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Old 07-14-2015, 11:51 AM
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no sympathy at all for him


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Sorry, I realize that he's an adult who's responsible for his own actions but he's also an addict, just as another prominent member of the band once was. I do feel sympathy for the man and hope that he can find a way to give up smoking. Another one of my favorites, Leonard Nimoy, passed away earlier this year due to COPD after years of smoking. As both a Fleetwood Mac and Star Trek fan, I want to see John live longer and prosper.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:22 PM
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It depends on what type of colorectal cancer he had. Cigarette smoking increases the risk of MSI-H CRC, while alcohol intake increases the risk MSI-L CRC. According to Christine, he gave up drinking after the diagnosis. So, reading between the lines, his cancer was probably related more to his heavy alcohol use.
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Old 07-14-2015, 03:18 PM
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Yes, but surely now he's on a strict health plan with a diet and meds and it isn't wise to take them while smoking anyway.
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Sorry, I realize that he's an adult who's responsible for his own actions but he's also an addict, just as another prominent member of the band once was. I do feel sympathy for the man and hope that he can find a way to give up smoking. Another one of my favorites, Leonard Nimoy, passed away earlier this year due to COPD after years of smoking. As both a Fleetwood Mac and Star Trek fan, I want to see John live longer and prosper.
Leonard Nimoy hadn't smoked in over 30 years when he died. Which proves the point that someone else made, the damage had been done.
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Old 07-14-2015, 05:24 PM
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What in the devil, John? Could you HAVE more assistants? Next thing I know, he's going to have his own back up singers.

So, he and Lindsey didn't want to hug goodbye?

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Old 07-14-2015, 07:16 PM
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I was surprised too to see him smoking after beating cancer. But it's a hard addiction to break. I haven't smoked since my early 20's, but I still have an occasional craving.
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Old 07-17-2015, 06:50 PM
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What in the devil, John? Could you HAVE more assistants? Next thing I know, he's going to have his own back up singers.

So, he and Lindsey didn't want to hug goodbye?

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I guess that hand gesture thing from John and the high wave over the head from LB is as bromancy as those two get. (Insert Tim Allen grunt).
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:36 PM
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I guess that hand gesture thing from John and the high wave over the head from LB is as bromancy as those two get. (Insert Tim Allen grunt).
to me it looks like they are waving and gesturing to someone behind them, not saying goodbye to each other, since the 2 of them walked together for a while after that. LB turns all the way behind him and waves really high.
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I guess that hand gesture thing from John and the high wave over the head from LB is as bromancy as those two get. (Insert Tim Allen grunt).
I wonder how Mick and Lindsey part. I bet they touch as they bid adieu. Michele
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What in the devil, John? Could you HAVE more assistants? Next thing I know, he's going to have his own back up singers.

So, he and Lindsey didn't want to hug goodbye?

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He needs those assistants to keep his cigarette stash in stock. I assume he is the only one in the band that still smokes them.

Stevie had a passing phase smoking Kools. Lindsey must have smoked cigarettes for a time -- he is seen smoking on stage in the Mirage concert video. Christine used to smoke cigarettes, but I assume she quit a long time ago. I don't think Mick has ever been a smoker (pot exemption for all them).
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He needs those assistants to keep his cigarette stash in stock. I assume he is the only one in the band that still smokes them.

Stevie had a passing phase smoking Kools. Lindsey must have smoked cigarettes for a time -- he is seen smoking on stage in the Mirage concert video. Christine used to smoke cigarettes, but I assume she quit a long time ago. I don't think Mick has ever been a smoker (pot exemption for all them).
Richard said Lindsey never smoked cigarettes (tobacco ones). In addition to the Mirage video, there are a number of pictures of him smoking something; I always assume it's a joint.
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Leonard Nimoy hadn't smoked in over 30 years when he died. Which proves the point that someone else made, the damage had been done.
Nimoy was already in his 50's when he quit and lived another 30 years. John is pushing 70 but apparently is still smoking. His habit will continue to have a negative impact on his health and will make it much less likely that he will live as long as Nimoy did. COPD is not at all a pleasant way to go.

Here is a quote from a Wikipedia article regarding COPD:

In those who smoke, stopping smoking is the only measure shown to slow down the worsening of COPD.[59] Even at a late stage of the disease, it can reduce the rate of worsening lung function and delay the onset of disability and death.[60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroni...monary_disease
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I'm certainly no doctor, but...
surely if you've smoked heavily all your life, by the time you reach that age it isn't going to make the blindest bit of difference to your future health whether you give up or not. The damage to your lungs in particular would be pretty much irreparable.
Arguably, a smoking addict giving up something they've relied on so much after such a long time would hit the body more and likely have a huge impact on the immune system.
...but I'm no doctor!
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It seems a little disingenuous to judge how much someone smokes by a video shot at the airport after a long flight.
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