encounter with a soul from the after-life? human or otherwise?

No. What does that have to do with it? Based on your logic, couldn't you say that Brandon knows all of us here on The Ledge are going to hell if we're not Christian? Because he knows that Jesus is the only way to heaven and so on and so forth? I'd say those things are along the same lines.

You can believe something but that doesn't mean you know it, like we know mathematical equations or Newton's laws.

GateandGarden · #**146** 09-28-2005, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

Well, obviously it's not something we "know" any more than we "know" that human beings have souls.

But if we have souls, than animals most definitely do.

I agree in that I believe the same as you do but I'm not sure we could "know" that animals must also have souls if we were to "know" that we do. Many theologians would still say that having a soul is what distinguishes a human from an animal, right? How would we know for certain that they are wrong?

gldstwmn · #**147** 09-28-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by seeker007nmss

Good one!

gldstwmn · #**148** 09-28-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

Well, Mick said "Stevie this is just one more link the chain
And do not FEED THE TROLL, please...."

Ooh...that's from the Cloaks And Daggers CD, right?

Brwn_eyes0511 · #**149** 09-28-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GateandGarden

Well, I want to look at life that way, too. And I do. I have many beliefs about life that some people just don't buy into. My personal beliefs about life that aren't based on science are not points of arguments I bring up during an abortion debate because they are not relevant. The laws of the land don't adhere to particular spiritual/religious beliefs. As Locke would say (not verbatim), we have to let "reason" reign over "passion."

And I agree with you on that. But I think that it is "reasonable" to not want to see the destruction of a generation.

Brwn_eyes0511 · #**150** 09-28-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life

an abortion is a fetus, But with a chicken it is an omelet?"-George Carlin

It is so damn hard to keep out of political discussions as much I try (Impossible is the word of the day.) but the way I see abortion is simple:

It is a woman's body, Thus her individual choice....Not to be decided by some tightass, suit wearing political clowns with aspirations for God-hood.

Brian "Never call me a Liberal or a Conservative" j.

[light hearted]With statements like that bud, it's kind of hard not to label you as a liberal.

[/light hearted]