The doc!!!

[diamondsnake]

Everybody take a deep breath!

[teedee]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
[B]I don't admit that at all. I've always criticized this song, even though I like it. I've always said it should have been in the first and second persons. And though that's not quite what Lindsey was suggesting, he was thinking along the same lines.

[b]

How do you know it's crap. She called you to tell you?

[b]

Well don't worry about it. I've never known anyone who starts a sentence with "I don't know how you" was ever really open to what the other person had to say, so let's just leave at that and move on. The world will keep on turning.



Boy, you sure have a lot of opinions, don't you? Opinions are better when they're not based on assumptions. I'm not a college professor nor do you know what I am going to say, so stop acting like you can predict my moves. If half the words of whatever poets you're thinking don't make sense "in English," can you extend them the same courtesy that you do Stevie when you say she can just justify herself with, "That's how I Write?" And yes, if you don't think the poetry makes sense, most likely it's because you're not getting. Don't worry, a lot of people don't.

So its ok for lindsey to go back and release songs that were intended to for a solo cd, but no t ok for stevie to go into her vaults as you so put it > why. stevie has tons of more songs written than lindsey, what is the problem with taking a son g she wrote and wanting to have it see the light of day, this i dont understand, its her song, its her group, do all her songs have to have the year 2002 on them. thats crazy,


"how do i know its crap, did she call you" no , but its obvious lindsey called you tho.

so your opinions are opinions, and my opinions are based on assumptions, hmmm you must of had an interesting convo with lindsey on the phone huh lol.

Can i extend a poet the same courtesy i give stevie, absolutely, thats why i stated it, but why cant you extend it to stevie as well.

you stated i predict what you are going to say , and then said when infact i dont know what you are going to say, but i do dont i , you r post stated just that.

as for an english professor, ok i know you are not a professor , but you stated earlier with a debate you had , that the english language was your specialty or something along those lines. as for you stating you always picked on thrown down, well id have to go and look back, but saying in the past that ppl thought it was a weak song or boring, is not what im talking about, first person, third person, who really cares... its a story, just cause you know she wrote it about lindsey,, think of it as a writer telling a story, about someone. and not so much about her speaking to lindsey . ok now can we move on? oh im having a prediction that cant. lol.... peace...

[teedee]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
[B]It's true what they say: The eye sees what it wants to see.

[b]

That's simple: Because I think she's stubborn.

[b]

What!? Do you want to rephrase that in a way that makes sense so I can answer it?




There you go again telling me what I'm going to say. You must have psychic powers.

ok i will rephrase it for you... stevie said on tv that TD was about lindsey,,,,, if she never stated that, i dont think the issue of who she was talking to, be it, lindsey or someone else, would be such an issue.

also if lindsey always did covers. and stevie does a cover here and there, how is he justified by it and she is criticized for it. yet, if she goes into her vaults of songs , from songs she wrote, people criticize her for doing so , when in fact they are her songs.. i thought stevie made it clear on the doc, that she had wanted some new songs for this cd so she wrote 4 new ones. also she was on tour for her new at the time TISL cd, see lindsey had his songs already practically done for his solo that never happened , but that he had been working on for years. i dont see the problem if a song was written years ago and makes it on a cd today, im glad it made it out of the vault.. please extend the same courtesy to stevie as you do to lindsey/and dont say its diferent cause he only had one really old song blah blah blah. stevie just has tons of more material. whats she suppose to do not care about those songs just cause they are old,, i thought i twas great that she wanted to add new songs to this cd instead of songs that she gathered ,but the reason she had to gather them is also cause she was on a solo tour and probably wasnt thinking that a cd by fleetwoodmac was going to come around, although i know she had wanted it to happen eventually. before you ask me how i know that, well , she s stated it in interviews and even mick stated it about her.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by teedee
So its ok for lindsey to go back and release songs that were intended to for a solo cd, but no t ok for stevie to go into her vaults as you so put it > why.

Why don't you quote back to me an instance in which I said that? Go ahead, find the post in which I said it's not OK for Stevie to release songs that were intended for a solo CD. If you weren't talking out of your ass, you might even know that whenever I've complained about Stevie's choices of songs for FM in the past I said that she kept the better songs for her solo records.

I have no problem with Stevie using songs she might have intended for a solo record in a Fleetwood Mac CD. And in fact, I complained when Lindsey decided to use his solo songs for Fleetwood Mac because, frankly, I thought Stevie would drag down the quality of the record. Seeing the results, I stand by that.

what is the problem with taking a son g she wrote and wanting to have it see the light of day, this i dont understand, its her song, its her group, do all her songs have to have the year 2002 on them. thats crazy,

Again, show me where I said anything even remotely approaching that.

so your opinions are opinions, and my opinions are based on assumptions .

Considering I've already pointed out twice in this post that you are responding to me to things I've never said, I think I've made the case that you are basing your opinions on assumptions. It must get dark in there, no?

you stated i predict what you are going to say , and then said when infact i dont know what you are going to say, but i do dont i , you r post stated just that.

I'll respond to that when you translate it to understandable English.

as for an english professor, ok i know you are not a professor , but you stated earlier with a debate you had , that the english language was your specialty or something along those lines.

You're not strong on interpretation, are you?

first person, third person, who really cares...

Evidently you do. A lot.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by teedee
ok i will rephrase it for you... stevie said on tv that TD was about lindsey,,,,, if she never stated that, i dont think the issue of who she was talking to, be it, lindsey or someone else, would be such an issue.

When have I raised the fact that the song is about Lindsey as an issue? Please quote me the post. I could care less who the song is about.

also if lindsey always did covers. and stevie does a cover here and there, how is he justified by it and she is criticized for it.

You've seen me criticize Stevie for doing covers? Let's see the quote. Because, man, I know I'm getting older, but I don't remember EVER picking on Stevie for doing covers. I love covers. I think often when an artist covers someone else's song, they bring new life and freshness to something you're used to hearing in a different way. It can be quite wonderful, actually.

yet, if she goes into her vaults of songs , from songs she wrote, people criticize her for doing so , when in fact they are her songs..

Dude, this is becoming a broken record here. When did I criticize her for it?

i dont see the problem if a song was written years ago and makes it on a cd today, im glad it made it out of the vault..

Deja vu all over again.

please extend the same courtesy to stevie as you do to lindsey/and dont say its diferent

It is different. And I will continue to say it. It is different. Very different. Completely different situation.

whats she suppose to do not care about those songs just cause they are old,, i thought i twas great that she wanted to add new songs to this cd instead of songs that she gathered ,

Really? I didn't get that from the six previous times you said this.

Before you ask me how i know that, well , she s stated it in interviews and even mick stated it about her.

Don't get psychic on me now.

[wildangel]

I usually just lurk but after reading the statement by carne about stevie bringing lindsey songs down I had to reply
As a longtime lurker I am used to carne's usual lindsey blowjobbing but this is a just ridiculous. All she did was put BG vocals on a few of his tracks. They don't sound much different. After hearing her demos on the doc. and loving the demo versions of Smile at You and Running Through the Garden I would say that you ( that is I, YOU, ME, HE, SHE pick your person and tense ) could make a case that lindsey brought stevies songs down

[CarneVaca]

Quoth wildangel:

I usually just lurk but after reading the statement by carne about stevie bringing lindsey songs down I had to reply

Firstly, let me humbly accept the credit for inspiring you to post finally. Muse is not a role I had fulfilled before. We need as many passionate posters as we can get.

Secondly, re-read what I said:

And in fact, I complained when Lindsey decided to use his solo songs for Fleetwood Mac because, frankly, I thought Stevie would drag down the quality of the record. Seeing the results, I stand by that.

"I thought Stevie would drag down the quality of the record," meaning the whole CD. I see how the statement was somewhat ambiguous, but I wasn't referring to Stevie ruining Lindsey's songs. I don't think that's what happened, though I admit Peacekeeper was a lot better before it was re-recorded with her vocals.

[BBALLGYPSY17]

I adore Stevie, you can ask anybody at this board, HOWEVER...I would have to say the quality was slightly botched on some of Lindsey's songs. I've learned to define the difference between loyalty and quality, and if one is truly loyal they'll give credit where credit is due. Listening to the pre-released Lindsey versions and then to the new cuts I wouldn't call her new vocals un-welcome as much as, well,... out of place.
Artistic integrity shouldn't be compromised as to define a so-obviously Lindsey track, a 'Fleetwood Mac' track with the simple addition of Stevie vocals, to be quite honest it wasn't cohesive enough for me.

[Bella Figura]

welcome back Alexis!!!

so Angel, too, has been cancelled!!! The Buffyverse is coming to a close. How's your writing going? I have been writing some fanfics but I'm holding off until the last epsode to complete them.

Carne...darling...you're up at bat waiting for strike 3!!! let teedee out of the sharks jaws...she doesn't understand your posts...and I'm getting very confused

btw, did Marty ever rescind your previous strikes??

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by Bella Figura
btw, did Marty ever rescind your previous strikes??

Oh, you are very bad... very bad indeed.

[BBALLGYPSY17]

Originally posted by Bella Figura
welcome back Alexis!!!

so Angel, too, has been cancelled!!! The Buffyverse is coming to a close. I have been writing some fanfics but I'm holding off until the last epsode to complete them.

Carne...darling...you're up at bat waiting for strike 3!!!

let teedee out of the sharks jaws...she doesn't understand your posts...

Thanks for the Welcome hun... I've been writing too, I'll PM ya....

And LOL... Take it easy on Carne. He's a brilliant poster with a different take is all and he creates dialogue. Which is what I like to do, just about other subjects Besides, I've grown up a lot, got a wider perspective. Her added vocals are 'shotty' at best sometimes in comparison to the first version of the song...IMHO.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by BBALLGYPSY17
Take it easy on Carne. He's a brilliant poster with a different take is all and he creates dialogue.

Why, thank you! Deep down I am really an

[Bella Figura]

Carne, that is the sweetest thing you've ever said to me!!!

Alexis, I'm bustin' on Carne and he knows it. I always read his posts with interest...

don't grow up too much!!! however, you are now an adult, maybe you can beta some of my stuff...

[BBALLGYPSY17]

Originally posted by Bella Figura
Carne, that is the sweetest thing you've ever said to me!!!

Alexis, I'm bustin' on Carne and he knows it. I always read his posts with interest...

don't grow up too much!!! however, you are now an adult, maybe you can beta some of my stuff...

LOL... I know

Check your Pm

[wondergirl9847]

Firstly, let me humbly accept the credit for inspiring you to post finally. Muse is not a role I had fulfilled before.

WHY can I not have wit like Carne?!

This thread rules.

That is all.