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Old 12-17-2014, 09:58 PM
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There's a difference between depression and psychosis.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:27 PM
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:12 AM
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James thanks for explaining about your mental health diagnosis, it should help others understand why some of your posts are a bit rambling. I think you made a really important point -

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Treat mentally ill people (like Me and others) with respect, kindness, care and compassion
As others have said, maybe you could post your political views in the chit chat section, just about anything goes in there

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There's a difference between depression and psychosis.
They are both mental health issues.

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Old 12-18-2014, 11:25 AM
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There's a difference between depression and psychosis.
They are different diseases but they're both problems we shouldn't make fun of.

By the way the author of this thread at the start made different threads that asked similar things and then they got brought together in this single thread, so that explains a lot of the "fragmentation" in the statements.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:39 PM
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[I]What is your most important project that the band could or "should" work on in its short to mid-term (x2 questions there) future?
Do you like a certain band member more than another?

Do you like a certain songwriter more than another?

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?

Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?

Do you believe in this band's collective willpower overthrowing any selective interest groups, or not really?

Do you think that these people are smooth musical operators?

\Or do you think they are a promotors' "worst nightmare"?

Do you believe in word of mouth or do you favour the Internet and the social media spread of words/written texts?

Do you read, much?

Do you like to sing in the shower?

Or, do you keep quiet about your musical prowess? Haha



And, most importantly

- Do you believe in blank cheques?
- Or did you realise that this a script to steer the discussion towards the centre fanbase ???
I think the best move for Fleetwood Mac now is to release box-sets of their classic albums comprehensive of the remastered original album, a disc of alternate versions and outer outtakes and a remastered live DVD, not again the Rosebud documentary because it's an offense to the paying fanbase.
In particular I really miss this shows and if it exists, the unrelease filmed footage that's not been chosen for the video:

1975 Largo
1975 Passaic
1976 Rosebud
1976 Midnight special
1977 Tokyo
1977 Sidney
1978 Largo
1979 Largo
1979 Tusk documentary (St. Louis)
1980 Richfield (lost)
1982 San Bernardino or Us festival (unreleased)
1982 Inglewood or HBO concert
1987 San Francisco

I LIKE all the band members, but I'll always love Stevie a tiny bit more. She's also my favourite songwriter.

I'd like Stevie to sing one of her most meaningful ballads like Lady, Beauty and the beast or Has anyone ever written anything for you with Christine on piano.

P.S. I think John's bass is the heart beat of all Fleetwood Mac songs

I don't know if this band's collective willpower could overthrow a selective interest group, like what? Can you make an example?

If by "smooth musical operators" you mean professional, I think yes, with the passage of time they've become certainly much more mature after 40 years of experience.

For certainties I don't favor neither social media nor passage of mouth, I only turn to public notices. For everything else official sites and forums.

I read a lot but before university I used to read a lot of novels, now I only have time to read university books.

I don't sing in the shower, I sing doing housecores (but not wearing underwear!)
I have to say that during high school I was for a bit in the acting after school club where I had to sing among the other things, but I wasn't bad.

WTF is a blank cheque?

I don't think we should even talk about the existence of a centre fanbase with such diversity of opinion in our group.

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Old 12-18-2014, 01:58 PM
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I think the best move for Fleetwood Mac now is to release box-sets of their classic albums comprehensive of the remastered original album, a disc of alternate versions and outer outtakes and a remastered live DVD, not again the Rosebud documentary because it's an offense to the paying fanbase.
In particular I really miss this shows and if it exists, the unrelease filmed footage that's not been chosen for the video:

1975 Largo
1975 Passaic
1976 Rosebud
1976 Midnight special
1977 Tokyo
1977 Sidney
1978 Largo
1979 Largo
1979 Tusk documentary (St. Louis)
1980 Richfield (lost)
1982 San Bernardino or Us festival (unreleased)
1982 Inglewood or HBO concert
1987 San Francisco

I LIKE all the band members, but I'll always love Stevie a tiny bit more. She's also my favourite songwriter.

I'd like Stevie to sing one of her most meaningful ballads like Lady, Beauty and the beast or Has anyone ever written anything for you with Christine on piano.

I don't know if this band's collective willpower could overthrow a selective interest group, like what? Can you make an example?

If by "smooth musical operators" you mean professional, I think yes, with the passage of time they've become certainly much more mature after 40 years of experience.

For certainties I don't favor neither social media nor passage of mouth, I only turn to public notices. For everything else official sites and forums.

I read a lot but before university I used to read a lot of novels, now I only have time to read university books.

I don't sing in the shower, I sing doing housecores (but not wearing underwear!)
I have to say that during high school I was for a bit in the acting after school club where I had to sing among the other things, but I wasn't bad.

WTF is a blank cheque?

I don't think we should even talk about the existence of a centre fanbase with such diversity of opinion in our group.
"Selective Interest Group"= The machine that promotes/manages the band or individual members...I wonder how much influence "The Interest Group" has over the band and what percentage of the decisions made are actually made by the band itself or what the "Interest Group" has convinced the band is in their best interest to do...

I would imagine the "Interest Group" gets a percentage of the profits so are their decisions based on what's best for the band or their own motivation to increase the balance in their own bank account...

On the flip side how much resistance would the "Interest Group" give the band if FM informed said "Interest Group" that "We have decided not to tour for a few years and instead work on new music" Or what if FM decided that they were tired of the "Cash Cow" tours and wanted to play smaller venues and perform a largely acoustic set encompassing FM in it's entirety? I would imagine the "Interest Group" would try and talk them out of it since it would generate less revenue and in turn the "Interest Group" would have their income reduced. Would the band have the "Collective Willpower" in such a situation to tell them "This is what we are doing if you do not want to make it happen we will find somebody that will"

Who is really running the show? Could FM be just puppets in their own play?

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Old 12-18-2014, 03:34 PM
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"Selective Interest Group"= The machine that promotes/manages the band or individual members...I wonder how much influence "The Interest Group" has over the band and what percentage of the decisions made are actually made by the band itself or what the "Interest Group" has convinced the band is in their best interest to do...

I would imagine the "Interest Group" gets a percentage of the profits so are their decisions based on what's best for the band or their own motivation to increase the balance in their own bank account...

On the flip side how much resistance would the "Interest Group" give the band if FM informed said "Interest Group" that "We have decided not to tour for a few years and instead work on new music" Or what if FM decided that they were tired of the "Cash Cow" tours and wanted to play smaller venues and perform a largely acoustic set encompassing FM in it's entirety? I would imagine the "Interest Group" would try and talk them out of it since it would generate less revenue and in turn the "Interest Group" would have their income reduced. Would the band have the "Collective Willpower" in such a situation to tell them "This is what we are doing if you do not want to make it happen we will find somebody that will"

Who is really running the show? Could FM be just puppets in their own play?
Thank you, overthrowing the language gap is difficult for europeans.
By the way I think that the Interest group probably has much more power with pop new acts, that usually don't write their own songs and music and have small experience.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:17 PM
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What is your most important project that the band could or "should" work on in its short to mid-term (x2 questions there) future?
Recording as much as possible, releasing those recordings, and hiring a band archivist to work with Warner to make sure everything in any Warner/Reprise vault anywhere is catalogued and accounted for.

Do you like a certain band member more than another?
Yes.

Do you like a certain songwriter more than another?
Yes.

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?
Not so much, but who knows - it could be great.

Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?
Bass is important unless you're going for a no-guitars sound.

Do you believe in this band's collective willpower overthrowing any selective interest groups, or not really?
I don't believe this band has any collective willpower. They are all too self-centered to pursue any activity that isn't of individual benefit, rather than collectively beneficial.

Do you think that these people are smooth musical operators?
No, lol.

Or do you think they are a promotors' "worst nightmare"?
For sure - but if I were a promoter, it is a nightmare I'd happily take on.

Do you believe in word of mouth or do you favour the Internet and the social media spread of words/written texts?
Word of mouth isn't important in our current society. I say that with sarcasm and a bit of sadness, but I also believe it is true. If you have something of importance to share, it must be through social media or no one cares.

Do you read, much?
Not as much as I'd like to, but I lack the willpower to change my habits and make time for reading.

Do you like to sing in the shower?
Who doesn't? I don't mean to - I'm just in there, and suddenly, belting out "Since you've been gone, Rome burned down!"
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Old 12-18-2014, 05:31 PM
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The best thing that FM can do now is something different " Fill in the blank_________" then what they have been doing for the last 40 plus years.

Maybe now is the time for a change.Try something different .Other artists and bands have done it and the fans were happy.
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Old 12-18-2014, 07:48 PM
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What is your most important project that the band could or "should" work on in its short to mid-term (x2 questions there) future?
Put out that album they've been working on since 2012. NOW! (or 2015 the latest)

Do you like a certain band member more than another?
Yes.

Do you like a certain songwriter more than another?
Yes.

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?
No.

Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?
Yes to bass. since you specifically ask, i prefer not having to see Stevie on stage.

Do you believe in this band's collective willpower overthrowing any selective interest groups, or not really?
There is no collective willpower. And interest groups assertion is a good one. Seems that since Mick got them in trouble with his bad management skills during Tusk tour, they've been bowing down to selective management / interest groups to make sure they actually make money on tours... and that has put them in a completely different corner they are apparently willing to stay in.

Do you think that these people are smooth musical operators?
No.

Or do you think they are a promotors' "worst nightmare"?
Probably not.

Do you believe in word of mouth or do you favour the Internet and the social media spread of words/written texts?
What's the difference (unless you take the mouth part literally )? Isn't social media word of mouth these days?
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Old 12-19-2014, 01:52 AM
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What is your most important project that the band could or "should" work on in its short to mid-term (x2 questions there) future?
Put out that album they've been working on since 2012. NOW! (or 2015 the latest)

Do you like a certain band member more than another?
Yes.

Do you like a certain songwriter more than another?
Yes.

Would you be interested in a C. McVie/John McVie and S. Nicks collaboration? Or not so much?
No.

Do you think the bass line of songs lifts their atmosphere or do you prefer seeing Stevie and Lindsey on stage alone or with just, Mr Fleetwood?
Yes to bass. since you specifically ask, i prefer not having to see Stevie on stage.

Do you believe in this band's collective willpower overthrowing any selective interest groups, or not really?
There is no collective willpower. And interest groups assertion is a good one. Seems that since Mick got them in trouble with his bad management skills during Tusk tour, they've been bowing down to selective management / interest groups to make sure they actually make money on tours... and that has put them in a completely different corner they are apparently willing to stay in.

Do you think that these people are smooth musical operators?
No.

Or do you think they are a promotors' "worst nightmare"?
Probably not.

Do you believe in word of mouth or do you favour the Internet and the social media spread of words/written texts?
What's the difference (unless you take the mouth part literally )? Isn't social media word of mouth these days?
LOL - You're funny Elle! Stevie is on your permanent sh*t list
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Old 12-19-2014, 02:38 AM
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This is the best thread ever. I love it.
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The most stimulating post I've read in awhile. It's everywhere, like a room full of talking people.
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I'd like to see the band play with their voices more in any (hopefully) future recordings.

- a song with Stevie AND Christine singing lead. Does one even exist? These fools don't realize you can actually write songs for other people and not only for yourself.

- a song with Lindsey AND Christine singing together, where Stevie can also be heard

- another song with Stevie AND Lindsey singing together, where Christine can also be heard in background vocals
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