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Old 03-02-2009, 02:57 AM
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Default Stevie was awful tonight *spoilers*

Seriously, it's time for her to retire. She put in absolutely no effort on any of the songs except for maybe "storms". Her eyes were half shut for most of the night and she put zero energy into any part of her performances. I was almost embarrassed for her. Her twirls during "stand back" were geriatric and as mentioned by someone else, had absolutely no chemistry with lindsey tonight. The guys in the band were great however and I don't want to take anything away from them. Stevie's performance tonight made her syw tour performances look like the mirage tour. Yes, she was that bad. What a disappointment. As someone that I bumped into at my hotel mentioned about it, she simply has no more energy or enthusiasm left for this. She really should stop performing after this tour.
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Old 03-02-2009, 03:12 AM
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Seriously, it's time for her to retire. She put in absolutely no effort on any of the songs except for maybe "storms". Her eyes were half shut for most of the night and she put zero energy into any part of her performances. I was almost embarrassed for her. Her twirls during "stand back" were geriatric and as mentioned by someone else, had absolutely no chemistry with lindsey tonight. The guys in the band were great however and I don't want to take anything away from them. Stevie's performance tonight made her syw tour performances look like the mirage tour. Yes, she was that bad. What a disappointment. As someone that I bumped into at my hotel mentioned about it, she simply has no more energy or enthusiasm left for this. She really should stop performing after this tour.
Shes sixty....

She always SUCKS the first night of a tour, especially with Fleetwood Mac. Shes nervous, shes not used to the set, blah blah blah. I mean, its a pattern. Once she does more dates she will get into it. Plus, whatever happened to your set list....Angel? Blue Letter? Say you will? You were full of sh*t.
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Old 03-02-2009, 07:58 AM
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Shes sixty....
Ok, so playing Devil's Advocate here... but since they force airline pilots retire at 60, I think they sure as HELL should make rock star sex symbols throw in their tambourines at 60! Truly though, I really think Stevie should give it up. She was miserable and disconnected for the last tour, and appears she's going to be the same way again. Why keep at it??
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:07 AM
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Oh, please.
Hang it up at 60? Age-ist nonsence.
Remember what you're saying when someone tells YOU to hang it up when you're 60, because I gotta say, having passed 40 myself (and then some), I feel no different than I did when I was 20 or 30 and I don't think that changes when you're 60. Probably a few more aches and pains but no one is ready for The Home yet.
And I just saw Stevie this summer. So, she didn't change that much in 8 months. FM-jitters? Maybe. Or maybe people just looking to hang the woman out to dry. John looks bored at every performance. You're telling him to hang it up, too?
And, if you find her tired or boring or unable to perform, stay home. Simple as that. Stop "feeding the machine," to use Lindsey's term.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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Oh, please.
Hang it up at 60? Age-ist nonsence.
Remember what you're saying when someone tells YOU to hang it up when you're 60, because I gotta say, having passed 40 myself (and then some), I feel no different than I did when I was 20 or 30 and I don't think that changes when you're 60. Probably a few more aches and pains but no one is ready for The Home yet.
And I just saw Stevie this summer. So, she didn't change that much in 8 months. FM-jitters? Maybe. Or maybe people just looking to hang the woman out to dry. John looks bored at every performance. You're telling him to hang it up, too?
And, if you find her tired or boring or unable to perform, stay home. Simple as that. Stop "feeding the machine," to use Lindsey's term.
I'm not ageist at all, and I'm gay... so her sexiness appeal has ALWAYS been a non-issue to me . But shouldn't ANYONE who no longer performs up to par consider retirement, or a change of careers? I'm talking about everyone from stock traders to janitors folks. ALL you people need to stop throwing names at each other and totally ripping someone apart because they don't worship the ground FM walks on. They're just humans, like you, I, and everyone else here are humans. They eat, breathe, fart, sh!t, etc just like the rest of us . And for what it's worth, I don't have tix for this tour, and don't know if I can justify the price now more than ever, after hearing these clips being posted online. I want to remember the band at it's best... not this.

Let's all keep in mind this is a DISCUSSION BOARD too... differing opinions keep it interesting. We all can't worship absolutely everything these people do. We're all going to have things we don't like. And for what it's worth, I do agree Stevie has sounded good on her recent solo tours (better than she has since perhaps the mid 80s). Her heart just doesn't seem to be with the Mac since Christine has left, which impacts everything from her energy level, to her voice. And THAT'S why I feel she should pack it up, and close that door.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:59 AM
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Old 03-02-2009, 09:47 AM
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I'm not ageist at all, and I'm gay... so her sexiness appeal has ALWAYS been a non-issue to me . But shouldn't ANYONE who no longer performs up to par consider retirement, or a change of careers? I'm talking about everyone from stock traders to janitors folks. ALL you people need to stop throwing names at each other and totally ripping someone apart because they don't worship the ground FM walks on. They're just humans, like you, I, and everyone else here are humans. They eat, breathe, fart, sh!t, etc just like the rest of us . And for what it's worth, I don't have tix for this tour, and don't know if I can justify the price now more than ever, after hearing these clips being posted online. I want to remember the band at it's best... not this.

Let's all keep in mind this is a DISCUSSION BOARD too... differing opinions keep it interesting. We all can't worship absolutely everything these people do. We're all going to have things we don't like. And for what it's worth, I do agree Stevie has sounded good on her recent solo tours (better than she has since perhaps the mid 80s). Her heart just doesn't seem to be with the Mac since Christine has left, which impacts everything from her energy level, to her voice. And THAT'S why I feel she should pack it up, and close that door.

Yes, but you are basing this on what? You tube videos?
And you really think my post was ripping you apart? Where?

You can disagree. That's fine. But there is ageism in this society, and switching careers at 60 rarely happens. The spirit, flesh, and whatever may be willing but the employers-to-be are not. But, that's the real world. In la-la land, Stevie has three options: 1-hang in there and continue to provide a lot of pleasure to a lot of people who can forgive a couple of clunky notes or slightly less spring in her step, 2-hang it up and invest in a really good rocking chair or 3-sell a line of schlock jewelry from the Former Queen of Rock on QVC.

During SYW, people were saying that her performances were lacking throughout the tour. I went to a good 10 concerts (if not more--never counted) and loved each and every one. So, it's all subjective. Those who still think she has something to give, go to concerts and enjoy. When they stop enjoying, they stop going. And, if that happens, she'll get the message.

For me, it's not happening and I'm still going. I may not be happy about setlists but I still am very happy with Stevie (and with all of FM--even [gulp] Mick, in spite of his weasle-ish ways). Not blind adoration but an acknowledgement that not everything is perfect but what is presented is pretty damned good.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:03 AM
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Not gonna join the debate fray, because there's just no winning that.

But I do have something to add, and we'll have to see how this pans out at upcoming shows.

My b/f says he thought Stevie looked hurt. Like pained and favoring one leg. Maybe she slipped backstage in her high heels or something. Mick was definitely helping her off stage.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:15 AM
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Not gonna join the debate fray, because there's just no winning that.

But I do have something to add, and we'll have to see how this pans out at upcoming shows.

My b/f says he thought Stevie looked hurt. Like pained and favoring one leg. Maybe she slipped backstage in her high heels or something. Mick was definitely helping her off stage.
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:19 PM
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My b/f says he thought Stevie looked hurt. Like pained and favoring one leg.
Oy. Don't tell me Lindsey has been kicking her again.
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:21 PM
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Oy. Don't tell me Lindsey has been kicking her again.
Kicking? He's kicked her? I thought he just slapped her around a bit. I am shocked by this allegation.
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Old 03-02-2009, 06:37 PM
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Oy. Don't tell me Lindsey has been kicking her again.
I would pay for good seats to see that kind of energy from any of them again.....
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Ok, so playing Devil's Advocate here... but since they force airline pilots retire at 60, I think they sure as HELL should make rock star sex symbols throw in their tambourines at 60! Truly though, I really think Stevie should give it up. She was miserable and disconnected for the last tour, and appears she's going to be the same way again. Why keep at it??
To some extent, I agree.
However - dispite the crap setlist, did you SEE her on the last few solo tours? She was having a BLAST! Looking great, sounding great and having a damn good time with some kick arse "Stand Back" twirls. And Soundstage was fanstastic as well. It's only with The Mac she seems to just be going through the motions. But the opening nights of Mac tours always have been dodgey for Stevie.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:51 PM
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Stevie still rocks, but not with FM anymore. She will continue to
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