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[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Stevie has not always spoken positive about A Night of 1000 Stevies. Going way back to the early days of the internet and Nicksfix (mid-late 1990s), there was an interview posted where she was asked about it. I think the event may have only happened a few years then. Her exact quote was "I think its really scary." Even for the mid to late 1990s I was shocked at her response since gay acceptance was fairly normal then and people were praising her by posing as her.
I was not impressed with Stevie's MTV's Fanatic episode where the gay girl reveals to Stevie she was thrown out of her house and scraped money together to buy Bella Donna to get her through her hard times. I don't think Stevie is homophobic but she just sat there without much concern. It was a moment she should have stood up and hugged the girl. Stevie's first agent David Forest was gay. I think sometimes peoples statements or actions dont alway portray them in the best light.

She was completely justified in attacking the Madonna/Brittany tongue kiss and doing so is not homophobic. Anyone gay/straight that sticks their tongues together on live TV just for shock value deserves any criticism they get. If they were truly a couple and had a passionate kiss then it would be different. It was done for shock value and those performer's music sucks so bad they had to resort to such tactics to be talked about. I also applaud Stevie for stating she wanted to strangle Nicki Minaj to death
Stevie stated she was going to sing Landslide to Hillary Clinton in 2016 expecting her to win in a landslide. I dont think she likes Trump one bit. But Hillary invited Stevie to the White House in 2000 when Christine politely declined to show up.
I was at the Dance show in West Palm Beach in 1997 and Donald Trump was in the second row.

Wow, this is a twist, but I agree with virtually everything you said. I vaguely remember the MTV show where she spoke to a fan- I believe Bryan Adams was also on that same episode, and they were night and day. Stevie had that formal interview with the fan before a concert, while Bryan let his fan spend the day at his house, and they played video games and jumped off the roof of his house into the pool. I felt disappointed for Stevie’s fan.

Your comments about the kiss were spot on- it was done purely for shock value. I also think it was Madonna’s attempt to “stay relevant” and it succeeded, something Stevie has done too, though mostly in words, not actions. At the same time, even though I totally agree the kiss was for shock value, I have to admit, it may have helped open the door for showing gay people kissing on tv. I remember all too well when gay folks could only look longingly at each other or hug, or when the camera would cut away just as they were about to kiss. A double edged sword, I guess.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Wow, this is a twist, but I agree with virtually everything you said. I vaguely remember the MTV show where she spoke to a fan- I believe Bryan Adams was also on that same episode, and they were night and day. Stevie had that formal interview with the fan before a concert, while Bryan let his fan spend the day at his house, and they played video games and jumped off the roof of his house into the pool. I felt disappointed for Stevie’s fan.

Your comments about the kiss were spot on- it was done purely for shock value. I also think it was Madonna’s attempt to “stay relevant” and it succeeded, something Stevie has done too, though mostly in words, not actions. At the same time, even though I totally agree the kiss was for shock value, I have to admit, it may have helped open the door for showing gay people kissing on tv. I remember all too well when gay folks could only look longingly at each other or hug, or when the camera would cut away just as they were about to kiss. A double edged sword, I guess.

So what then of Stevie at 55 not being supportive of women kissing on stage but at age 72 singing “see my lips on her mouth.” Stevie went where the wind went which is where Sheryl Louis management told her where to go. Would she have said what she said about Lil Nas X kissing people on stage at age 55 too? Or was it only women she has a problem with kissing?
Madonna kissed women in the 80s and even performed oral sex with women in the book, Sex in her 30s. Vanilla Ice left her because of that. And if you watch Justin Timberlake’s face during the 2003 VMA kiss, he was disgusted or angry. Stevie at 55 was not progressive.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Madonna kissed women in the 80s and even performed oral sex with women in the book, Sex in her 30s. Vanilla Ice left her because of that. And if you watch Justin Timberlake’s face during the 2003 VMA kiss, he was disgusted or angry. Stevie at 55 was not progressive.

I don’t disagree at all about Stevie not being progressive. But I’m not sure which of your comments about Madonna disturbed me more- that Madonna was photographed performing oral sex on anybody for a book, or that she had dated Vanilla Ice. Both are pretty disturbing LOL!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

I don’t disagree at all about Stevie not being progressive. But I’m not sure which of your comments about Madonna disturbed me more- that Madonna was photographed performing oral sex on anybody for a book, or that she had dated Vanilla Ice. Both are pretty disturbing LOL!

I have always believed Stevie was very progressive. She is traditional in being a woman in dress and such. But being in rock bands with men she has to have a fairly liberal mind. Conservation used to be a conservative issue but the last quarter century conservation is considered a liberal cause. She openly supported Greenpeace which was tagged a terrorist organization by several governments. They promoted conservation by doing reckless acts that endangered lives. You dont hear that much about them these days but when they were at her concerts in booths, it was fairly radical. I am not saying Stevie supported those radical acts. But she supported and encouraged others to support them.
In 1998 during her Edge Walk she grabbed both my hands and gave me an interesting look because of my tank top. It said "Rock Hard." I was honored that I saw her acknowledging me and reading my shirt but she did not look thrilled. But it was a play on words. In those days I was pretty fit and it meant more about the body than sexual stuff. It was a great shirt and got her attention. I remember looking into her eyes and saw her puzzled and irked look.