Mike Campbell talks about FM in New interview

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

She's had the luxury of being saved so many times. What's worse is that she thinks she's done it all on her own. Oh wait, Tom helped her.

Stevie needed the reunion the least of the lot. Remember, her rock bottom still peaked at #45, the same as Go Insane.

While the other four could have done something moderately successful without Stevie, Christine was clearly doing the reunion as her grand sendoff, so there would be no way to follow it up (not that Lindsey did, anyway). If forced to be a band without either of the ladies, the three guys would have become a theater/package tour band. So, in that sense, Stevie has saved them, too. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Stevie needed the reunion the least of the lot. Remember, her rock bottom still peaked at #45, the same as Go Insane.

While the other four could have done something moderately successful without Stevie, Christine was clearly doing the reunion as her grand sendoff, so there would be no way to follow it up (not that Lindsey did, anyway). If forced to be a band without either of the ladies, the three guys would have become a theater/package tour band. So, in that sense, Stevie has saved them, too. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship.

I saw her on the Time Space tour. I had 3rd row and she looked right into my face and I saw a true ghost in the fog. She was barely in there. It made me sad. I agree that it was mutual benefits for all involved. Without her, they have to be really creative to continue. Thank goodness for Christine's hits.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I saw her on the Time Space tour. I had 3rd row and she looked right into my face and I saw a true ghost in the fog. She was barely in there. It made me sad.

I didn’t see that tour, but the BTM tour, and it was the same kind of vibe for me. I was thrilled when she left and they brought on Bekka Bramlett.

I agree that it was mutual benefits for all involved. Without her, they have to be really creative to continue. Thank goodness for Christine's hits.

They could have had a set full of hits without her that would have been moderately successful. I think people would have been pleasantly surprised.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I didn’t see that tour, but the BTM tour, and it was the same kind of vibe for me. I was thrilled when she left and they brought on Bekka Bramlett.


They could have had a set full of hits without her that would have been moderately successful. I think people would have been pleasantly surprised.

I saw BTM in Cleveland (Richfield) and was shocked at how Christine took control. She and Rick took the lead most of the time. Stevie was gonzo, just spinning and going thru the motions. At this time I was really worried about Stevie Nicks. It saddened me how she was twirling at half speed and the look on her face was... "duhhhhh..." And I'm not mocking her, it was just sad.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I saw BTM in Cleveland (Richfield) and was shocked at how Christine took control. She and Rick took the lead most of the time. Stevie was gonzo, just spinning and going thru the motions. At this time I was really worried about Stevie Nicks. It saddened me how she was twirling at half speed and the look on her face was... "duhhhhh..." And I'm not mocking her, it was just sad.

Completely get it and completely agree. It was hard to watch.

I also agree about Christine and Rick. They really made the show for me. “Stop Messin’ Round” was the highlight of the night for me.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Completely get it and completely agree. It was hard to watch.

I also agree about Christine and Rick. They really made the show for me. “Stop Messin’ Round” was the highlight of the night for me.

Tear it Up was great, too! Also, Loved Another Woman and Isn't It Midnight.
I loved how they didn't open with The Chain. Stand On The Rock was solid.

I heard this tour kind of Peter'd out at the end. But, the crowd in Cleveland went completely nuts for them. One of my favorite shows in memory. Extreme high energy.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Stevie needed the reunion the least of the lot. Remember, her rock bottom still peaked at #45, the same as Go Insane.

While the other four could have done something moderately successful without Stevie, Christine was clearly doing the reunion as her grand sendoff, so there would be no way to follow it up (not that Lindsey did, anyway). If forced to be a band without either of the ladies, the three guys would have become a theater/package tour band. So, in that sense, Stevie has saved them, too. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship.

Classic Steve playbook. The old Lindsey vs Stevie sales comparison. We’re talking about Stevie, but let’s drag Lindsey into this to distract from what we’re actually talking about. Predictable.

[BigAl84]

It’s hilarious that people cannot admit that the reunion saved her a$$ without folks snapping back like a five year old screaming “but he started it!!!!” By providing the old “they would be nothing without her” argument which then devolves into sales comparisons and the same tired arguments of worshippers.

It’s not rocket science, yes the darn reunion tour helped them all. It certainly helped some more than others...but that has somehow become something that nobody likes to admit without taking pot shots at other band members.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

It’s hilarious that people cannot admit that the reunion saved her a$$ without folks snapping back like a five year old screaming “but he started it!!!!” By providing the old “they would be nothing without her” argument which then devolves into sales comparisons and the same tired arguments of worshippers.

It’s not rocket science, yes the darn reunion tour helped them all. It certainly helped some more than others...but that has somehow become something that nobody likes to admit without taking pot shots at other band members.

Reality check: Out of the Cradle peaked at #128, Street Angel #45, Time didn’t crack the Top 200, and the two big alternative rock covers were of Stevie songs. Only one member of the band was still remotely viable.

It’s not snapping back, it’s putting things into perspective. It’s pointing out your overstatement with, you know, facts.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Reality check: Out of the Cradle peaked at #128, Street Angel #45, Time didn’t crack the Top 200, and the two big alternative rock covers were of Stevie songs. Only one member of the band was still remotely viable.

It’s not snapping back, it’s putting things into perspective. It’s pointing out your overstatement with, you know, facts.

Yeah dude and the effing fact is Stevie greatly benefited from the dance reunion. The other members of the band did in other ways as well. That’s the point.

I still don’t understand your need to inject sales stats into a pretty basic statement that doesn’t even need record sales stats. It isn’t a freaking contest yet people insist on turning it into a stupid contest about singles charting.

Your entire response proves my point. Instead of saying yeah she benefited from the reunion...you went on some whim to say she needed the reunion the least because her rock bottom single charted the same as Lindsey’s?

[BigAl84]

Oh and before you lecture me on facts, do I need to copy and paste the many, many quotes stating Lindsey left Fleetwood Mac because it was just getting too crazy, in the studio and on the road? It wasn’t exactly a “I quit to jump start my solo career” situation.

And boohoo about Christine having contractual obligations. Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine have all had to fulfill contracts along the way just as any recording artist does.

But like I said...Christine alllwaaayyss gets the golden ticket. Same standards that we hold Lindsey and Stevie conveniently don’t apply.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Oh and before you lecture me on facts, do I need to copy and paste the many, many quotes stating Lindsey left Fleetwood Mac because it was just getting too crazy, in the studio and on the road? It wasn’t exactly a “I quit to jump start my solo career” situation.

And we can find quotes where he talked about resenting having to put his solo project on hold to make a Fleetwood Mac album and the quotes where says there was always an understanding that he would resume his solo work after TITN was finished. I don’t doubt it was a crazy session, but he was ready to be done before it even started.

And boohoo about Christine having contractual obligations.

She wasn’t contractually obligated to do that album, what are you ranting about? The label noticed Stevie’s success and pressured Christine to give it a try. Since Fleetwood Mac was going into indefinite hiatus, she decided to do it. She had fun, but it ultimately wasn’t her thing. Just as with Christine Perfect, she still didn’t like being the lone front woman and preferred being in a band. Again, unlike the other two, Christine didn’t aspire to be a solo artist. Why would she when she had most of Fleetwood Mac’s Top 40 hits?

[soul_drifter333]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Oh and before you lecture me on facts, do I need to copy and paste the many, many quotes stating Lindsey left Fleetwood Mac because it was just getting too crazy, in the studio and on the road? It wasn’t exactly a “I quit to jump start my solo career” situation.

And boohoo about Christine having contractual obligations. Stevie, Lindsey, and Christine have all had to fulfill contracts along the way just as any recording artist does.

But like I said...Christine alllwaaayyss gets the golden ticket. Same standards that we hold Lindsey and Stevie conveniently don’t apply.

Oh, he does like to argue, debate and push your buttons...if you let him. I stop reading his posts a long time ago.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

Your entire response proves my point. Instead of saying yeah she benefited from the reunion...

I never said she didn’t benefit from the reunion, I said it didn’t save her ass. She was still somewhat viable. The reunion saved the other four’s asses. They were not viable. My point is that Stevie could have done it without the band, although I’ve also acknowledged that it wouldn’t have had as great an impact.

you went on some whim to say she needed the reunion the least because her rock bottom single charted the same as Lindsey’s?

I wasn’t talking about singles, I was talking about album sales. And, the point was Stevie’s rock bottom album peaked at #45 and people like you act like her career was in the tank. However, nobody makes the same kind of comment about Go Insane, which was Lindsey’s second highest charting album, which also peaked at #45. Nobody says Lindsey’s career was in the tank until TITN saved his ass. Just a little hypocrisy.

The numbers provide a little reality check. Lindsey wasn’t viable anymore and Fleetwood Mac without any of the Rumours singer-songwriters fronting the band on stage wasn’t viable, but Stevie was still moderately viable.

Again, all she needed was to quit smoking, lose weight, get a makeover, adopt the godmotherly rock survivor persona, and work with younger, relevant artists like Sheryl Crow, Dave Grohl, etc. Her path back to relevance realistically didn’t require Fleetwood Mac.

HOWEVER, I think Stevie would be too jealous to let the other four do a reunion like that without her. Skipping a new studio album is one thing, but a skipping massive reunion event like that which would have still been loaded with hits would possibly call into question her importance to the band, and she wasn’t about to let that happen.

[UnwindedDreams]

Steve... just curious and hoped to ask you:
Did Lindsey earn anything on his own throughout his life?