Fleetwood mac WILL record new album says stevie

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

The thing is, she's only dedicated about 6 of the past 16 years to Fleetwood Mac. 2000-2001 was spent recording and touring behind Trouble in Shangri-La. 2006 was spent touring with Tom Petty (for free!). 2008 was a solo tour. 2010-2011 was recording and touring for In Your Dreams.

By comparison, she spent 2002-2005 recording & touring behind Say You Will. 2009 was the Unleashed tour. 2013-2015 were the nonstop oldies tours.

So in reality, she's had 2007, 2012, & 2016 off. And big chunks of those other years were also spent fallow as she was doing only summer tours. Yes, for a senior woman she's kept busy. But it's not like she's sacrificed this century to Fleetwood Mac, either.

2012 was an eventful stevie year in my eyes. Probably best stevie,solo concert. I 've ever seen and I've been to 5 all on different tours. So I personally wouldn't have wanted her to spend that year any differently. And she was touring behind her very good new album. And she played 7 new songs a the highlights of the show plus probably the best edge of 17 I've ever seen. Definitely feel that was a worthwhile year. In fact I'd say stevie made great use of 2010 til 2012 ESPECIALLY since if those Rumpus were true of that proposed summer 2010 Eagles F Mac tour were what was being pushed for. (Does anyone else remember that?)

Now the biggest ever waste of a year was 2013! Why couldn't christine had come back a year earlier. There wasn't one thing about that 2013 tour that will make it even remotely significant as a fleetwood Mac tour. What I mean by that is and im strictly talking about just me, in literally every other tour you could point to something unique from at least one song that made that tour worthwhile. Even the almost equally as pointless 2009 Unleashed tour had the best Lindsey version of oh well, and Storms which I know might seem crazy to some but storms was performed well enouh to make that whole tour seem worth it. 2013s tour only selling point was the return of sisters of the moon, which was done much better one year later with the big christine is back tour.without you was never a favorite as a buckinghamnicks song so it sure as he'll sucked live to years later as the same song I always disliked but in their older voices! I huées the argument some people could say is "at least that year gave us new songs" well they were a sad excuse for new songs, especially considering how great I cosider all the songs on both stevie and Lindseys last 2 solo albums. I'm so glad christine is involved in this next project .,stevie and Lindsey alone do not bring out the best on each other any more. And I will proactively add in case some are thinking"what do you expect, stevie just lazily recorded a 40 year old song and she didn't spend enough time working on the song" well on the following year she recorded 16 old songs in about 6 weeks and for the most part I think those turned out incredible. 4 or 5 of my favorite stevie songs now.

[Hawkeye]

Wow I should of actually read and understoodyour post Louie before writing that response. You were specifically refering to stevie devoting time to Fleetwood Mac in which case much of what i said is irrelevant. Still true stuff tho just not in response to what you said.

[AliceLover]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

2012 was an eventful stevie year in my eyes. Probably best stevie,solo concert. I 've ever seen and I've been to 5 all on different tours. So I personally wouldn't have wanted her to spend that year any differently. And she was touring behind her very good new album. And she played 7 new songs a the highlights of the show plus probably the best edge of 17 I've ever seen. Definitely feel that was a worthwhile year. In fact I'd say stevie made great use of 2010 til 2012 ESPECIALLY since if those Rumpus were true of that proposed summer 2010 Eagles F Mac tour were what was being pushed for. (Does anyone else remember that?)

Now the biggest ever waste of a year was 2013! Why couldn't christine had come back a year earlier. There wasn't one thing about that 2013 tour that will make it even remotely significant as a fleetwood Mac tour. What I mean by that is and im strictly talking about just me, in literally every other tour you could point to something unique from at least one song that made that tour worthwhile. Even the almost equally as pointless 2009 Unleashed tour had the best Lindsey version of oh well, and Storms which I know might seem crazy to some but storms was performed well enouh to make that whole tour seem worth it. 2013s tour only selling point was the return of sisters of the moon, which was done much better one year later with the big christine is back tour.without you was never a favorite as a buckinghamnicks song so it sure as he'll sucked live to years later as the same song I always disliked but in their older voices! I huées the argument some people could say is "at least that year gave us new songs" well they were a sad excuse for new songs, especially considering how great I cosider all the songs on both stevie and Lindseys last 2 solo albums. I'm so glad christine is involved in this next project .,stevie and Lindsey alone do not bring out the best on each other any more. And I will proactively add in case some are thinking"what do you expect, stevie just lazily recorded a 40 year old song and she didn't spend enough time working on the song" well on the following year she recorded 16 old songs in about 6 weeks and for the most part I think those turned out incredible. 4 or 5 of my favorite stevie songs now.

Agreed. 2013 was a complete waste of time. Sisters of the Moon was exciting for about 3.5 seconds. That arrangement was a nightmare. I will say, I do like "Sad Angel" and it was cool to hear live.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Lots of us are venting our anger at the band for not rushing a new album without giving them their space and time to relax after one of their most biggest world tours ever. We keep saying the same things over and over. So here I go

The talk about new recordings before the tour were true but they were highly overblown to make it sound more like the band was doing more than just touring. There are probably some great demos between Christine and Lindsey. But the entire band has not contributed.

The band was just reuniting and talking 100% positive about all kinds of future plans.

Some believe some how there is an album out there that just needs Stevie's contribution and they are finished. FALSE

It would be a big mistake to rush into recording after such a long tour. Tensions would run high, their creativity would be marginalized, and the chances of touring afterwards would be slim.

Give the band the space they need. Fleetwood Mac does not do things on whim. Lindsey and Christine would never approve of a Fleetwood Mac album that is not up to their high standards.

I believe the longer the band takes to make the album after taking time off will vastly improve the chances of a killer album and final tour.

Fleetwood Mac has always taken time off touring and take their time with recording.

I suggest giving this thread a rest for at least 4 months. Maybe then there will be some news. Christine, Lindsey and Mick have said there WILL be a new album and last tour. NO ONE has any indication this will not happen and they are lying. Give it a rest.

The problem is that enormous tour could have been shelved until AFTER the band completed new music and/or have been cut in half so they could rest up and record music. As has been said a gazillion times on this thread, they can't act like they're 40 anymore. All of them are over 65 and one of them has suffered a recent bout of cancer. If the band is going to sell itself as entering a new profound chapter then they should stop rehashing old **** we've heard countless times, prioritize their time, give their fans a clear timeline for the new album, and stop playing these games with each other and with their fans. Give us new music. That's all, everything else is bs. Yeah, I'm bitter. I wasn't until I realized the new music we were promised has been shelved until further notice--which could be never.

[Jondalar]

Apparently, Fleetwood Mac thinks they are immortal.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Apparently, Fleetwood Mac thinks they are immortal.

Or they can just get a life sized card board replica of a member if they pass like the one of John Mcvie in the Tusk video and hope that no one notices.

[Hawkeye]

For once the thing I'm most highly anticipating finding out. For this upcoming concert at the end of the month isn't what songs they may or may not play,. No,I just hope that something gets said about the new album during some song banter. Maybe as mickk is ,leaving the stage, were. Spending the next 2 months in the studio see you soon!!! Cone on

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by JohnL

This is why I know about 25 people who refuse to come to this board anymore. And no...they are NOT all Stevie fans.

Yes, I know LB and SnL fans who don't come to the board any more as well as Stevie fans. I think it's great that they've found a place to escape.

Michele

[StevieNicksfann]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

The thing is, she's only dedicated about 6 of the past 16 years to Fleetwood Mac. 2000-2001 was spent recording and touring behind Trouble in Shangri-La. 2006 was spent touring with Tom Petty (for free!). 2008 was a solo tour. 2010-2011 was recording and touring for In Your Dreams.

By comparison, she spent 2002-2005 recording & touring behind Say You Will. 2009 was the Unleashed tour. 2013-2015 were the nonstop oldies tours.

So in reality, she's had 2007, 2012, & 2016 off. And big chunks of those other years were also spent fallow as she was doing only summer tours. Yes, for a senior woman she's kept busy. But it's not like she's sacrificed this century to Fleetwood Mac, either.

But let's reframe that with the entire picture and mention that it's not like Fleetwood Mac was slaving away in the studio those years while Stevie was doing her solo stuff. In that sense, she wasn't sacrificing this century to Fleetwood Mac because she wasn't being asked to work for them at those moments. Lindsey even specifically asked for a few years off to do his solo work so he could return to FM revitalized.

In the end, all three main songwriters have taken breaks from FM and personally, I support it if it means that they will return refreshed and recharged. And yes, it is a balancing act with their advanced ages but it doesn't change the fact that they know themselves well by now and if they forced the issue like someone said and returned to the studio immediately to churn out the album we really risk either getting a subpar album or no album at all which of course would be fodder for more bitching which may actually be what some folks truly want anyway once the denial train reaches its destination

[Macfanforever]

I dont know whats worse .We here bickering about FM and its members and their doings or about the current events in the chit chat section.At least this is more interesting then watching the crap on the tele all night.I cant wait for the Ledgie FM album reviews thread if this album ever see the light of day.I hope all of us give it good reviews and it will be sad if its a flopper after years of fussing and waiting for it.That would be upsetting.

Thanks for the company and entertainment.

OK carry on.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yes, I know LB and SnL fans who don't come to the board any more as well as Stevie fans. I think it's great that they've found a place to escape.

Michele

I think Facebook and the like took a decent portion of Ledge comments/members away from the Ledge.

I belong to a couple of FM Facebook groups...and most of the members of those, were at one time, Ledge members. Actually, most of them still are! But they just no longer come here. And I think that's for a variety of reasons.

Years ago, when the Ledge(IMO-and I mean this in a social sense) was at it's height(like 2003-05), a fairly large group of us bonded. And then there was an incident or two here that come to mind, where many were banned from the site(even if only for less than a day, as it would play out - by a power hungry mod! lol), BUT someone went off and started a private forum, and we formed our own private groups. Several groups actually, most of which eventually imploded, as far as I know. But most never returned here afterwards.

But I have about 10 FM friends(in real life) that I met here on the Ledge, and we stay in contact, and visit each other a few times a year for FM parties. I love the Ledge!

[On Ice]

I've watched this thread unfold but so far haven't commented but wanted to point out what is happening with older artists new music out there, and it's not good. First with the exception of satellite radio, none of this wonderful new music is getting played, and while this is not new, it's getting worse now. Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, a 2010 Peter Frampton album even David Bowie's last album great stuff, none of it made it even close to mainstream radio. Concerts are a whole other deal and I saw this first hand on Wednesday at an amazing Don Henley concert here in BC. A couple of "die-hards" starting yelling out for Hotel California before he even got started and practically booed him when he said he planned on playing music from his (wonderfully performed) new album. He handled it with humour and grace, but I was sure embarrassed by those idiot comments and if all they want to hear is one or two of the great old tracks, then why waste their time going to a show. So really why would Fleetwood Mac compromise their "cash cow oldies tours" by daring to be creative with new music when they will most likely hear stupid fans poo pooing their new stuff as the classy and uber talented Mr Henley had to endure and will likely endure during the rest of his tour? I really would like to see a new album but can hardly fault them for shelving it if this is the way the public and radio treats new music from older artists.

[Macfanforever]

Originally Posted by On Ice

I've watched this thread unfold but so far haven't commented but wanted to point out what is happening with older artists new music out there, and it's not good. First with the exception of satellite radio, none of this wonderful new music is getting played, and while this is not new, it's getting worse now. Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, a 2010 Peter Frampton album even David Bowie's last album great stuff, none of it made it even close to mainstream radio. Concerts are a whole other deal and I saw this first hand on Wednesday at an amazing Don Henley concert here in BC. A couple of "die-hards" starting yelling out for Hotel California before he even got started and practically booed him when he said he planned on playing music from his (wonderfully performed) new album. He handled it with humour and grace, but I was sure embarrassed by those idiot comments and if all they want to hear is one or two of the great old tracks, then why waste their time going to a show. So really why would Fleetwood Mac compromise their "cash cow oldies tours" by daring to be creative with new music when they will most likely hear stupid fans poo pooing their new stuff as the classy and uber talented Mr Henley had to endure and will likely endure during the rest of his tour? I really would like to see a new album but can hardly fault them for shelving it if this is the way the public and radio treats new music from older artists.

I agree 100 percent.You got a big point there.I've been saying that on here for ages.Radio dont care about any older artists and bands.If I was an artist .I would just tour and hell with the new crap because radio sucks and discriminates plus it dont care about the establish artists and bands.Luckily we got to get SYW played the sheet out of when it was released.I did not even hear a peep out the radio with Stevie's last two outings and they got ignored .I do agree that Sat radio and some college stations play the new stuff on the radio and some online station do too.
The only way to get older artist in the mainstream is they got to work with some young artists like when Lady Gaga with Tony Bennett.Stevie had a chance with Lady A and Charles but it was ignored by country radio PD's and jocks.Plus corrupt corporate radio sucks and does not help the situation.

[elle]

Originally Posted by On Ice

I've watched this thread unfold but so far haven't commented but wanted to point out what is happening with older artists new music out there, and it's not good. First with the exception of satellite radio, none of this wonderful new music is getting played, and while this is not new, it's getting worse now. Elton John, Bruce Springsteen, a 2010 Peter Frampton album even David Bowie's last album great stuff, none of it made it even close to mainstream radio. Concerts are a whole other deal and I saw this first hand on Wednesday at an amazing Don Henley concert here in BC. A couple of "die-hards" starting yelling out for Hotel California before he even got started and practically booed him when he said he planned on playing music from his (wonderfully performed) new album. He handled it with humour and grace, but I was sure embarrassed by those idiot comments and if all they want to hear is one or two of the great old tracks, then why waste their time going to a show. So really why would Fleetwood Mac compromise their "cash cow oldies tours" by daring to be creative with new music when they will most likely hear stupid fans poo pooing their new stuff as the classy and uber talented Mr Henley had to endure and will likely endure during the rest of his tour? I really would like to see a new album but can hardly fault them for shelving it if this is the way the public and radio treats new music from older artists.

all great points, and exactly what's been happening.

which is why i'm so surprised when some fans keep bringing up how bad it will be *if* new FM album is commercial flop. we know it will be, from everything that you also so nicely listed! and i know that at least some band members know that too.

why would they compose and release new music?? for the same reason Bowie, and Springsteen, and Henley and others you listed do! because they are artists and that's their way of expressing themselves.

not for the money for sure, that's what their tours are for. they are among the lucky ones - legendary band that can sell arenas and make tons of money, instead of playing fairs like some less lucky ones do these days.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

all great points, and exactly what's been happening.

which is why i'm so surprised when some fans keep bringing up how bad it will be *if* new FM album is commercial flop. we know it will be, from everything that you also so nicely listed! and i know that at least some band members know that too.

And it's not as if we're foolish enough to think they would play many songs from the new album in concert. Mick has told us many times that they learned that lesson 40 years ago. We wouldn't expect more than 3 new songs from them. After that they can continue with their oldies act and the casual fans will only be slightly inconvenienced by having to endure 4 minutes of something other than Dreams or GYOW.

But we will have new music to play for ourselves at home. We will have proof that our favorite artists continued to grow creatively in their sixties and seventies and evidence that their vaunted chemistry continued (or didn't) well past Rumours.

We keep looking for the legacy to keep building, not to keep attending the Rumours memorial service.

Michele