The album that could have been...

[CarneVaca]

Strand, if you're going to get that picky, then I would do the following:

Disc One:
Twist of Fate
Shuffle Riff
The Dealer (a stretch, I know)
Down on Rodeo
Thrown Down
Deep Dense
Red Rover
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind
Say You Will
Miranda
Goodbye Baby


Disc Two:
What's the World Coming To
Illume
Peacekeeper (the original)
Smile At You
Gift of Screws
Murrow
Destiny Rules
Love Minus Zero/No Limit
The Singer Not the Song
Say Goodbye

[wondergirl9847]

I like your list, but WTWCT and Singer Not the Song could be replaced by SYHA and Come. I prefer those two.

But hey, as long as Red Rover is there...WHATEVAH!!

LOL

The Dealer's time has passed IMO...perfection for Belladonna.

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Strand, if you're going to get that picky, then I would do the following:

Disc One:
Twist of Fate
Shuffle Riff
The Dealer (a stretch, I know)
Down on Rodeo
Thrown Down
Deep Dense
Red Rover
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind
Say You Will
Miranda
Goodbye Baby


Disc Two:
What's the World Coming To
Illume
Peacekeeper (the original)
Smile At You
Gift of Screws
Murrow
Destiny Rules
Love Minus Zero/No Limit
The Singer Not the Song
Say Goodbye

Me Picky

I would put a killer LB produced "Space Needle" in the place of Deep Dense and Bleed to Love Her in place of WTWCT. But, there is no reason both of these couldn't be added to your list!!!

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Me Picky

I would put a killer LB produced "Space Needle" in the place of Deep Dense and Bleed to Love Her in place of WTWCT. But, there is no reason both of these couldn't be added to your list!!!

I don't know Space Needle. WHere might I find it?

[strandinthewind]

I have it, but not here. I can email it to you tommorow when I get to my other comp. PM me with your address, etc.

Here are the lyrics. It is kind of a trippy out there song. I think it could be done a la a Saraesq myterious kind of song.

Space Needle


I remember the long, cold winter
I remember being hot all the time
I remember the black Space Needle
Casting its black shadow down through time
I remember the loss of enchantment
In everyone I'd see
And seeing my own face
In each one of their faces
Looking back at me

Beautiful faces...
Not so beautiful anymore
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
That was then... this is now

Through the long, hard summer
I remember feeling cold in the heat
I remember an icy feeling
Working through the streets

I remember the loss of enchantment
Everyone I'd see
I see my own face in each one of their faces
Looking back at me
My own face... in each one of their faces
Looking back at me

Beautiful faces...
Not so beautiful anymore
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
That was then... this is now

One day comes, and then it goes
It's all the same to me now
Another day here is like another day closer
To getting out of this town
And one thing I said I would never do
Was come from a place of fear
But fear is nothing, nothing to me now
...I no longer care
Fear is nothing to me now
I no longer care

Beautiful faces...
Not so beautiful anymore
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
That was then... this is now

We've got to get out of this place
If it's the last thing we ever do
A haunting song from the rock and roll past...
Ooh, they said that, too
Now we are dying, just like them
It's a stranger deja vu
Ooh, the tar people are back again
Sad... very true

Well, they're back again...
Sad, it's very true

Beautiful faces...
Not so beautiful anymore
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
That was then... this is now

Sometimes I feel like how could this have happened,
How could this happen to me?
Sometimes the sun shines from behind the black needle
But it is never sunny
Ooh, it is always black
There is always a shadow
A shadow following me
My music is lost, I am very thin
I am always in need
My music is lost, I am very thin
I am always in need

Beautiful faces...
Not so beautiful anymore
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
I was hopeful, that was then... this is now
When it began I was standing at the crossroads
I was hopeful, that was then... this is now
That was then... and this is now
This is now...
This is now...
This is now...
This is now...
Now...

[HomerMcvie]

Ummm....I guess I disagree with you on these two points. I don't think that Say You Will is too long, I mean, we haven't had anything new from them in quite a number of years

I think the main CD should've been pared down by a few songs. Put the non flowing clunkers on the BONUS disk! Duh. What do you have then? An album with a MUCH better flow(which might've sold better). The fanatics are gonna buy the Deluxe set anyway, so they still get the songs that don't fit, on the 2nd CD. Just because you can fit 80 minutes on a CD, doesn't mean you should.

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Strand, if you're going to get that picky, then I would do the following:

Disc One:
Twist of Fate
Shuffle Riff
The Dealer (a stretch, I know)
Down on Rodeo
Thrown Down
Deep Dense
Red Rover
Someone's Gotta Change Your Mind
Say You Will
Miranda
Goodbye Baby


Disc Two:
What's the World Coming To
Illume
Peacekeeper (the original)
Smile At You
Gift of Screws
Murrow
Destiny Rules
Love Minus Zero/No Limit
The Singer Not the Song
Say Goodbye

Good one!, But: replace the two covers with Come and Given Thing. But still: we will have a "self-indulged" album here.....



gerald

[SteveMacD]

Originally posted by chiliD
So, you're saying that you've changed your opinion of Time over the course of the last decade? You were always (along with me) one of its most vocal proponents. What's up?

I've always said that it was a poor band effort, that it felt more like a compilation than a new album. Christine sound horribly out of place. Dave's stuff pales in comparison to his solo material. His material sounds way too '80s, which was bad in 1995. And, Bekka and Billy sound too restrained. There was very little balance with the album.

[dissention]

Originally posted by ShangriLaTroubl
I'm not a big fan of Lindsey's GOS Peacekeeper...I think Stevie's vocals make it a good song......I'm glad they actually paired up vocally on the lead parts on a couple of songs...in my opinion THAT if anything is what made it have a Fleetwood Mac feel...and not just two solo albums called a Fleetwood Mac album feel....

Chris

I like Stevie's vocals on the verses, but they aggravate me during the chorus. I think that she should've been left off of it and the solo version should've been in its place. The solo version was a harder rocker, whereas the album version was too soft.

[Josh2003]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
I don't know Space Needle. WHere might I find it?

Look at Carne! He's a demo-collectin' fool now! Can't get enough!

[dissention]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
I don't know Space Needle. WHere might I find it?

Lord child, you're getting into the demos at an alarming rate.

[SteveMacD]

Originally posted by cliffdweller
Ummm....I guess I disagree with you on these two points. I don't think that Say You Will is too long, I mean, we haven't had anything new from them in quite a number of years, since Tango really, and it only makes sense that they have a lot to say, and frankly, I want as much material as I can get on a "come-lately" album from my favorite band.

Also, I think that SYW is a classic Mac album, albeit more of a Lindsey album than a Stevie one. The only gripe I have is that Stevie didn't represent herself to her fullest potential on SYW, I wish her material was a little stronger, there are some gems don't get me wrong, but I think we can all agree that this is a Lindsey album through and through. However, in the end, it's irrelevant who "shines" the most, SYW is a classic Mac album all the way, but maybe I'm easy to please!

I agree that it it's great to have a lot of new material. However, the album just does not flow well. As for your statement of SYW being a "classic Mac album, albeit more of a Lindsey album than a Stevie one," that's exactly why I don't think it's a classic Mac album. "Fleetwood Mac" and "Rumours" were classic Mac albums. There weren't any bad songs on either album, the songs flowed well together, the singers were all on par with each other, and you could listen to either album without skipping a track in one sitting. For me, that's a classic album. SYW is a great album, but it falls short of being a classic.

[SteveMacD]

Originally posted by DownOnRodeo
RTTG and Murrow are two of SYW's standout highlights for me. They've just got so much oomph. Sooner or Later does not have oomph.

I won't disagree on either point. "Sooner or Later" is my least favorite Christine song on "Time." However, it sounds surprisingly good after "Smile At You." As I said, that song could have easily been trimmed down by a minute.

As for RTTG and Murrow, I like both songs. But, my goal was to create a great Mac album, not necessarily an album of favorite, stand-out songs. To put it another way, I love "I'm So Afraid," but I don't think it would have fit on "Tusk."

[wondergirl9847]

I had to go dig out Space Needle to give it a listen...which also has The Dealer on it. YAY!! LOL

I love Space Needle...and usually songs that are like 8 minutes long, I am wanting to rip my hair out, but I loved it at first listen...it's so weird and unusual. That guy that comes in and sings with her sounds like Vince Gill to me, but I know it's not.

I wish she'd release it as is...it's awesome! A bonus single on her next solo album for goodness sakes...ANYTHING!!

[chiliD]

Originally posted by HomerMcvie
I think the main CD should've been pared down by a few songs. Put the non flowing clunkers on the BONUS disk! Duh. What do you have then? An album with a MUCH better flow(which might've sold better). The fanatics are gonna buy the Deluxe set anyway, so they still get the songs that don't fit, on the 2nd CD. Just because you can fit 80 minutes on a CD, doesn't mean you should.

I think re-programming the running order lessens the lack of flow.

My SYW order:

What's The World Coming To?
Thrown Down
Bleed To Love her
Say You Will
Miranda
Everybody Finds Out
Come
Running Through The Garden
Say Goodbye
Destiny Rules
Peacekeeper
Smile At You
Red Rover
Illume
Murrow Turning Over In His Grave
Not Make Believe (as a substitute for "Silver Girl")
Steal Your Heart Away
Goodbye Baby