new FM album - options?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by KarmaContestant

No...not really. Have you heard the Gypsy outtake from Bella Donna? Well -imagine if Stevie had just brought that track to the Mirage sessions and the band had just played it back the same way - It would have been a totally different song - nothing like the Gypsy that we ended up getting.

Instead, Lindsey was allowed to rebuild that track and the end result is a song that only vaguely resembles the original, but is far superior in every conceivable way.

That's a valid point, but for every song he's made superior, there's a song he's ruined. Just look at Smile At You, for example.

Personally, I don't care what material they use, as long as it ends up sounding like a band album - not just two solo albums on shuffle. They didn't even harmonise on SYW, so much as echo each other.

[elle]

Originally Posted by Artemis

That's a valid point, but for every song he's made superior, there's a song he's ruined. Just look at Smile At You, for example.

maybe now stevie grew more ego and he's not allowed to do to her songs whatever he wants anymore like he used to do in the past? seems that when he had free reigns he made almost every song he touched superior (did you all hear Hold Me demo?).

Smile at you is almost the only example that keeps coming up as the song he "ruined", and that was recent. we all saw DR doc - seems like they kept ending up in some kind of half-a** compromise during their work on SYW. and didn't stevie say she sequenced SYW? bad sequencing is one of the problems with that album, imo.


EDIT: although i have to say that LB definitely diminished some of his solo songs that i loved as demos but only like as released songs.

[bluefox4000]

I had heard, (here I think) that she sequenced the album, and was rather proud. If that's True.....Major fail, Stevie. If not, it's still a bad album

Mick

[elle]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

I had heard, (here I think) that she sequenced the album, and was rather proud.

i think she said it in DR doc.

[McTrouble]

I've only one thing to add really - and that's I'd love another album in any shape or form. I actually adore SYW so if we had one final album, and it measured up to this, I would be well content!

[KarmaContestant]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Personally, I don't care what material they use, as long as it ends up sounding like a band album - not just two solo albums on shuffle. They didn't even harmonise on SYW, so much as echo each other.

I pretty much agree with this right here. I'd like another Fleetwood Mac album that sounded like a joint effort instead of a potluck of songs.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

maybe now stevie grew more ego and he's not allowed to do to her songs whatever he wants anymore like he used to do in the past? seems that when he had free reigns he made almost every song he touched superior (did you all hear Hold Me demo?).

Although I agree that Lindsey converted Hold Me and it amuses me because it's very feminine and he made it that way, yet he thinks -- anyway, I wouldn't say that he had free reign on any of Christine's songs. Corroborating, taking in input and letting someone do something to your song when you're a musician yourself is different than what he was called upon to do with Stevie's songs.

Aside from that, the "angry" SAY that everyone likes so much might have been FM as well.

Michele

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

anyway, I wouldn't say that he had free reign on any of Christine's songs. Corroborating, taking in input and letting someone do something to your song when you're a musician yourself is different than what he was called upon to do with Stevie's songs.

very much agree, that came out wrong while writing down the stream of conscientiousness. love Christine/Lindsey collaborations - i think they were great together!

[MikeInNV]

Originally Posted by bluefox4000

I had heard, (here I think) that she sequenced the album, and was rather proud. If that's True.....Major fail, Stevie. If not, it's still a bad album

Mick

I thought that part of the big fight that ensued with Lindsey while the rest of the band was in Hawaii was that he changed the sequencing. I could swear I remember Stevie making a comment about not liking some of the esoteric tracks like Murrow and Illume being right up there as album openers. (I'm also not sure Stevie's sequence would have only two of her songs among the first six, LOL.)

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by elle

i think she said it in DR doc.

no.

their big fight was that Lindsey did the tracklisting for SYW. but that issue is never dealt with at all in the doc.

Stevie credits herself with doing the tracklisting to Rumours.


ETA: And, in my opinion, both Rumours and SYW are brilliantly tracklisted. (That said: SYW should have been a double-CD)

[michelej1]

Yes, the sequencing for SYW was the pits. There's one back-to-back part on that album that they use to induce comas for people who have suffered head injuries.

Michele

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by michelej1

Yes, the sequencing for SYW was the pits. There's one back-to-back part on that album that they use to induce comas for people who have suffered head injuries.

Michele

It was just too damned long. It should have been cut down to about 10 songs. They could have made a decent album out of 10 songs.


Oh yeah, and had their hitmaker on board for the project.

[Macfanforever]

I love SYW.Now almost 10 years later .as time changes Will FM get radio airplay.SYW got great radio airplay.I dont want to see a repeat of zero or little commecial radio response to FM like radio turn their backs to Lindsey and Stevie's latest outings.Try country like the Eagles did .Or Fleetwood Rap Mac.Oh my gawd.

[michelej1]

I am an SYW fan, for the most part. I was in no way disappointed with the effort. I just don't think the way the album is sequenced helps sell it. The way it starts out doesn't set the mood and is not representative of the album as a whole or of what you'd expect from this band. Honestly, I wouldn't want a Lindsey album to start off with WTWCT and Morrow, much less a Fleetwood Mac album!

Then when you get to the deadpoint where Silver Girl follows Running Through the Garden it's like "Oh man, I'm going to need a rosary tout de suite."

Michele

[PenguinHead]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I am an SYW fan, for the most part. I was in no way disappointed with the effort. I just don't think the way the album is sequenced helps sell it. The way it starts out doesn't set the mood and is not representative of the album as a whole or of what you'd expect from this band. Honestly, I wouldn't want a Lindsey album to start off with WTWCT and Morrow, much less a Fleetwood Mac album!

Then when you get to the deadpoint where Silver Girl follows Running Through the Garden it's like "Oh man, I'm going to need a rosary tout de suite."

Michele

I agree with you. The songs aren't presented well in the way they are sequenced. Had they chosen 12 songs, with the rest of songs on a bonus disc/deluxe version, it would have made the album more accessible.