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Old 01-12-2014, 11:06 PM
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Is it me, or are the people who aren't happy that Christine's coming back seem to mostly be the people who never saw her with the band?
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It's amazing that the idea of those two releasing the Buckingham Nicks album is still generating such noise. They missed the boat BIG TIME and it really has nothing to do with Christine coming back. When she departed in 1998, that is exactly when they should have re-released the album and toured behind it. The crazy amount of buzz surrounding FMac, Lindsey, and Stevie at that time will never be replicated again.
No kidding. And, when Dave Grohl introduced a whole new generation of fans to the BN album and Twitter was blowing up with them discovering it ... yeah, that would have been a good time...

The reason BN fans feel Christine coming back is important to BN is because Lindsey alluded to a BN focus after this FM tour. He said they didn't have time to put anything together during the break from the US leg to the UK leg. So, he talked about their options after the tour was over.
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No kidding. And, when Dave Grohl introduced a whole new generation of fans to the BN album and Twitter was blowing up with them discovering it ... yeah, that would have been a good time...

The reason BN fans feel Christine coming back is important to BN is because Lindsey alluded to a BN focus after this FM tour. He said they didn't have time to put anything together during the break from the US leg to the UK leg. So, he talked about their options after the tour was over.
And, the tour ended early. No excuse, and definitely nothing to do with Christine McVie.
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Money has nothing to do with the aesthetic.
So you are saying that the 100's of thousands of fans that have bought tickets for FM's last couple of tours have NO taste in music...
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Plus, Christine doesn't leave the studio to let LB do all the work. She hangs in there with the guys.
When did Stevie leave? I thought she sat around on the couch all day looking at books and drawing waiting on LB to get a track ready for her to lay down vocals.

I would hope Lindsey's gotten a little more up to speed with ProTools.
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So you are saying that the 100's of thousands of fans that have bought tickets for FM's last couple of tours have NO taste in music...
No, you are saying that. I'm saying that in my opinion FM fronted by B/N is stale and that money or not I stand by my opinion. For example, if I don't like a Lady Gaga tune that sold millions it won't affect if I like it anymore or less.
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When did Stevie leave? I thought she sat around on the couch all day looking at books and drawing waiting on LB to get a track ready for her to lay down vocals.
Not since "Tusk."

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Doubtful. Not that that's a bad thing.
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When did Stevie leave? I thought she sat around on the couch all day looking at books and drawing waiting on LB to get a track ready for her to lay down vocals.

I would hope Lindsey's gotten a little more up to speed with ProTools.
I was referring to the last FM album done by LB and CM. Tango in the Night.

Does LB use ProTools?
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Old 01-12-2014, 11:15 PM
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Oh, what the hell? Get the pitchforks cos I'm another person who is not thrilled. AT ALL. No shame in admitting it either, to be honest.

I only discovered FM this year, have never seen them live (thanks, cancelled tour...), and the entire reason for loving them - for me - is basically Stevie and Lindsey. I am disappointed I won't get to see a SnL led Fleetwood Mac tour. I am disappointed at what the setlist will probably be (yes, I am seriously upset I won't get to see, most likely, WY or SG, etc). I am disappointed that the onstage dynamic will probably be different now. I am disappointed that both fans and the media are and will be acting like FM have been treading water for the past 15 years just waiting for Chris' return. I LOVE SYW. I LOVE the EP. I do enjoy the mix of vocals with the three of them but, quite honestly, the only plus side of this for me is that we'll probably get a new album and I'll have some new SnL songs to listen to...

Look, I don't begrudge anyone's joy and delight over Chris' return but it's not the only legitimate viewpoint and it doesn't make me less of a fan or a person. I won't skip her songs on an album and I won't take a bathroom break during them at a gig but I'm NOT thrilled about this and I'm NOT thrilled with the way people are acting towards those who aren't over the moon about this news. I enjoy the music and live videos for SnL's voices, for their chemistry, for their dialogue in song, etc. I see it still - I see more energy this year, more of a connection, and more happiness there. I don't feel anything is missing or stale and yes, that's probably something lacking in me but I don't connect emotionally with Christine's stuff on the same level as I do with SnL and I'm not sorry about it.

Sorry if this offends anyone but it's the simple truth. For me.

(also, I'm annoyed that this is going to probably push back Buckingham Nicks plans further)
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Does LB use ProTools?
I'm sure he does. You could see the Mac set up in DR and it's in his studio too.
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Is it me, or are the people who aren't happy that Christine's coming back seem to mostly be the people who never saw her with the band?
That could be it exactly...How many people at FM's shows were old enough to have bought TITN when it came out??? They probably have no concept of what the band was back in 1987...
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I'm sure he does. You could see the Mac set up in DR and it's in his studio too.
I have to watch that again. It's been so long since I've watched it.
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I think he sings better, plays better and is more creative when he's solo. With Nicks it seems so forced.

But with Christine he has another musician writer that he appreciates and I think he's happy to work with her. I venture to guess that's why they have so many collaborations as writers. Plus, Christine doesn't leave the studio to let LB do all the work. She hangs in there with the guys.
I agree, and always found it ridiculous, people who insisted on blaming Lindsey for Christine leaving and/or not coming back. I was happy (though not surprised) when she said in those recent interviews about how he had tried to convince her to stay. So, since it's already a done deal, apparently, and she is coming back to tour, I'm going to enjoy it, and just hope that it doesn't go too long, and also that he does some serious writing in his off hours for a solo project.
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That could be it exactly...How many people at FM's shows were old enough to have bought TITN when it came out??? They probably have no concept of what the band was back in 1987...
I was alive when TITN came out and could have bought it (with parental help) but have never seen FM live with Christine. I don't think age has anything to do with it though, I think it depends on what you like best about FM. For me it's Lindsey, so Christine coming back is not something I'm excited about. I'd much rather have Lindsey back to solo.
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That could be it exactly...How many people at FM's shows were old enough to have bought TITN when it came out??? They probably have no concept of what the band was back in 1987...
But does that make their (my) view and perspective any less legitimate? Does it make them any less of a fan? Certainly, I wasn't even born until 1990 so, NO, I didn't see them live with Christine. And I haven't seen them live with just Stevie and Lindsey upfront. That means I'm relying on lots of audio recordings from live shows, any video that exists from live shows, and from reviews. And I watch and listen to it. All. From 1975 until the Vegas gig. You can have a 'concept' of what it was like without living through it, although it's certainly not the same, unfortunately. No two fans are going to have an identical perspective on everything, anyway.

Just because I wasn't around then or because I haven't seen Chris with them doesn't mean I'm wrong or deluded for enjoying the band as a quartet and not missing Christine's presence. She's just not the draw for me in any way, to be honest - not back then, not now.
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