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Old 05-21-2018, 12:42 PM
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I guess we just keep pouring venom on the remaining members of the band and worshipping the fired saint, a former abuser of women with anger issues, who wanted to make another FM album which would have been heavily loaded with his own woefully unpopular solo songs which ruined the last several albums and made sales mediocre.
Last several albums?
There's been exactly one Fleetwood Mac studio album with Lindsey since the hugely successful Tango in the Night.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:12 PM
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Last several albums?
There's been exactly one Fleetwood Mac studio album with Lindsey since the hugely successful Tango in the Night.
Extended Play stank to high heaven and was all Linds all the time.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:23 PM
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Extended Play stank to high heaven and was all Linds all the time.
That's not an album....
It's an EP with only 4 songs lol that got recorded in like, one week and released with practically no promotion. It didn't even have a cover photo lol. Stevie only offered one old demo that, as she wanted, was done almost the exact same way.
The only Lindsey song I didn't like from that was Miss Fantasy, the other two were just whatever.
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:59 PM
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I guess we just keep pouring venom on the remaining members of the band and worshipping the fired saint, a former abuser of women with anger issues, who wanted to make another FM album which would have been heavily loaded with his own woefully unpopular solo songs which ruined the last several albums and made sales mediocre.
This post is just pathetic. The former abusing and the anger issues did not stop the band from continuing to work with said saint for nearly 40 years. So that argument is actually just some awkward attempt to give the current band credibility when there is none to find anywhere. Also blaming Lindsey Buckingham for the lack of album sales - when he actually was the sole creative force that made the albums happen in the first place - is pouring venom on a former band member, so the pot is calling the cattle black.
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:12 PM
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This post is just pathetic. The former abusing and the anger issues did not stop the band from continuing to work with said saint for nearly 40 years. So that argument is actually just some awkward attempt to give the current band credibility when there is none to find anywhere. Also blaming Lindsey Buckingham for the lack of album sales - when he actually was the sole creative force that made the albums happen in the first place - is pouring venom on a former band member, so the pot is calling the cattle black.
Lindsey dominated later FM albums, largely because he was unable to have a successful solo career, and it was an outlet for his obsessive compulsive creative tendencies. This gave the recordings a certain sound but it succeeded on the girl's tunes not his. His songs on Tango and The Dance and SYW were like his solo work... unattractive and self absorbed. Come, Murrow, Family Man, anyone? WTF. Now he wanted to record with FM again, likely because he knew his solo efforts would flop. And the band voted against another album with him, dreading months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune.

As for pouring venom on a band member holy ****. Look at the grotesque accusations and characterizations of Stevie and Mick elsewhere on this board. Give your head a shake, child.

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Old 05-21-2018, 08:17 PM
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Lindsey dominated later FM albums, largely because he was unable to have a successful solo career, and it was an outlet for his obsessive compulsive creative tendencies. This gave the recordings a certain sound but it succeeded on the girl's tunes not his. His songs on Tango and The Dance and SYW were like his solo work... unattractive and self absorbed. Come, Murrow, Family Man, anyone? WTF.
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Now he wanted to record with FM again, likely because he knew his solo efforts would flop. And the band voted against another album with him, dreading months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune.
The BAND released an album last year…
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Old 05-21-2018, 08:27 PM
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Lindsey dominated later FM albums, largely because he was unable to have a successful solo career, and it was an outlet for his obsessive compulsive creative tendencies. This gave the recordings a certain sound but it succeeded on the girl's tunes not his. His songs on Tango and The Dance and SYW were like his solo work... unattractive and self absorbed. Come, Murrow, Family Man, anyone? WTF. Now he wanted to record with FM again, likely because he knew his solo efforts would flop. And the band voted against another album with him, dreading months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune.

As for pouring venom on a band member holy ****. Look at the grotesque accusations and characterizations of Stevie and Mick elsewhere on this board. Give your head a shake, child.
Tango in the Night was their biggest hit since Rumours...And his songs on it (minus Family Man) are fantastic.
And clearly Mick, John and Christine didn't "dread months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune" since they DID record an album with him LOL. And Christine loved the album and she loved making it. In an interview at the end of last year she called Lindsey "her favorite guy to work with".
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:08 PM
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Lindsey dominated later FM albums, largely because he was unable to have a successful solo career, and it was an outlet for his obsessive compulsive creative tendencies. This gave the recordings a certain sound but it succeeded on the girl's tunes not his. His songs on Tango and The Dance and SYW were like his solo work... unattractive and self absorbed. Come, Murrow, Family Man, anyone? WTF. Now he wanted to record with FM again, likely because he knew his solo efforts would flop. And the band voted against another album with him, dreading months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune.

As for pouring venom on a band member holy ****. Look at the grotesque accusations and characterizations of Stevie and Mick elsewhere on this board. Give your head a shake, child.
Your post makes me LAUGH. The BAND did not vote against a new album, the tambourine B/WITCH did. Do you want me to name a few of Stevie's songs and base a whole latter career on it? We can start with , When I see you again if you'd like. Her vocals during much of the second half of the 80's and 90's were the epitome of unattractive and self absorbed. I will add cartoonish to that as well. And the ONLY reason this board as turned into this is one persons fault.
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Old 05-22-2018, 02:42 AM
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Lindsey dominated later FM albums, largely because he was unable to have a successful solo career, and it was an outlet for his obsessive compulsive creative tendencies. This gave the recordings a certain sound but it succeeded on the girl's tunes not his. His songs on Tango and The Dance and SYW were like his solo work... unattractive and self absorbed. Come, Murrow, Family Man, anyone? WTF. Now he wanted to record with FM again, likely because he knew his solo efforts would flop. And the band voted against another album with him, dreading months of his bullying lunacy with them dancing to his overwrought tune.

As for pouring venom on a band member holy ****. Look at the grotesque accusations and characterizations of Stevie and Mick elsewhere on this board. Give your head a shake, child.
LOL! Well, in memory of rational thought, could you answer the following question: Where is the good stuff that LB blocked with his own songs? On Stevies solo albums?

Everything she has published for decades now, are previously rejected, recyled leftovers from a time when she could more or less put a song together.
She has managed to write one relativly decent song in the last 15 years and that was "Illume", oddly enough it's on a FM album, made from scratch by LB.

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Old 05-23-2018, 12:29 AM
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I guess we just keep pouring venom on the remaining members of the band and worshipping the fired saint, a former abuser of women with anger issues, who wanted to make another FM album which would have been heavily loaded with his own woefully unpopular solo songs which ruined the last several albums and made sales mediocre.
Couldn't disagree more.
I don't judge work based on sales. I judge it based on creativity and songwriting strength.
Seeds We Sow is Lindsey's strongest album since Out of The Cradle. I thought it was near-perfect.
The EP was great too, thanks to Lindsey.
I also think the weakest songs on Say You Will were all Stevie's.
"Silver Girl", "Running Through Garden" (ouch), "Goodbye Baby" (ouch again).
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Old 05-21-2018, 11:53 AM
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Lindsey is out.

One interview with rolling stone.

Ticket sales are not exactly stellar.

Tour doesn't start for 5 months.

Radio Silence.


Not sure I understand their premise.

They need to up their game if they want to sell this "new band"
Well I think ticket sales actually seem to be really good. The tour was like 8 of the top 10 selling events last week or something (I don't have the link).

So they had to do the interviews to introduce the new line-up and announce the tour.

In the meantime, there's been this SiriusXM thing which I suspect has been more help than hurt in the album and ticket sales department.

I'm more perturbed by lack of concrete details from the Lindsey camp about the best of and supporting tour.

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I think it makes sense that we won't hear much from the band until late August or early September, and then we'll see a lot of interviews and peeks of the upcoming tour. To do publicity now when they're not doing rehearsals until August would be pointless. Just my opinion. Do people think the timing of the tour and silence right now is a bad idea, or that it's indicative of a problem behind the scenes? I think it's pretty smart to announce the firing of Lindsey and the replacements in quick fashion, along with the tour dates, and then a few months of silence to give folks time to process the lineup changes.

Well perhaps the inference is that, as a new band, they should get in the studio and cut an EP ahead of the tour and rehearsals. But they won't.
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There's usually quite a bit of press when there is a tour including lindsey, I just thought it was odd that it's been so low key and they have a new lineup to deal with.

Unless...and I'm not saying this to be inflammatory, they thought low key was the best way to handle it with tickets going on sale etc. Downplay the shakeup etc.
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I'm more perturbed by lack of concrete details from the Lindsey camp about the best of and supporting tour.
yes, i really need those dates!

i mean i'm happy he's all positive and telling everyone he'll tour starting in August or so - but i need those dates, man, i need to plan!
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Old 05-21-2018, 05:33 PM
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Lindsey is out.

One interview with rolling stone.

Ticket sales are not exactly stellar.

Tour doesn't start for 5 months.

Radio Silence.


Not sure I understand their premise.

They need to up their game if they want to sell this "new band"

Don't forget about the Sirius XM FM channel. Although limited run, for now, seems to be quite popular. I mean at least it is, from what I see posted on these boards. I wonder just how much this kind of station promotes FM, and more importantly the upcoming tour. ???

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Old 05-23-2018, 12:36 AM
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Lindsey is out.

One interview with rolling stone.

Ticket sales are not exactly stellar.

Tour doesn't start for 5 months.

Radio Silence.


Not sure I understand their premise.

They need to up their game if they want to sell this "new band"
I'm guessing that at age 70 +, they probably don't feel like they need a premise.
There will be a lot more press once rehearsals start. Probably a bunch of video content for the web and social media. Right now they're using Sirius XM to help present the band's history. That'll go away and will be replaced by something else during the summer and then in the Fall we'll start seeing more PR.
I won't be surprised if they record a song or two.
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