Fans from the 80's: Tango memories?

[omdguy]

First off, let me mention I am a first time poster here, and slowly becoming a fan (at age 37 nonetheless )

'Tango' was my first real look at the band, and this just happened 3 weeks ago. I Tivo VH1's "We are the 80's" to catch glimpses of some of my favorite videos from years past. When I see videos I like, I record them to tape, then to my hard drive to make DVD's. Well, "Little Lies" happened to be on there, and it was the first I had heard of the song (shocking isn't it!) I rewound the video a couple of times and really started to get into the song. Soon, I was on Google learning and reading more about the album, and the band in general. I picked up the Greatest Hits and have been enjoying that quite a bit.

From there, I hit E-Bay and found a concert DVD o 'Tango' and grabbed it immediately. It arrived a couple days ago, so I popped it in, cranked up the surround sound and watched.

I sat waiting to see Lindsey, and lo and behold, no Lindsey. Dissapontment #1 with this DVD.

I then forwarded to Little Lies, and it simply isn't the same song without Lindsey's playing. I was also dissapointed in Stevei's performance during the whole thing as it seemed to be 'mailed in'.

What I did like was "Everywhere" (again, a new song for me) and the drum solo that Mick did, that was awesome.

So, my question(s) to the more educated fans is.

1. What was the delta of time from Little Lies being released and Lindsey leaving the band? I found it strange that he was in the video, but not on the tour.

2. Does a video of "Everywhere" exist somewhere? Google is failing me on this one.

3. Is there a reccomended concert DVD that has the 5 I consider to be FM (Chris, Stevie, Lindsey, Mick and John)?

4. Was the song "Second Hand News" ever played on tour (another favorite I have found via MusicMatch)?

5. Straying a bit here... Another absolute favorite of mine is Lindsey's "Trouble" from Law and Order. I have the video, and is that Mick playing drums in the video with him? Anyone know who the otehrs are or were they just his session band for the album?

Many thanks in advance for your help. I am very much a newbie, and I have read a lot of great threads here, and since I just go my account approved, I thought I would test the waters here with my silly questions.

Cheers,

Pat

[David]

Originally Posted by omdguy

1. What was the delta of time from Little Lies being released and Lindsey leaving the band?

About four hours. The "Little Lies" video premiered & Lindsey left the band all around August 1987. The "Tango" album was released earlier that spring.

2. Does a video of "Everywhere" exist somewhere? Google is failing me on this one.

Yes. See the discography & videography on this site (www.fleetwoodmac.net).

3. Is there a reccomended concert DVD that has the 5 I consider to be FM (Chris, Stevie, Lindsey, Mick and John)?

The only one currently in print is "The Dance." See the videography here or check Amazon.

4. Was the song "Second Hand News" ever played on tour (another favorite I have found via MusicMatch)?

In 1977, 1978, 1979, 1982, 1997, 2003 & 2004.

5. Straying a bit here... Another absolute favorite of mine is Lindsey's "Trouble" from Law and Order. I have the video, and is that Mick playing drums in the video with him? Anyone know who the otehrs are or were they just his session band for the album?

Yes, Mick on drums. Also Walter Egan, Bob Weston (former Fleetwood Mac member), possibly Steve Ross & Ray Lindsey & Bob Aguirre (former Fritz member), maybe even Dennis Dunstan (security & management). It also looks like Bob Welch in the video, but he himself insists he's not in it.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by omdguy

1. What was the delta of time from Little Lies being released and Lindsey leaving the band? I found it strange that he was in the video, but not on the tour.

I don't know the exact release date for "Little Lies" (it should be in the liner notes to 'The Very Best Of Fleetwood Mac' though), but I believe it was available as a single pretty much within the same week or so as it was announced Lindsey had left the band.
Of course, radio had started to play it a little before that, and I believe MTV was already playing the video before too. It always seemed that radio and MTV started playing the singles before you could actually buy them.

Originally Posted by omdguy

2. Does a video of "Everywhere" exist somewhere? Google is failing me on this one.

Yes, there is actually a video for "Everywhere." The band (only Christine, John & Mick) is seen very briefly, as the storyline (based on Alfred Noyes' 'The Highwayman') takes centerstage.
There's another edit of the video though, which focuses only on the storyline with no band appearances.

I'm not sure if anyone on the net has it up for download. I don't believe I've ever seen it on anyone's site.

Originally Posted by omdguy

3. Is there a reccomended concert DVD that has the 5 I consider to be FM (Chris, Stevie, Lindsey, Mick and John)?

At the moment, the only officially released concert DVD to feature the entire 'Rumours'-era lineup, is 'The Dance'... FM's 1997 reunion concert which was first broadcast on MTV.
You should be able to find it anywhere that sells music-related DVDs.
I highly recommend it, though others feel it's a little too "polished" (but, then, this lineup of FM is known for their polished sound).

Originally Posted by omdguy

4. Was the song "Second Hand News" ever played on tour (another favorite I have found via MusicMatch)?

"Second Hand News" has been performed on several tours. In fact, every Mac tour in which Lindsey has participated since the release of 'Rumours,' has featured "Second Hand News" in the setlist.

There's a really terrific live version of it on the band's 2004 DVD/CD combo, 'Live In Boston' (which features Lindsey, Stevie, John & Mick in the lineup).

Originally Posted by omdguy

5. Straying a bit here... Another absolute favorite of mine is Lindsey's "Trouble" from Law and Order. I have the video, and is that Mick playing drums in the video with him? Anyone know who the otehrs are or were they just his session band for the album?

Yep, that's Mick! Some of the other guys are Bob Welch and Bob Weston (both former Fleetwood Mac guitarists), Walter Egan (best known for his hit "Magnet & Steel"), and other friends and associates of Lindsey and Fleetwood Mac.

Originally Posted by omdguy

I am very much a newbie, and I have read a lot of great threads here, and since I just go my account approved, I thought I would test the waters here with my silly questions.

They weren't silly at all. Feel free to ask about anything you'd like to know... we're always more than happy around here to help out.

Welcome to the Ledge, Pat!

[Johnny Stew]

Ugh... how embarrassing.
Started typing out my response earlier, and had to leave it unfinished for a bit. Finally get back to the PC, finish my post, hit submit and see that David had beaten me to it.

Sorry about the repeated info!

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by David

It also looks like Bob Welch in the video, but he himself insists he's not in it.

My memory failed me on that one. I had forgotten that Bob has said it's not him.

[wondergirl9847]

You don't wanna see the Everywhere video, Lindsey isn't in it and it's lame. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it. LOL

I only became a fan of Lindsey, then FM, in 2001, but Tango, along with Mirage, were the first two CD's I got. Well, technically, I got the green FM Greatest Hits album first, but in terms of albums and not greatest hits...anyways... Tango jumped out at me because I love 80's music and it's VERY 80's. I had heard Little Lies and Everywhere growing up so I was familiar with those songs. Tango and Mirage hold a special place in my heart since they were my first FM albums....ya know, besides the 1988 GH CD. LOL!!

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by wondergirl9847

You don't wanna see the Everywhere video, Lindsey isn't in it and it's lame. That's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it. LOL

I feel the same way about it because Stevie's not in it!

Actually, it wouldn't have mattered to me that Stevie wasn't there (it is Christine's song after all), if the video was actually better. It just seems... lifeless and beneath Fleetwood Mac.
"Everywhere" is a buoyant song with a great groove, and deserved better than that video. (It deserved better when it comes to Jellybean's extended remix, too. He did a terrific job on "Little Lies" and "Seven Wonders," but "Everywhere" came out tepid.)

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I feel the same way about it because Stevie's not in it!

Actually, it wouldn't have mattered to me that Stevie wasn't there (it is Christine's song after all), if the video was actually better. It just seems... lifeless and beneath Fleetwood Mac.
"Everywhere" is a buoyant song with a great groove, and deserved better than that video. (It deserved better when it comes to Jellybean's extended remix, too. He did a terrific job on "Little Lies" and "Seven Wonders," but "Everywhere" came out tepid.)

I have a special that aired in Australia that is all about the making of the "Everywhere" video and it's no wonder it looks so cheap. The "castle" was a cardboard model about the size of my computer desk.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by dissention

I have a special that aired in Australia that is all about the making of the "Everywhere" video and it's no wonder it looks so cheap. The "castle" was a cardboard model about the size of my computer desk.

I've seen that too. The director (or was it the producer?) says something about having a lot of money and needing to spend it somewhere, and I just couldn't help but think whoever built that model, inflated the costs and then pocketed the rest.

They should have had a "Make Fleetwood Mac's Video" contest... ANYONE in FM's fan community could have come up with a better video, IMO.

[omdguy]

Many thanks to everyone for your answers, great info indeed.

I'm off to Amazon to check out some DVD's.

Pat

[JamieSPC]

"Tango" was the second FM album I bought... I have great memories of it.

Love the long "Tangoooooooo" note (synthesized or not) and remember me and my friends trying to hold it as long as Lindsey did.

And I always liked "Mystified" an awful lot... just something about the feel of the song.

Since it was such a big part of my adolescence, I'd probably still put it as my third favorite Mac album behind Tusk and Rumours.

~Jamie