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shackin'up · #46 04-10-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ali

As much as everyone complains about Stand Back, it's been better in the two nights I've seen it this tour than in years of previous performances. Lindsey was mouthing the words the whole time last night and was really into playing it (which he didn't appear to be in oh, 97, 03 or 09).

I remember him doing that in 09 too.

PenguinHead · #47 04-10-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mitzo

SB is a cacophonous off-key bellowed mess live and should be retired for good.

I wanted Stand Back to disappear from Fleetwood Mac after the Billy/Rick period of the band. When Lindsey rejoined I thought it might be interesting to see how he would approach it But now it's just a waste of space, when so many other songs could take its place.

It's semi-disco dance style is incongruous to Fleetwood Mac's general vibe.It's such a dominant, signature song in the context of her solo career. And this is what she chose to become a staple in a Fleetwood Mac show? She apparently never considered the myriad of inspired choices among her many rarely/never performed Fleetwood Mac songs. It kind of seems like a power-play on her part -- to stake her claim!

MacShadowsBall · #48 04-10-2013, 11:20 AM

One thing I do find interesting is that Lindsey dropped his solo song yet Stevie's solo song stays.

HejiraNYC · #49 04-10-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead

Now it's just a waste of space, when so many other songs could take its place. It's semi-disco dance style is incongruous to Fleetwood Mac's general vibe.It's such a dominant, signature song in the context of her solo career. And this is what she chose to become a staple in a Fleetwood Mac show?

She apparently never considered the myriad of inspired choices among her many rarely/never performed Fleetwood Mac songs. It kind of seems like a power-play on her part.

Remember, a show is a complete body of work rather than just a bunch of randomly cobbled songs. There is a flow/ebb to a Fleetwood Mac setlist: It starts off with a bang, settles into a familiar mid-tempo groove, enters into experimental/unusual territory, goes unplugged, gets moody/bluesy, then winds up with an onslaught of uptempo/rocking tunes. Stevie really doesn't have much in the way of uptempo/rocking songs, so I think "Stand Back" is her go-to "get the a$$es out of their seats" number. If you think about it, what other Stevie song would fit into this slot in the show? Other than "Edge of Seventeen" I can't think of anything else.

KarmaContestant · #50 04-10-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC

Remember, a show is a complete body of work rather than just a bunch of randomly cobbled songs. There is a flow/ebb to a Fleetwood Mac setlist: It starts off with a bang, settles into a familiar mid-tempo groove, enters into experimental/unusual territory, goes unplugged, gets moody/bluesy, then winds up with an onslaught of uptempo/rocking tunes. Stevie really doesn't have much in the way of uptempo/rocking songs, so I think "Stand Back" is her go-to "get the a$$es out of their seats" number. If you think about it, what other Stevie song would fit into this slot in the show? Other than "Edge of Seventeen" I can't think of anything else.

Running Through The Garden, No Questions Asked, Freedom, Love Is Dangerous, Seven Wonders, Say You Will - even Paper Doll would serve the same purpose, though maybe not as effectively since they aren't as well known. Stand Back certainly does get one's ass out of the seat!

michelej1 · #51 04-10-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali

As much as everyone complains about Stand Back, it's been better in the two nights I've seen it this tour than in years of previous performances. Lindsey was mouthing the words the whole time last night and was really into playing it (which he didn't appear to be in oh, 97, 03 or 09).

He can be seen on Live in Boston reacting enthusiastically to the song.

Michele

dontlookdown · #52 04-10-2013, 09:45 PM

hate stand back.
i always find it embarrassing during FM shows. sort of like - this band is above this song.
just doesn't fit.

i also have NEVER liked Don't Stop. Not in 1977, and not now.
I think it's weird without Christine and honestly boring.

I'd love to hear I Don't Want To Know as the show opener or an encore.

ShangriLaTroubl · #53 04-10-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Running Through The Garden, No Questions Asked, Freedom, Love Is Dangerous, Seven Wonders, Say You Will - even Paper Doll would serve the same purpose, though maybe not as effectively since they aren't as well known. Stand Back certainly does get one's ass out of the seat!

Actually, IMO none of those you listed are anywhere near Stand Back. Now, I'm not saying SB is some genius/deep song. However, the synthesizers and the beat make the song a dance favorite for Stevie/Mac fans. It's not really a hard rocking song, or a soft pop song. I always think of Stand Back as Stevie's one "dance song."

jmn3 · #54 04-10-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

Running Through The Garden, No Questions Asked, Freedom, Love Is Dangerous, Seven Wonders, Say You Will - even Paper Doll would serve the same purpose, though maybe not as effectively since they aren't as well known. Stand Back certainly does get one's ass out of the seat!

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. If you plopped any of those songs into Stand Back's spot on the setlist, it would pull the energy out of the concert when it should be working up to it's big finale. Basically, what everyone else says...Stevie doesn't have many high-energy, well known songs that work well in that "home stretch" part of the setlist when the band wants asses off seats, singing, dancing, and clapping.

Although, if they were worked correctly, I could see Silver Springs or Rhiannon as the lead in to the Go Your Own Way finale.

vivfox · #55 04-10-2013, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

01 The Chain
02 Dreams
03 Sad Angel
04 Seven Wonders
05 Can't Go Back
06 Rhiannon
07 Tango In The Night
08 Thrown Down
09 What Makes You Think You're The One
10 Sara
11 Big Love
12 Landslide
13 Frozen Love
14 Gypsy
15 Eyes Of The World
16 That's Alright
17 World Turning
18 I'm So Afraid
19 Silver Springs
20 Tusk
21 Go Your Own Way
22 Sisters Of The Moon
23 Don't Stop
24 Say Goodbye

1 Buckingham Nicks track.
4 White Album tracks.
5 Rumours tracks.
4 Tusk tracks.
4 Mirage tracks.
3 Tango In The Night tracks.
2 Say You Will tracks.
1 New track.

I have gone through your list four times and all I see is one SYW track.

KenshiMaster16 · #56 04-10-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I have gone through your list four times and all I see is one SYW track.

8 Thrown Down & 24 Say Goodbye.

vivfox · #57 04-11-2013, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

8 Thrown Down & 24 Say Goodbye.

I didn't see that and I was wearing my glasses.Sorry.

KarmaContestant · #58 04-11-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox

I didn't see that and I was wearing my glasses.Sorry.

KarmaContestant · #59 04-11-2013, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

Actually, IMO none of those you listed are anywhere near Stand Back. Now, I'm not saying SB is some genius/deep song. However, the synthesizers and the beat make the song a dance favorite for Stevie/Mac fans. It's not really a hard rocking song, or a soft pop song. I always think of Stand Back as Stevie's one "dance song."

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Originally Posted by jmn3

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. If you plopped any of those songs into Stand Back's spot on the setlist, it would pull the energy out of the concert when it should be working up to it's big finale. Basically, what everyone else says...Stevie doesn't have many high-energy, well known songs that work well in that "home stretch" part of the setlist when the band wants asses off seats, singing, dancing, and clapping.

I disagree with you both, and think you're drinking the Stand Back koolaid. They don't need that song to bring energy to their shows. It's just a caveat to keep Stevie there. Any of the songs I listed could bring a ton of energy - I mean, my goodness, look at I'm So Afraid and Gold Dust Woman, probably some of the most spectacular moments of the show, and no synthy beats.

I agree that it's dancy, but any song could be dancy if reimagined and performed that way. For that matter, they might as well perform the Deep Dish version of Dreams.

I love Stand Back, and don't mind hearing it. I'm just playing devil's advocate, which comes naturally to me, due to my Libra Moon.

MikeVielhaber · #60 04-11-2013, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

I disagree with you both, and think you're drinking the Stand Back koolaid. They don't need that song to bring energy to their shows. It's just a caveat to keep Stevie there. Any of the songs I listed could bring a ton of energy - I mean, my goodness, look at I'm So Afraid and Gold Dust Woman, probably some of the most spectacular moments of the show, and no synthy beats.

I agree that it's dancy, but any song could be dancy if reimagined and performed that way. For that matter, they might as well perform the Deep Dish version of Dreams.

I love Stand Back, and don't mind hearing it. I'm just playing devil's advocate, which comes naturally to me, due to my Libra Moon.

I think you're vastly underestimating the importance of song recognition. Those other songs wouldn't work because most of the fans don't know them. There maybe be other songs they could use in that slot, I don't know, but those aren't it.