New album track listing (updated)

[Bandon]

Originally Posted by mylittledemon

what songs?

I can't wait to hear the response we're gonna get for this one. I'm thinking he will get to the point when he says something like, "Well if you don't think I'm telling you the truth, then fine I won't give you anymore information." Another manipulation ploy.

BTW...He said he only has track numbers and not song titles; well take a guess. He can at least guess the title of a song....but he won't......

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by Bandon

Whether or not he has really heard the CD (which I don't think he has), he is getting some perverse pleasure out of dangling vague hints.

Dave Stewart does the same thing though.

Michele

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by Bandon

I can't wait to hear the response we're gonna get for this one. I'm thinking he will get to the point when he says something like, "Well if you don't think I'm telling you the truth, then fine I won't give you anymore information." Another manipulation ploy.

BTW...He said he only has track numbers and not song titles; well take a guess. He can at least guess the title of a song....but he won't......

Yeah, he has nothing to offer. Even if he has heard the album, he's not going to give us any insight.

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Yeah, he has nothing to offer. Even if he has heard the album, he's not going to give us any insight.

I guess we'll know if one of the two mystery songs has the lyric "I used to think you were an angel"...

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by CADreaming

I guess we'll know if one of the two mystery songs has the lyric "I used to think you were an angel"...

the album will probably drop with Lady from the Mountain on it LOL

[CADreaming]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

the album will probably drop with Lady from the Mountain on it LOL

Oh, the suspense...

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by Bandon

I can't wait to hear the response we're gonna get for this one. I'm thinking he will get to the point when he says something like, "Well if you don't think I'm telling you the truth, then fine I won't give you anymore information." Another manipulation ploy.

BTW...He said he only has track numbers and not song titles; well take a guess. He can at least guess the title of a song....but he won't......

This is what reeks of troll to me. His latest posts have been saying he wasn't given song titles, so therefore, he doesn't know the song titles! Nor could he seem to guess at what they'd be called. But in an earlier post, he said he was specifically asked not to mention the song titles. So which is it? You don't know the song titles or you can't mention them? Oh it is always difficult to keep up with one's own lies.

[pwyll]

This is why I don't post here too often because so many people just want to attack.

I don't know FM77, but like Mikebise, I believe him. If I recall from reading a few of FM77's posts, he said he "heard" the album. He doesn't "have" it. He is also going from memory on what he may have heard only once.

I personally had Shangri La and Lindsey's CD's months before they came out, but the last thing I considered doing was posting anything about it here. If you talk about it and don't share anything you're a troll. There are so many people here that "expect" that the intire album should be uploaded here if you happen to have it or even slip that you do. Is that right?

One one more thing. The advance CD's have watermarks embedded in them. Their purpose is to track down the person who uploaded it. So if Warner/Reprise knew the cd or even tracks from it were uploaded on the ledge or anywhere for that matter, they could find out who leaked it just from the upload information.

Sharing is a personal thing and is solely up to that person. FM77 is being very generous with the information he has provided thus far. People should be thankful for that and not "expect" anything more.

My two cents.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by pwyll

This is why I don't post here too often because so many people just want to attack.

I don't know FM77, but like Mikebise, I believe him. If I recall from reading a few of FM77's posts, he said he "heard" the album. He doesn't "have" it. He is also going from memory on what he may have heard only once.

I personally had Shangri La and Lindsey's CD's months before they came out, but the last thing I considered doing was posting anything about it here. If you talk about it and don't share anything you're a troll. There are so many people here that "expect" that the intire album should be uploaded here if you happen to have it or even slip that you do. Is that right?

One one more thing. The advance CD's have watermarks embedded in them. Their purpose is to track down the person who uploaded it. So if Warner/Reprise knew the cd or even tracks from it were uploaded on the ledge or anywhere for that matter, they could find out who leaked it just from the upload information.

Sharing is a personal thing and is solely up to that person. FM77 is being very generous with the information he has provided thus far. People should be thankful for that and not "expect" anything more.

My two cents.

He hasn't provided any information at all. He sorta led us on a wild goose chase. Either put up or shut up. If you've heard the album but don't want to say a thing about fine. But don't lead people on wild lyric hunts and crap like that. He knew exactly what he was doing. Your post is manipulative in its own right. You have the priviledge of gettting music before hand, so you think you can sit back and judge. No. If you heard the album, but aren't going to say anything about it,why tell people you heard the album? This is a fansite. You know exactly what kind of questions you are going to get.

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by pwyll

This is why I don't post here too often because so many people just want to attack.

I don't know FM77, but like Mikebise, I believe him. If I recall from reading a few of FM77's posts, he said he "heard" the album. He doesn't "have" it. He is also going from memory on what he may have heard only once.

I personally had Shangri La and Lindsey's CD's months before they came out, but the last thing I considered doing was posting anything about it here. If you talk about it and don't share anything you're a troll. There are so many people here that "expect" that the intire album should be uploaded here if you happen to have it or even slip that you do. Is that right?

One one more thing. The advance CD's have watermarks embedded in them. Their purpose is to track down the person who uploaded it. So if Warner/Reprise knew the cd or even tracks from it were uploaded on the ledge or anywhere for that matter, they could find out who leaked it just from the upload information.

Sharing is a personal thing and is solely up to that person. FM77 is being very generous with the information he has provided thus far. People should be thankful for that and not "expect" anything more.

My two cents.

I completely understand your point of view, but nobody here is asking him to upload the tracks or upload anything for that matter. Nobody even asked him to inform us that he heard it, but he chose to do so. And he has continued to fuel the flames by posting replies that flaunt the fact that he has heard the album and knows more than he is willing to share. And he has be very generous with his information? What information? He has given us nothing. I understand if someone hears the album and doesn't want to share info. If so, don't post. Or if you just want to tell everyone you did hear it and it is amazing, then do so, but in one post. Simply say "I had the chance to hear the album because... blah blah blah... and it is amazing. I am not allowed to share any details, but you guys won't be let down... blah blah blah.." and end your post. However, if you continue to egg on the fact that you have heard the album, and you ask people to post lyrics to demos to see if you can help find out which one made it, yet at the end of the day you are unable to provide a single piece of new information, then I call bull****. FM77 needs to **** or get off the pot.

My two cents.

[pwyll]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

He hasn't provided any information at all. He sorta led us on a wild goose chase. Either put up or shut up. If you've heard the album but don't want to say a thing about fine. But don't lead people on wild lyric hunts and crap like that. He knew exactly what he was doing. Your post is manipulative in its own right. You have the priviledge of gettting music before hand, so you think you can sit back and judge. No. If you heard the album, but aren't going to say anything about it,why tell people you heard the album? This is a fansite. You know exactly what kind of questions you are going to get.

My case in point. Thank you.

[pwyll]

Originally Posted by APerfectLie

I completely understand your point of view, but nobody here is asking him to upload the tracks or upload anything for that matter. Nobody even asked him to inform us that he heard it, but he chose to do so. And he has continued to fuel the flames by posting replies that flaunt the fact that he has heard the album and knows more than he is willing to share. And he has be very generous with his information? What information? He has given us nothing. I understand if someone hears the album and doesn't want to share info. If so, don't post. Or if you just want to tell everyone you did hear it and it is amazing, then do so, but in one post. Simply say "I had the chance to hear the album because... blah blah blah... and it is amazing. I am not allowed to share any details, but you guys won't be let down... blah blah blah.." and end your post. However, if you continue to egg on the fact that you have heard the album, and you ask people to post lyrics to demos to see if you can help find out which one made it, yet at the end of the day you are unable to provide a single piece of new information, then I call bull****. FM77 needs to **** or get off the pot.

My two cents.

Another example. Case in point.

If you don't believe him or think he's bull****ting, just pass through his posts. Simply saying it is "an amazing album and we are all going to love it" doesn't bother me. He could equally have said it was a disappointment and a drag. Look forward to the release and enjoy what tidbits we have gotten. If we get any cool information in the meantime, that's just gravy.
Take it from someone who used to be obsessive and as thirsty for information as anybody, there are more important things in life to focus on.
Choose to believe him or not. But attacking isn't necessary.

I guess for a while I'll be considered somewhat of a troll because I gave my opinion.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by pwyll

Another example. Case in point.

If you don't believe him or think he's bull****ting, just pass through his posts. Simply saying it is "an amazing album and we are all going to love it" doesn't bother me. He could equally have said it was a disappointment and a drag. Look forward to the release and enjoy what tidbits we have gotten. If we get any cool information in the meantime, that's just gravy.
Take it from someone who used to be obsessive and as thirsty for information as anybody, there are more important things in life to focus on.
Choose to believe him or not. But attacking isn't necessary.

I guess for a while I'll be considered somewhat of a troll because I gave my opinion.

You lost your case.

[Blue Lamp 64]

With the tracks listing like that In You Dreams will be a beautiful album like all other Stevie albums she ever releast, I am looking forward to obtain the album when it's out in May 5th!!

[APerfectLie]

Originally Posted by pwyll

Another example. Case in point.

If you don't believe him or think he's bull****ting, just pass through his posts. Simply saying it is "an amazing album and we are all going to love it" doesn't bother me. He could equally have said it was a disappointment and a drag. Look forward to the release and enjoy what tidbits we have gotten. If we get any cool information in the meantime, that's just gravy.
Take it from someone who used to be obsessive and as thirsty for information as anybody, there are more important things in life to focus on.
Choose to believe him or not. But attacking isn't necessary.

I guess for a while I'll be considered somewhat of a troll because I gave my opinion.

I focus on way more things than The Ledge, but it is my place to get away from life and indulge in my Stevie obsession. Nothing is more irksome than seeing someone lead the whole board on a wild goose chase with no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Therefore, I have every right to call him out on his shenanigans. I honestly don't give a damn if he has heard the album or what he thinks about it, but I do wish he would stop making post after post with no information. He heard the album and isn't willing to share anything? Great, now let's move on, don't continue to post replies that insinuate that you know and may possibly share more than what you have already told us. If you do so, then yes, you are a troll. You are someone who is deliberately making posts to evoke a massive response. Especially if your posts contradict themselves. If he feels unjustly attacked in any way, he can simply refrain from posting. It wouldn't bother me a bit.