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Old 12-03-2014, 09:08 PM
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I think it's about time we faced up to the reality that the chances of a new Fleetwood Mac album are slim to none. Many fans will remember Lindsey Buckingham talking about putting out a new Fleetwood Mac album after the 2009 tour. Obviously that never eventuated.

I don't know if any other Ledgies realise this, but Fleetwood Mac is very unlikely to make much money from the sales of a new album. I think realistically the best they can hope for is Gold sales status. Look at Say You Will, it's taken eleven years for it to reach Platinum sales status (or close to it).

From the band's point of view, they can make much more money from touring.

If they were serious about wanting to release a new album, then why not include two new songs in the current tour set list?

I don't know about anyone else but it drives me crazy hearing from the media that there are new Fleetwood Mac songs and knowing that I'm unlikely to ever hear them.

Why haven't they included Too Far Gone or How I Feel or Carnival Begin or Red Sun in the set?

I don't think the band would release an album without Stevie songs on it and as she appears to have no interest in working in the studio with the band:

The best we can hope for is a new solo Lindsey album and a new solo Christine album.

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Old 12-03-2014, 09:16 PM
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I think it's about time we faced up to the reality that the chances of a new Fleetwood Mac album are slim to none. Many fans will remember Lindsey Buckingham talking about putting out a new Fleetwood Mac album after the 2009 tour. Obviously that never eventuated.

I don't know if any other Ledgies realise this, but Fleetwood Mac is very unlikely to make much money from the sales of a new album. I think realistically the best they can hope for is Gold sales status. Look at Say You Will, it's taken eleven years for it to reach Platinum sales status (or close to it).

From the band's point of view, they can make much more money from touring.

If they were serious about wanting to release a new album, then why not include two new songs in the current tour set list?

I don't know about anyone else but it drives me crazy hearing from the media that there are new Fleetwood Mac songs and knowing that I'm unlikely to ever hear them.

Why haven't they included Too Far Gone or How I Feel or Carnival Begin or Red Sun in the set?

I don't think the band would release an album without Stevie songs on it and as she appears to have no interest in working in the studio with the band:

The best we can hope for is a new solo Lindsey album and a new solo Christine album.
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Let's not try scaring people with the name of our threads! Your thread title is like "Christine is dying" and then you write something like "Lets face it, they are all going to die one day

Anyway, Lindsey just said in some interview that stevie will come in and lindsey has been writing recently! They're not in the setlist because they are not done yet (have you heard the early live version of GYOW? eeek!) they aren't done yet and people don't one unfinished music.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:27 PM
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I understand and appreciate you expressing your feelings, but it doesn't seem right to post your opinion as fact. "Will there ever be a new album?" would have be more appropriate.

The best we have to hope for is the patience to wait. In the world of Fleetwood Mac, nothing happens quickly, so our expectations are just planned disappointments.The speculation ofwhat they will do/should do scenarios can (and will) go on endlessly until the tour finally ends.

I'm happy for the legions of fans who are getting to see the group back together with Christine. But when the tour is over, all that we will have left are memories (and probably a pricey commemorative DVD/CD of one of the shows). Lindsey calls this a "profound" chapter in the band--but I call it a snap judgment and shameless move motivated by money.

As artists, I would assumed their desire to create and record a new album would overrule embarking on a huge tour, less than a year from their last tour of redundancy. This would have allowed Stevie time/space to promote her album, letting her feel less constrained by group demands, and making her more amenable to working on a new Fleetwood Mac album, which could be released and toured in the spring of next year. As I've said before, a show is just a fleeting moment in time, but an album is timeless. Which one would you prefer?
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:09 PM
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I respectfully disagree. I think there will be one more Fleetwood Mac studio album with the Rumours 5. Though it may not happen until 2016, I think this project will see the light of day.

I think 24 Karat Gold is the LAST SOLO ALBUM that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise Records. I think the release of that album has fulfilled her contract with them. As far as record labels go, she may be a free agent soon. I just read the other day she said that this record was made simply to fulfill an "obligation" to her record company. Whether or not she will want to head into the studio with Mac next year is anyone's guess. This woman changes her mind like the weather. BUT, I think she'll give in late next year and decide to contribute three new songs to a MAC record.
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Old 12-03-2014, 11:25 PM
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I respectfully disagree. I think there will be one more Fleetwood Mac studio album with the Rumours 5. Though it may not happen until 2016, I think this project will see the light of day.

I think 24 Karat Gold is the LAST SOLO ALBUM that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise Records. I think the release of that album has fulfilled her contract with them. As far as record labels go, she may be a free agent soon. I just read the other day she said that this record was made simply to fulfill an "obligation" to her record company. Whether or not she will want to head into the studio with Mac next year is anyone's guess. This woman changes her mind like the weather. BUT, I think she'll give in late next year and decide to contribute three new songs to a MAC record.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:06 PM
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I understand and appreciate you expressing your feelings, but it doesn't seem right to post your opinion as fact. "Will there ever be a new album?" would have be more appropriate.

As I've said before, a show is just a fleeting moment in time, but an album is timeless.

Exactly. I hate when people post their negative random thoughts. You don't know sh*t, so don't act like you do.

I also agree with this last part. I would rather have another album or 2 and less concerts/tours.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:17 PM
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Exactly. I hate when people post their negative random thoughts. You don't know sh*t, so don't act like you do.
on the other hand, a "positive thought police" is just as annoying, if not more. self-righteousness is not necessarily very attractive.

people posting "negative" thoughts may be just venting their frustrations... for all we know it may be therapeutic for them.

we don't know whether this person knows something or not, so i'm not sure why we would be compelled to say they don't know sh*t.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:27 PM
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on the other hand, a "positive thought police" is just as annoying, if not more. self-righteousness is not necessarily very attractive.

people posting "negative" thoughts may be just venting their frustrations... for all we know it may be therapeutic for them.

we don't know whether this person knows something or not, so i'm not sure why we would be compelled to say they don't know sh*t.
"Positive thought police"? Really? I'm hoping for/expecting a new studio album from them by late 2015. If I said the new album would sell more than Taylor Swift, then I could understand what you wrote. I'm certainly being realistic.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:08 PM
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on the other hand, a "positive thought police" is just as annoying, if not more. self-righteousness is not necessarily very attractive.

people posting "negative" thoughts may be just venting their frustrations... for all we know it may be therapeutic for them.

we don't know whether this person knows something or not, so i'm not sure why we would be compelled to say they don't know sh*t.
Because they don't, and Penguin Head was spot on to call out the person for posting speculated opinion as fact.
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:46 PM
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I understand and appreciate you expressing your feelings, but it doesn't seem right to post your opinion as fact. "Will there ever be a new album?" would have be more appropriate.

The best we have to hope for is the patience to wait. In the world of Fleetwood Mac, nothing happens quickly, so our expectations are just planned disappointments.The speculation ofwhat they will do/should do scenarios can (and will) go on endlessly until the tour finally ends.

I'm happy for the legions of fans who are getting to see the group back together with Christine. But when the tour is over, all that we will have left are memories (and probably a pricey commemorative DVD/CD of one of the shows). Lindsey calls this a "profound" chapter in the band--but I call it a snap judgment and shameless move motivated by money.

As artists, I would assumed their desire to create and record a new album would overrule embarking on a huge tour, less than a year from their last tour of redundancy. This would have allowed Stevie time/space to promote her album, letting her feel less constrained by group demands, and making her more amenable to working on a new Fleetwood Mac album, which could be released and toured in the spring of next year. As I've said before, a show is just a fleeting moment in time, but an album is timeless. Which one would you prefer?
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Old 12-04-2014, 09:57 PM
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Sorry about the click-bait thread title. I'd change it but I don't know how.
you can ask mods to change it for you.

i don't have a problem with your title and i'm one of the people here who's pushing for that album the most; of course it never occurred to me even for a sec that you were stating the fact (although it may eventually turn out to be one).

if one is so worried, as soon as they click on the title they'll find out very fast what it is about. not a rocket science.
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Old 12-04-2014, 10:07 PM
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you can ask mods to change it for you.

i don't have a problem with your title and i'm one of the people here who's pushing for that album the most; of course it never occurred to me even for a sec that you were stating the fact (although it may eventually turn out to be one).

if one is so worried, as soon as they click on the title they'll find out very fast what it is about. not a rocket science.
Very true. I'm a bit confused as to why people would think the thread title is a fact. It's not a quote from an article.

To me, as much as I would like a new album from the band, the cynic in me says it's not going to happen any time soon and it may not happen at all. If it's true that the band will be touring Australia and New Zealand in November 2015, any new album from the band would need to have its release date pushed back to 2016. I think by 2016 it will get to the stage where one or more of the band members is of the opinion, "why bother?"

Then we would probably get a new solo album from Lindsey and nothing else.

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Old 12-04-2014, 03:08 AM
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Anyway, Lindsey just said in some interview that stevie will come in and lindsey has been writing recently! They're not in the setlist because they are not done yet (have you heard the early live version of GYOW? eeek!) they aren't done yet and people don't one unfinished music.
Which interview was this?
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