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Old 04-24-2010, 06:13 PM
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[QUOTE=Nikolaj;885822]A little surprised at Mick. It may be true, but Mick's a bit of a cad for the insinuation that Stevie won't face the public in broad daylight and that's why The Eagles cash-cow tour didn't happen for Fleetwood Mac. It may be part of the reason, but it also may be that Stevie deservedly decided after 'Unleashed' that she might like to see what else she might be able to do, while there's a little time left. I'm so glad that she- and Fleetwood Mac will not be a part of The Eagles tour about to happen.
I don't believe the country 'Rumours' project is taking up a lot of Stevie's time- hey, I can be wrong- but I think her involvement is not overseeing or producing the entire album. I found the comment kind of sour grapes, knows SteI think he vie is working on a solo cd that has nothing to do with the country 'Rumours' release. Could be he is ticked that Stevie wouldn't go into the studio with Fleetwood Mac or say 'yes' to the huge money Eagles pairing, and blamed it on natural light, not maybe that Stevie is a tad sick ( I hope) of the Fleetwood Mac oldies she just spent a year doing, earning Mick a fortune, as well as herself.
But, on the other hand, Mick's keeping the tradition live, a member of Fleetwood Mac being a bit less than charitable about another member, unless they're working together at the moment. Haha, Mick, no Eagles tour money for you!


After reading this entire thread, your posts are the ones i think i agree with the most. Im kind of confused now, because i could have been ok or not ok with the eagles and fleetwoodmac touring together or not together. But people on the board were VIOLENTLY AGAINST THE PAIRING!!! And now that we "know" (read: mick insinuating it was stevie" who made the idea not happen, people are VIOLENTLY AGAINST!!!! Fleetwood mac not still together to go on YET ANOTHER tour. AND no one ever said that she was NOT working on a solo album, we have nothing to believe that the country album and the dave stewart thing are the same. AS SOME HAVE INSINUATED. Mick is just being pissy because hes now gonna have to SELL ALOTTA WINE, TAKE ALOTTA PICTURES, AND PLAY ALLOTTA BAMITZVAS (Sp?) to even come CLOSE to the cash he would have made otherwise. AND when Mr. Buckingham "held up" fleetwood mac to go "do his own thing" that was all fine and good and he was as usual praised for his "Brilliance" but now that the platform boot is on the other foot, some people want to "burn the witch" just because they hate country music.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:16 PM
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I am hopeful that Stevie is working on new music, and I look forward to hearing it, and was muy happy to hear the piece that Dave leaked out to us. That's evidence that something is really happening. We often hear that songs are being written, journals are being kept, but the fact that we actually got to hear something, no matter what stage it's in, is exciting to me.

About set lists during tours, I don't think Stevie particularly cares what we think (she's never sought that sort of information from us, and she's got a website where she could)--in fact, I don't think she has a clue what some folks think here. People at the shows pay the money and they cheer. They sing along, and dance along to her stuff, and they buy the shirts, etc. It's all positive reinforcement to Stevie that something is working to her. She doesn't take polls. She doesn't take requests. Her assessment is from the stage. Stevie is the boss of her solo career, and she is the one stuck up on the stage having to belt it out--her evaluation of her own work is done LIVE, and she probably sees the replays. In her mind it's all working. She's having fun, and so she continues doing it.

She is a multi millionare boss , the one that pays all her employees. There's not too many of her solo employees that can actually challenge her, if you think about it, as she is in control of the payroll. I don't see Jimmy Paxson or Brett Tuggle or Carlos Rios saying, "You know Stevie, folks are getting 'sick & tired' of hearing Landslide. They hear it with Fleetwood Mac, they hear it solo, they hear various covers of it- isn't it overkill?" You think Darryl Smith or Taku would want to approach her? Maybe Al Ortiz? Hey, they are just happy to be out on the road working, and she takes pretty good care of them. If anyone came up to Stevie that way, can you see Stevie's head just exploding, since she sees and hears the audiences' response every time she does it. The audience sings along.

How many of Stevie's paid employees, including Sharon, Lori or Jana would feel comfortable asking Stevie to "shake it up a little bit." Lori posted on the Nicks Fix that "Nightbird" is one of her favorite songs that she ever sang with Stevie. You have to believe Stevie knows Lori loved that song. For whatever reason, she doesn't sing it. It's different in Fleetwood Mac, she's said that many times. It's much easier with FM as she doesn't have to make all the decisions, but solo wise, as Waddy's Q&A points out, "Hey, it's her show. She's got to be comfortable [with the set list/song choices] or we're going to be in trouble." She won't be smiling, and it's going to show.

For those sick of the set list, I suggest you limit the number of shows you attend. Seriously. You don't have to go to any shows, and certainly not more than one show on a tour. You know by now the set list doesn't vary much night to night. It is Stevie's thing. She's going to do what she wants to do. You know that your best chance of hearing something new is opening night, and after that, songs stand a good chance of getting dropped. This is true for Stevie whether she's in Fleetwood Mac or solo. You get to vote with your wallet and your feet.

I'm hoping we get more new stuff. I hope I get to see her this summer. I really do. Country Rumours? Not sure what that's about. Stevie's got a country background. Carrie Underwood just won entertainer of the year, and there are definitely some good voices out there. I don't know if Stevie intends to be on a cover album of the band's album--but I am curious to see what comes of that. Yes, I'll probably buy it. I bought the Camper Van Beethoven/Tusk cover, and the Legacy album--totally different, but I enjoyed them. I admit after buying them I rarely play them. But I am curious! Especially upon hearing that Stevie has some sort of interest and input in it.
I also love this post. And enjoyed both the LEGACY tribute album and parts of the CAMPER VAN BEETHOVEN Tusk for what they were. I dont think they "tainted" the music or the legacy.
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Old 04-24-2010, 06:24 PM
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Wow,just the the I've been waiting for ages ago..Fleetwood Mac Goes country.Sorry non country lovers about busting balls.I just can see FM on the Grand Ole Opry,kicking a$$.also cleaning up the CMA and the ACM awards too.eat your heart out Taylor.
I KNEW you would weigh in on this! "George Jones" is not what country even sounds like anymore. you and I both know that. "County" is more what "rock" and "folk rock" used to be. if they re-released Buckingham Nicks, "the country audience" could REALLY enjoy that style of song. and there are alot of "crossover" things being done now, lady antebellum , jewel, carrie underwood, and the show country crossovers has done very well. My favorite being martina mcbride and pat benatar. that rocked. Country is not all bad people.
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I think Tango's & Nicolaj's posts are bang on. Also, as a fan, Stevie doesn't owe me anything. It's my choice whether or not I continue to support her/go to her shows/buy the merchandise, etc. I also have the choice, that if she isn't giving as much as I would like, to move on. There is nothing that requires me to continue to follow every move she makes. I haven't any rights to make any demands on her or bitch about how she spends her time. Would I absolutely love for her to put out a new album, solo & FM, every couple of years? Of course! However, if we never get another song/album from her, I'll be grateful for all she has done and the songs she has written because they mean something to me.

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Old 04-24-2010, 06:30 PM
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I'm upset that Stevie is being made a villain in this. Unfair. And why? Because Mick's pissed he's not getting tour money with The Eagles. He has his side projects, and good for him.
I think Stevie is the hero here. No-way is she holding up progress with Fleetwood Mac by not doing another rehash tour, this time with the freakin Eagles!

Even if Stevie had said 'yes' to recording with Fleetwood Mac right away, there wouldn't have been time (how?) to finish a new Fleetwood Mac cd before The Eagles tour starts- Lindsey, brilliant as he is, isn't exactly smooth sailing in the studio, and they never did settle on an outside producer for the cd. The Eagles tour starts any minute, now. So, Mick just seems pissed he missed out on another mega tour, where, likely, Fleetwood Mac would have revisited a shorter version of their 'Unleashed' set.

I didn't read anywhere that Stevie will be singing (!) on the entire 'Country Rumours' album, where did that come from? We knew months ago of Stevie's involvement with Michele Branch on the project. There was no indication, ever, that Stevie was involved with working on the entire 'Country Rumours' album
. Did Mick even say that in this interview?

Stevie actually showed more integrity than anyone here seems to have noticed, by saying NO to Fleetwood Mac so soon after Unleashed ended! You think Mick's all upset they didn't get into a studio right away for a new Fleetwood Mac album? F*** No- he wanted the Eagles tour money. Why else would he rag on her about lighting and performing in daylight? Such issues are recording-studio related? He's disappointed, and after Stevie and Lindsey just earned him a fortune on Unleashed.
No way will any of Stevie's solo dates be as many dates as The Eagles tour. So, she may actually be able to finish her solo cd, which has nothing to do with the 'Country Rumours' project, do some dates without fully depleting herself, and we may even get 2 or 3 new songs at her solo shows, who the hell knows.
Stevie then may be ready for Fleetwood Mac in 2011, with no tour with The Eagles to interfere with the recording.
I think the criticism leveled at Stevie in this thread has been too severe. I wouldn't blame her if she told Mick to shove Fleetwood Mac and go perform in natural light with Bekka Bramlett and Dave Mason. Really, Mick went too far with the comment, the gal soon turns 62, and without her (and Lindsey) he wouldn't have made the MANY millions he has on the last two tours. You're a cad, Mick Fleetwood.
Louie, your fire graphic; while nicely done, even though likely a joke, I kind of want to cry. I know, time to get the meds checked again, go ahead, laugh. It's kewl
All good points.
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I'm not knocking Stevie in any way whatsoever or saying I won't support her participation in this project if it happens - I'm simply not a fan of country music and could not see myself every really getting into the songs if they were done this way but you never know. All I'm saying is for Stevie to actually be working on something new (you know what I mean) that's going to be released I would prefer pretty much any genre over county. Opera perhaps ? Being the intrinsically musical person that I am I find it difficult to connect and really feel the essence of country music and/or appreciate it. It's not really a choice, it's just a feeling...
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I'm not knocking Stevie in any way whatsoever or saying I won't support her participation in this project if it happens - I'm simply not a fan of country music and could not see myself every really getting into the songs if they were done this way but you never know. All I'm saying is for Stevie to actually be working on something new (you know what I mean) that's going to be released I would prefer pretty much any genre over county. Opera perhaps ? Being the intrinsically musical person that I am I find it difficult to connect and really feel the essence of country music and/or appreciate it. It's not really a choice, it's just a feeling...
It's humorous that you would have an adversion to country music when you were all over that demo thread trying to collect as much music as possible. Most of those demos are country tinged songs. Heck, a lot of the Bella Donna album was borderline country.
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Nikolaj, Phoenix and GypsyBlueEyes; I agree with your comments. I do believe Stevie has earned the right at this point in her career to do whatever the hell wishes (of course she was entitled to do that from day one in my opinion).
I am hopeful that a solo album will see the light of day within the next 18 months and until then, anything else (eg the Rumours tribute album) that comes along will be welcomed by me. I'm not overly keen on another album of cover versions but if there's one or two tracks that work, that's fine with me. I'm keen to hear what Stevie did with Michelle Branch and let's face it, if they recorded "Say You Love Me" as a country track, that's not too removed from the version featured on "The Dance" album.
I wonder if pesky old Mick even has his facts correct? Has he perhaps just presumed that the album will be in a country style or is he aware of one or two country artists being involved? Don Was is not a renowned producer of country music, his roots are in dance, soul and blues but he tends to favour an acoustic approach. As much as I wouldn't want him producing Stevie's album (I'm still trying to forget "Somebody Stand By Me"), his involvement in this project may be a major plus. I daresay he will keep the cheese factor to a minimum (trotters crossed).
I imagine Stevie's input will be more as an executive producer, overseeing here and there, as well as possibly being a reference point for both Don and the contributing artists. I doubt whether this will take up much of her time in the grand scheme of things. Who knows, perhaps reacquainting herself with all of these songs from a technical standpoint might inspire her current writing spree?
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Whatever you do Stevie I'll be happy.. As the years go by TIME for her is running thin and I think all sorts will be signed over in the next 5 years regarding her music, art and rights to a film.

This Rumours rehash will probably sell well.. Think of all the people who like country and know Rumours but don't have strong love for Mac and Stevie?? Surely they'll be interested.. Country music does well in the U.S and over here in Oz.. (Keith Urban).. So chances are the artists contributing will be well known an loved by some furthermore giving reason to buy it.. If Taylor Swift and/or Miley Cyrus appear on it (much to my dislike... Except for that song Miley sings with John Travolta I actually enjoy that) well then that opens another door of "tweens" buying it..
Then there is us who will also more than likely buy.. Thats a demographic not reached by any of the Mac albums since Tusk probably..

There isn't a chance in hell Stevie would let Fleetwood Mac record an album without her.. She'd be pissed as all hell.. As would I..
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Nicks, he reports, is currently teamed with Grammy- winning producer Don Was, compiling a country version of Mac's epic "Rumours" album. "There will be another version of 'Rumous,' with some fairly well-known country artists,"
Another version of Rumours you say?

I guess it will fit nicely on the shelf by
Legacy: A Tribute To Fleetwood Mac's Rumours (1998).
Since that was Micks' version of Rumours we will see how Stevie's
compares to his. Kind of a Jewel vs. Miley thing.

"Rumous"(^), I don't have that album.
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I am hopeful that Stevie is working on new music, and I look forward to hearing it, and was muy happy to hear the piece that Dave leaked out to us. That's evidence that something is really happening. We often hear that songs are being written, journals are being kept, but the fact that we actually got to hear something, no matter what stage it's in, is exciting to me.

About set lists during tours, I don't think Stevie particularly cares what we think (she's never sought that sort of information from us, and she's got a website where she could)--in fact, I don't think she has a clue what some folks think here. People at the shows pay the money and they cheer. They sing along, and dance along to her stuff, and they buy the shirts, etc. It's all positive reinforcement to Stevie that something is working to her. She doesn't take polls. She doesn't take requests. Her assessment is from the stage. Stevie is the boss of her solo career, and she is the one stuck up on the stage having to belt it out--her evaluation of her own work is done LIVE, and she probably sees the replays. In her mind it's all working. She's having fun, and so she continues doing it.

She is a multi millionare boss , the one that pays all her employees. There's not too many of her solo employees that can actually challenge her, if you think about it, as she is in control of the payroll. I don't see Jimmy Paxson or Brett Tuggle or Carlos Rios saying, "You know Stevie, folks are getting 'sick & tired' of hearing Landslide. They hear it with Fleetwood Mac, they hear it solo, they hear various covers of it- isn't it overkill?" You think Darryl Smith or Taku would want to approach her? Maybe Al Ortiz? Hey, they are just happy to be out on the road working, and she takes pretty good care of them. If anyone came up to Stevie that way, can you see Stevie's head just exploding, since she sees and hears the audiences' response every time she does it. The audience sings along.

How many of Stevie's paid employees, including Sharon, Lori or Jana would feel comfortable asking Stevie to "shake it up a little bit." Lori posted on the Nicks Fix that "Nightbird" is one of her favorite songs that she ever sang with Stevie. You have to believe Stevie knows Lori loved that song. For whatever reason, she doesn't sing it. It's different in Fleetwood Mac, she's said that many times. It's much easier with FM as she doesn't have to make all the decisions, but solo wise, as Waddy's Q&A points out, "Hey, it's her show. She's got to be comfortable [with the set list/song choices] or we're going to be in trouble." She won't be smiling, and it's going to show.

For those sick of the set list, I suggest you limit the number of shows you attend. Seriously. You don't have to go to any shows, and certainly not more than one show on a tour. You know by now the set list doesn't vary much night to night. It is Stevie's thing. She's going to do what she wants to do. You know that your best chance of hearing something new is opening night, and after that, songs stand a good chance of getting dropped. This is true for Stevie whether she's in Fleetwood Mac or solo. You get to vote with your wallet and your feet.

I'm hoping we get more new stuff. I hope I get to see her this summer. I really do. Country Rumours? Not sure what that's about. Stevie's got a country background. Carrie Underwood just won entertainer of the year, and there are definitely some good voices out there. I don't know if Stevie intends to be on a cover album of the band's album--but I am curious to see what comes of that. Yes, I'll probably buy it. I bought the Camper Van Beethoven/Tusk cover, and the Legacy album--totally different, but I enjoyed them. I admit after buying them I rarely play them. But I am curious! Especially upon hearing that Stevie has some sort of interest and input in it.
Thanks for keeping it real! Like many die hard Stevie fans, I often think I know exactly what Stevie is doing wrong and the perfect way the fix everything. But you did sum up her perspective on things, particularly her setlist of choice, quite clearly. Though I still don't like it, it all makes perfect sense now.

Thanks again for your insights!
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It's humorous that you would have an adversion to country music when you were all over that demo thread trying to collect as much music as possible. Most of those demos are country tinged songs. Heck, a lot of the Bella Donna album was borderline country.
I collect as much music as I possibly can when it comes to Stevie, country or not. It doesn't mean those are songs I listen to on a regular basis and love and adore . And quite frankly, what's it to you? And, I would hesitate to say most of the demos in that thread are county. Some are, but most is stretching it.
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I collect as much music as I possibly can when it comes to Stevie, country or not. It doesn't mean those are songs I listen to on a regular basis and love and adore . And quite frankly, what's it to you? And, I would hesitate to say most of the demos in that thread are county. Some are, but most is stretching it.
I'll tell ya what it is: It's COUNTRY!
Donnie and Marie sang it best: I'm a little bit country. I'm alittle bit rock-n-roll. There you have it missy.

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I'll tell ya what it is: It's COUNTRY!
Donnie and Marie sang it best: I'm a little bit country. I'm alittle bit rock-n-roll. There you have it missy.
Classic country is incredible. Modern day country is completely stupid. When they sang this song that is what they were talking about, not "You Belong With Me".

When it is confirmed that Loretta Lynn and Conway Twitty are doing "I Don't Wanna Know", I will be interested in this project.
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The Men of Mac? I can't believe Lindsey wants to do something like that?!?!?! Gahhh, new solo album from him please!
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