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Old 06-20-2018, 11:23 AM
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The thread has reminded me of the website Mick Fleetwood operated many years ago. Anyone remember it? There was a forum, as I recall, run by a guy whom webbies took to calling "Toad." Was his name Jonathan Something-That-Rhymes-With-Toad? Or Todd? He seemed hellbent on convincing everyone how sweet and ethical a guy Mick was.

We were all really excited at first and jammed the place with chatter. But something started smelling after about a month or two—the admin began acting like a dick, appointing a small group of sycophants as his police cadre, who of course proceeded to ban strong-minded individuals right and left (because what else does a fan forum do but ban fans who don't fit the mold?). Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely should be the motto of every failed Fleetwood Mac web forum. Anyway, this place died out after about a year. There was even a meet and greet with Mick — exorbitantly priced and pushed on fans relentlessly. Forum goers finally got the idea that maybe the caring and sharing and chitchat weren't really the purpose of this site after all; maybe they were being used as customers bordering on bunco victims. Many forum users complained about the cost or the chintziness of the product . . . BAM they were out. Other fans defended them . . . BAM they were out. The more timid fans admitted that, yes, Mick could be a greedy bastard sometimes . . . BAM they were out too.

The site was insufferably puritanical and self-righteous, a lot like the Nicks Fix under John Kinney (who once kick-banned me out of a chat for discussing great James Bond villainesses—I mentioned Pussy Galore).

And let's not even get into the fan club debacle that Mick and Jonathan Todd cooked up. It was marketed as the most interactive tour they will have ever had done, mick was going to make behind the scenes videos every week and all this talk. Membership included tix in the first so many rows.

Long story short...they took peoples cash and didn't deliver half of what they said they were going to deliver. Fan Club seats were in the back of the house...there may have been one or two videos posted at the onset of the tour and it was radio silence after that. It was so bad, fans were showing up wearing t-shirts and signs calling out both Mick and this Todd dude over the whole debacle.

Side note: two years or so somebody purchased a storage locker at auction and it must of belonged to either Todd or somebody in Micks camp because it was loaded with Mick Fleetwood wine related items, stacks of the DVD-Audio version of Say You Will, drum heads, drum sticks, posters for his costco cash grab appearances that nobody attended, all Mick related items.
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Old 06-20-2018, 11:32 AM
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I forgot to add - for anyone wondering why people may feel the way they feel and may come across as bitter as they are....this crap with Mick and his BS has been ongoing for YEARS. And I can only say I've been a fan since '97.

A lot of the bad feelings here are not just because of the most recent events, but because this is the icing on the sh*t cake that has been in process for the better part of 15 years and they've really outdone themselves this time.

It used to be more concentrated to just Mick and his sketchy business ventures, but it's clearly spilled over into other band decisions.

Mick will be the first person to send folks packing and the first person to invite them back when it's convenient for his wallet.
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I forgot to add - for anyone wondering why people may feel the way they feel and may come across as bitter as they are....this crap with Mick and his BS has been ongoing for YEARS. And I can only say I've been a fan since '97.

A lot of the bad feelings here are not just because of the most recent events, but because this is the icing on the sh*t cake that has been in process for the better part of 15 years and they've really outdone themselves this time.

It used to be more concentrated to just Mick and his sketchy business ventures, but it's clearly spilled over into other band decisions.

Mick will be the first person to send folks packing and the first person to invite them back when it's convenient for his wallet.
I agree with all this- I’ve been a fan since ‘93. What a parade of squandered opportunities. I especially agree that if this latest Mac iteration doesn’t go over too well financially, Mick will be the first to call Lindsey up. Which I firmly believe will happen. And for those who think this band is over after this tour, I don’t believe that for a second. As long as Mick lives and breathes, he’ll keep the band touring... regardless of who’s in it. His energy is only second to Lindsey’s... I wouldn’t count him out for many years to come!
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