Tusk - looking back 25 years later

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
As much as I love LB, this alt take is an example of his over production quality!!!! SOTM is another IMO. Having said that, CM must have been satisfied with the album cut because she allowed it. So, LB is just one factor in the equation, etc.

Don't know strand, çause this "stripped downversion" sounds very lindsey-tuskera to me. I can imagine they did both because they wanted some pop-productions on it, too. Would be a nice question to chris and lindsey: which one did you want on the album, and which one do you prefer? (not necessarily the same answer.)



gerald

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by shackin'up
Don't know strand, çause this "stripped downversion" sounds very lindsey-tuskera to me. I can imagine they did both because they wanted some pop-productions on it, too. Would be a nice question to chris and lindsey: which one did you want on the album, and which one do you prefer? (not necessarily the same answer.)



gerald

I reread my post and I think I was unclear I meant to say this alt take is much better to me than the album cut. The album cut, while good if not great as well, is just too produced for me when compared to this alt take.

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by shackin'up
It's a friggin' anthem. I never gave this song songbird-quality. But in this version it has.

And that's why it didn't make the album. Lindsey told me that as pretty as this version is, it harkened back too much to the Rumours sound and was antithetical to what he was trying to achieve with Tusk.*









*imagined conversation

[shackin'up]

*imagined conversation [/B]

Oh, explaining your humour, that's strong...

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
I reread my post and I think I was unclear I meant to say this alt take is much better to me than the album cut. The album cut, while good if not great as well, is just too produced for me when compared to this alt take.

maybe you can express yourself better in french...

tu ne me pas pleurer...

pardon my french

[CarneVaca]

Originally posted by shackin'up
Oh, explaining your humour, that's strong...

Well, we were talking about Tusk, Fleetwood Mac's other albums and the general state of today's music over bowls of chili con carne.*







*This too is a fabrication.

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by strandinthewind
The album cut, while good if not great as well, is just too produced for me when compared to this alt take.

Yes i agree. I just compared them, and the pureness of this alt.take is unbeatable. She sounds so much more vulnerable. The ONLY thing that this version lacks compared to the albumcut is that fact that I know i'm not wrong is not immediately starting afterwards.


gerald

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by shackin'up
maybe you can express yourself better in french...

tu ne me pas pleurer...

pardon my french

d'accord mon amis!!!!

[strandinthewind]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Well, we were talking about Tusk, Fleetwood Mac's other albums and the general state of today's music over bowls of chili con carne.*







*This too is a fabrication.

becuase chili is never with carne

[face of glass]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
And that's why it didn't make the album. Lindsey told me that as pretty as this version is, it harkened back too much to the Rumours sound

I concur. It is essentially a repetition of “Songbird” atmosphere-wise, it has the same sense of bitterness in there. Still great of course.

I just like the album version more. In between the erotic dream of “Brown Eyes” and the life-affirming naivety of “I Know I’m Not Wrong” the alternate one just doesn’t fit.

Originally posted by strandinthewind
The album cut, while good if not great as well, is just too produced for me when compared to this alt take.

Opinion appreciated. I think the album version doesn’t really have that much production in it. The accompaniment sounds like it’s coming from a transistor radio from the other side of the room and Chris is right there in front of you singing and staring into nothingness through blank eyes. That’s more heart-breaking for me, especially when you consider the first verse. It’s like nothing can hurt the woman. She’s surrounded by this self-made wall that she’s built up for her protection. The backing track of that one has almost an ambient-like hum to it. It’s a sea of huge emptiness that only emphasizes the vulnerability of the vocal.

Ah, preferences, schreferences.

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by CarneVaca
Well, we were talking about Tusk, Fleetwood Mac's other albums and the general state of today's music over bowls of chili con carne.*

*This too is a fabrication.

wouldn't it be nice to do that once for real?

Well, we were talking about Tusk (...) over bowls of chili con carne.

...just to gather arguments for promoting and defending Fleetwood Mac towards the major part of our friends and collegues who like Eels, Masters of Reality, At the Drive In, Muse and White Stripes. On the Ledge we feel strong, but outside everybody thinks I dance around all day on "little lies".

[secondhandchain]

The album version of "Never make me cry" is great. It's got a other worldly quality that is so cool. Totally disagree.

[shackin'up]

I just downloaded a tusk-rehearsal-live version of I know I'm not wrong, which is quite a nice tune, , It's very unfinished but nice to hear ( could have been an Undertones-tune in this version). Did they put it in the set Back then? Never heard a live version before, and I was thrilled to hear this one. What do you all think about it? ( the guitarmess in the end could have been better. But I like the drive of the song...)


gerald

PS: it's on buckinghamnicks.net
Thanks a lot for posting it !

[face of glass]

Originally posted by shackin'up
What do you all think about it? ( the buitarmess in the end could have been better. But I like the drive of the song...)

The ending solo sounds like a sloppy mess but I guess he wasn't trying to polish it up yet. It's worth a listen though, if only to hear the funny LB & SN vocals replacing the original harp riff. LB's the naive one and SN is the cynical one here.

[shackin'up]

Originally posted by face of glass
The ending solo sounds like a sloppy mess but I guess he wasn't trying to polish it up yet. It's worth a listen though, if only to hear the funny LB & SN vocals replacing the original harp riff. LB's the naive one and SN is the cynical one here.

About the vocals: they're great, I agree on that! But the cynical/naive thing, isn't that projection? Yes I can "hear"that too, because I think in the content of this song: stevie could have voted this one out of the set This song could have given her the "go your own way-rejection-feel".

gerald