Rob Thomas, Joss Stone cover Stevie

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I'm sorry I didn't mean to imply that 'you' specifically were calling her names...I was just speaking in general. Sorry for the confusion!

No worries.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

She does, because she speaks the truth...whether anyone likes it or not. The pathetic attempts to disprove her facts by the likes of Al Franken, has been laughable at best. She stirs controversy because of her extremely right-wing views. And she doesn't fit the stereotypical "I'm so dead ugly" politician type that plagues the likes of people like Michael Moore.

Her truth is only by half - she never tells the whole story - Personally, I think you should post that paper you said you wrote. I would love to read it because I think pretty much if her mouth is open, she is lying But, you will never admit that - though you did admit she has better hair than Stevie's - which is a baby step to the truth

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

You can disagree with her all you like and call her names, but you can't call this woman stupid.

As an undergraduate in Cornell University's College of Arts and Sciences, Ann Coulter helped to launch a conservative newspaper, The Cornell Review, with funding provided by the Institute for Educational Affairs' Collegiate Network. She graduated cum laude from Cornell in 1984, and went on to receive her J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School, where she was an editor of The Michigan Law Review. At law school, Coulter shared an apartment with the human and civil rights advocate Cindy Cohn who is now the Legal Director for the Electronic Frontier Foundation. At Michigan, she founded a local chapter of the Federalist Society. She also received training at the National Journalism Center. After practicing corporate law for four years, she became a congressional aide in Washington, D. C. in 1994, working as a staffer to Republican Senator Spencer Abraham, who served on the Senate Judiciary Committee before working for a public interest law firm.

This is not the background of a "stupid" individual. Yet we have "college drop outs" like Michael Moore who gain just as much, or even more attention!

Once again, you use logic to a fallacy. Not to discount the value of an education, but many many high school drop outs are geniuses - to wit:

Famous High School Dropouts
Part Two

Shaun Kerry, M.D.
Diplomate, American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology

• H.G. Wells.......best-selling British author (dropped out to help family earn income; later returned and went on to college)

• Jim Clark........self-made billionaire American businessman; founder of "Netscape"; first Internet billionaire (17, U.S. Navy)

• Jimmy Dean..........singer-songwriter-actor; self-made multimillionaire American businessman; founder of the "Jimmy Dean

• Andrew Jackson......7th U.S. President; face is pictured on the U.S. twenty dollar bill (13, U.S. Continental Army; orphaned at 14; little formal education; home schooling/life experience; studied law in his late teens and became a lawyer)

• Leon Uris..........best-selling American author (Exodus, etc.) (17, U.S. Marines)

• Walter L. Smith.....former president of Florida A&M University (equivalency diploma, at age 23)

• W. Clement Stone....self-made multimillionaire (some sources indicate billionaire) American businessman-author; founder of "Success" magazine (elementary school dropout; later attended high-school night courses and then some college)

• Jack London.......best-selling American author (dropped out at 14 to work; later gained admission to the University of California; left after one semester)

• Arthur Ernest Morgan....American flood-control engineer; college president-author; appointed by President Roosevelt to be director of the Tennessee Valley Authority public works project (left high school after three years; later attended the University of Colorado for six weeks)

• Ray Charles.........singer-pianist; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee

• Cher......Oscar-winning actress-singer

• Maurice Chevalier.... Oscar-winning actor-singer; French Legion of Honor inductee/Medal recipient (note: rank bestowed in 1938

• Pierce Brosnan......actor

• Ellen Burnstyn......Oscar-winning actress

• Raymond Burr.......actor

• Sammy Cahn.......... Oscar-winning American songwriter-composer

• Michael Caine.......Oscar-winning actor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Michael Caine)

• Glen Campbell.......country music star

• Daniel Gilbert......Harvard University psychology professor (equivalency diploma)

• Dizzy Gillespie.....musician-composer (received honorary diploma from high school he attended)

• Patrick Henry.......American Revolutionary War era politician; Virginia's first governor; famous quote: "Give me liberty, or give me death!" (little formal education; home schooling/life experience; later studied on his own and earned a law degree)

• Peter Jennings......Canadian-born American television journalist; evening news anchorman

• Ansel Adams.........American wilderness photographer; photography book author; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Julie Andrews.......Oscar-winning actress-singer

• Louis Armstrong.....singer-musician

• Brooke Astor........wealthy American socialite-philanthropist-author; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Pearl Bailey........singer-actress; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Lucille Ball........actress-comedienne-producer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Bill Bartman........self-made billionaire American businessman

• Count Basie.........bandleader-pianist

• Jack Benny.......... comedian-actor-violinist

• Humphrey Bogart.....Oscar-winning actor

• Peter Bogdanovich....Oscar-nominated American film director-screenwriter (The Last Picture Show, Paper Moon, Mask, etc.)

• Whoopie Goldberg....Oscar-winning actress-comedienne

• Benny Goodman.....bandleader-clarinetist

• Lew Grade.........British film/TV producer (TV: The Avengers, The Saint, Secret Agent, The Prisoner, The Muppet Show, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Lew Grade)

• Philip Emeagwali....supercomputer scientist; one of the pioneers of the Internet (high-IQ high-school dropout; left school in native Nigeria due to war conditions and lack of tuition money; continued to study on his own and earned an equivalency diploma; later won a scholarship to Oregon College of Education in the United States; transferred after one year to Oregon State University)

• Danny Thomas........actor-producer-humanitarian (actor: Make Room for Daddy/The Danny Thomas Show; co-producer: The Dick Van Dyke Show, The Andy Griffith Show, etc.); Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Peter Ustinov.......Oscar-winning actor

• Hiram Stevens.......American-born engineering inventor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Hiram Stevens)

• Patrick Stewart..... actor-writer-producer-director; former captain of the Enterprise on TV's Star Trek: The Next Generation and in films.

• Kemmons Wilson.......self-made multimillionaire American businessman; founder of the "Holiday Inn" hotel chain

• Kjell Inge Rokke.....self-made billionaire Norwegian businessman

• David Puttnam.......Oscar-winning British film producer (Chariots of Fire, Midnight Express, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir David Puttnam)

• Anthony Quinn.......Oscar-winning actor

• Julie London....... singer-actress

• Sophia Loren.......Oscar-winning actress; best-selling Italian-born author; former model (elementary school dropout)

• Joe Louis..........boxer; Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Roy Rogers..........actor-singer-guitarist

• Walter Nash.......New Zealand Prime Minister 1957-1960; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Walter Nash)

• Olivia Newton-John.... singer-actress; British-born Australian author

• Rosa Parks.........U.S. civil rights activist-pioneer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient; Congressional Gold Medal recipient

• Mary Pickford......Oscar-winning actress; early Hollywood pioneer; co-founder of "United Artists Corporation" (little formal education [six months]; home schooling/life experience)

• Sydney Poitier.....Oscar-winning actor (elementary school dropout)

• Frederick "Freddy" Laker.... self-made multimillionaire British businessman; airline entrepreneur; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Frederick [or Freddy] Laker)

• Tommy Lasorda...... baseball team manager; National Baseball Hall of Fame inductee

• David Lean.........Oscar-winning British film director (Lawrence of Arabia, Dr .Zhivago, etc.); knighted (United Kingdom: Sir David Lean)

• Anton van Leeuwenhoek....Dutch microscope maker; world's first microbiologist; discoverer of bacteria, blood cells, and sperm cells)

• Richard Branson.....self-made billionaire British businessman; founder of "Virgin Atlantic Airways," "Virgin Records," etc.; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Richard Branson)

• Isaac Merrit Singer....American sewing machine inventor; self-made multimillionaire founder of "Singer Industries," "I.M. Singer and Company," etc. (elementary school dropout)

• Alfred E. Smith.....New York Governor; 1928 Democratic U.S. Presidential candidate (elementary school dropout)

• Charles Chaplin.....Oscar-winning actor-writer-director-producer; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Charles [or Charlie] Chaplin) (elementary school dropout)

• Sean Connery........Oscar-winning actor; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Sean Connery)

• Jack Kent Cooke.....self-made billionaire Canadian-born American media businessman

• Noel Coward.........Oscar-winning actor-director-producer-playwright-composer; knighted (United Kingdom: Sir Noel Coward) (elementary school dropout)

• Joan Crawford....... Oscar-winning actress; former dancer

• Charles E. Culpeper....self-made multimillionaire American businessman; early 1900s' owner and head of "The Coca Cola Bottling Company"

• Robert De Niro......Oscar-winning actor-producer; knighted (France: Chevalier [Knight] of the Legion of Honor; Chevalier [or Chev.] Robert De Niro)

• Gerard Depardieu....Oscar-nominated actor; knighted (France: Chevalier [or Chev.] Gerard Depardieu) (elementary school dropout)

• Richard Desmond.....self-made billionaire British publisher

• Thomas Dolby........ musician-composer; music producer

• Joe Lewis........self-made billionaire British businessman

• Carl Lindner.......self-made billionaire American businessman

• John Llewellyn.....U.S. Labor leader pioneer; for 40 years until his retirement, president of the United Mine Workers' Union

• Marcus Loew........self-made multimillionaire American businessman; early Hollywood pioneer; founder of the "Loews" movie-theater chain; co-founder of "MGM" studios (elementary school dropout)

• Mary Lyon.........American women's education pioneer; early American teacher; founder of Mount Holyoke College (America's first women's college)

• Sonny Bono...........singer-songwriter-actor; U.S. Congressman (California U.S. Representative)

• Duke Ellington......Oscar-nominated American composer-bandleader; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Ella Fitzgerald.....singer; Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient

• Aretha Franklin....singer; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee

• Horace Greeley.... American newspaper publisher-editor; U.S. Congressman; 1872 U.S. Presidential candidate; co-founder of the Republican party in the United States

• Thomas Haffa......self-made double-digit billionaire German media businessman

• J.R. Simplot.......self-made billionaire American agricultural businessman

• Robert Maxwell.....self-made billionaire British publisher

• Rod McKuen.........best-selling American poet (elementary school dropout)

http://www.education-reform.net/dropouts2.htm

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Ok that was a pointless post. Yes I realize that you don't have to go to college to be considered smart. Some of the most brilliant individuals who have ever lived never went to school!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Her truth is only by half - she never tells the whole story - Personally, I think you should post that paper you said you wrote. I would love to read it because I think pretty much if her mouth is open, she is lying But, you will never admit that - though you did admit she has better hair than Stevie's - which is a baby step to the truth

I said I was in the process of writing a paper. But I would be glad to post others' responses to Al "I hate everyone" Franken's comments on Ann and her work.

[xxxmx]

i didn't read alllllll the other pages, and though i would love to join the coultergeist bashing, i simply don't have the time.

SO...

about that rob&joss performance...

i want to brush that girl's hair and strap some sandals on her, allison just wants her to wear pants to cover up her spider legs. i can not stand that girl. and every performance cements that belief a little more... rob did fine, she killed it for me. allison said "mariah carey might as well have been singing that song" and she's very right. she makes everything sound like it's coming from a southern gospel group. and i like southern gospel groups. but not the kind that joss reminds me of. someone somewhere likened her to janis? bwah... janis nevah would have sold her skanky, ringwormy, shoeless soul to the GAP. put on some shoes and STOP COVERING STEVIE NICKS. joss is now a part of the Axis of Evil, her and each of her fugly toes.

[skcin]

I didn't hate it, but it wasn't great. Slightly better than when Joss ruined Melissa Etheridge's cover of Piece of My Heart.

[GODDESS6]

Originally Posted by skcin

I didn't hate it, but it wasn't great. Slightly better than when Joss ruined Melissa Etheridge's cover of Piece of My Heart.

i agree, it was "cute" & joss seemed to be having fun singing it, but she is no stevie, i also have the joss/melissa cry baby/piece of my heart mp3 & i hate the 1st part w/ joss~ the girl does have a great soulful voice, but the long ooooooooowwwwwwwwww & yeahs & whatever you call the other sounds coming out at the end of ea verse & inbetween ea verse is just too much ~

[tlssln]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I know - but I think this chick is a poser in her antics. I just hate it when singers sing ten notes where one ought to be. Interestingly, that is why I mostly cannot stand Whitney Houston and that ilk - I mean all that hand raising witnessing and a ten minute of note belting to end a song - not for me and IMO an insult to most legit. singers. But - to each their own.

Amen. I despise that, especially when they do it singing the national anthem.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by tlssln

Amen. I despise that, especially when they do it singing the national anthem.

I'd almost rather Rosanne's crotch grabbing version

[tlssln]

Originally Posted by LiquidBlue5000

us liberals don't see things differently, we see things clearly... you conservatives see things that you are told to see.. and you actually believe them

Lmao. I loved the pic too. Right on!

[Macfanforever]

I know what Rob Thomas has done in music. what has Joss Stone have to offer.
I've never herd of her until now.

[Livia]

Did anyone see Rob Thomas on Shelter from the Storm? He did "Time After Time." It wasn't bad. I don't like him, I don't dislike him. I just wish he and Tom Cruise would both get outta the closet already.

[Glittermoondust]

Originally Posted by GODDESS6

i agree, it was "cute" & joss seemed to be having fun singing it, but she is no stevie, i also have the joss/melissa cry baby/piece of my heart mp3 & i hate the 1st part w/ joss~ the girl does have a great soulful voice, but the long ooooooooowwwwwwwwww & yeahs & whatever you call the other sounds coming out at the end of ea verse & inbetween ea verse is just too much ~

I agree Jill! This was the first time I have ever heard her sing and her voice does nothing for me The extra babbling just made it worse!